I'm Looking for Enchantments Like Painful Quandary to Harm My Opponents in EDH
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Posted on April 13, 2017, 7:11 p.m. by theindigoeffect
The aforesaid enchantments will be used for my superfriends deck, which encompasses all five colors.
I prefer enchantments because they combo with some of my other cards, but I'm open to alternatives: I even have some in my deck.
Just in case someone else might get some use out of this thread, here's a list of enchantments of I've acquired so far, even though they're more annoying than specifically harmful. I like the prison sub-theme that exists in my deck, but I'd like to ramp up the pain.
emrakulinsmugglers says... #3
do you have the oath's like Oath of Gideon in your deck?
April 13, 2017 7:21 p.m.
Angel's Trumpet, Eon Hub, Fatespinner, Lethal Vapors are all that come to mind.
April 13, 2017 7:22 p.m.
NeverCloud says... #5
No Mercy and Oppression, though oppression affects you too
April 13, 2017 7:35 p.m.
RoToFtHEgOdS says... #7
Archfiend of Depravity would fit in with your theme.
April 13, 2017 8:35 p.m.
theindigoeffect says... #8
I also love Kaervek the Merciless, but he's a little to easy to remove.
Loving Lethal Vapors and Eon Hub!
No Mercy is great: I have it in my deck.
If not for the fact that Archangel of Tithes was so easy to remove, I'd definitely put her in.
Oath of Gideon sounds cool, but I don't know if I would get enough bang for my buck with that card.
April 13, 2017 8:35 p.m.
theindigoeffect says... #9
Is there an enchantment equivalent to Archfiend of Depravity?
April 13, 2017 8:36 p.m.
RoToFtHEgOdS says... #10
I cant think of one at the moment. You might consider Grave Betrayal and Authority of the Consuls as well.
April 13, 2017 8:47 p.m.
theindigoeffect says... #11
Thanks, I really like Authority of the Consuls: it goes great with Frozen AEther.
April 13, 2017 10:37 p.m.
Matt_The_OGRE says... #12
Breathstealer's Crypt great against creature based decks, also can eventually give everyone perfect information.
April 13, 2017 10:54 p.m.
theindigoeffect says... #13
Breathstealer's Crypt is my favorite one so far: very similar to Painful Quandary, which I like.
April 13, 2017 11:22 p.m.
Manabarbs is one of my favorites. Not really the same as painful quandary but it can really mess up ramp strategies. Same with Ankh of Mishra and Zo-Zu the Punisher.
April 13, 2017 11:31 p.m.
Polluted Bonds, Bloodchief Ascension are both pretty similar to Painful Quandary. I think Spreading Plague, Wound Reflection, Overburden and Tainted AEther are all pretty mean and similar to other suggested cards.
April 14, 2017 12:30 a.m.
MagicalHacker says... #20
I don't see the thread connecting all those cards, because some are group slug, some are pillow fort, some are stax, sone are just good blockers, some are won cons, etc.
What type of enchantments are you looking for? What's the type of effect you want?
April 14, 2017 9:41 a.m.
theindigoeffect says... #21
I'm just trying to slow my opponents down and gradually reduce their life totals/resources, shifting their focus from attacking my planeswalkers to trying to remove the enchantments listed above. Ultimately, they are a diversion from the real threat.
Even a card like Winter Orb works great for this deck, since that card doesn't prevent the accumulation of loyalty counters.
April 14, 2017 11:30 a.m.
theindigoeffect says... #22
Also, blockers like Fog Bank are just fillers until I find something better.
However, Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger and Stormtide Leviathan are great at locking down the board, in spite of being easily removable creatures.
April 14, 2017 11:35 a.m.
MagicalHacker says... #23
"Slow down my opponents" is stax, "gradually reduce their life totals" is group slug, and "shifting their attention from attacking my planeswalkers" is sorta pillow fort.
Of those, I have a list of pillow fort cards (but some might not protect planeswalkers): MagicalHacker - List of All Pillow Fort Cards
As for stax and group slug, those typically make you a bigger target, so my recommendation is to avoid those.
April 14, 2017 11:41 a.m.
Just a tip, I wouldn't run Propaganda like cards since they only serve to make attacking your planeswalkers more attractive. Sphere of Safety, Norn's Annex and/or cards like Magus of the Moat/Peacekeeper are much better.
April 14, 2017 1:08 p.m.
theindigoeffect says... #25
I'm familiar with stax, group slug, pillow fort, and what their intended purposes are.
Cool, thanks for the tip about Propaganda: I'll cut Ghostly Prison and Collective Restraint, too.
April 14, 2017 1:32 p.m.
MagicalHacker says... #27
Oh I was just thinking out loud lol xD and hey no problem.
A fun little card that I enjoyed in my superfriends deck was Mystic Barrier, since it shut all but one opponent from attacking your planeswalkers, and if you choose the player to your left or right that has fewer creatures, youre in a solid place.
DeathChant17 says... #2
Not an enchantment, but Kaervek the Merciless does that, without them getting the choice.
April 13, 2017 7:20 p.m.