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| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander / EDH | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Duel Commander | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
| Legacy | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Limited | Legal |
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| Premodern | Legal |
| Quest Magic | Legal |
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Disruptive Student
Creature — Human Wizard
Tap: Counter target spell unless its controller pays {{1}}.
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rdean14 on Card creation challenge
3 years ago
Gideon!!!!!!!!
Gideon, Resurrected
Legendary Planeswalker - Gideon
When Gideon, Resurrected is put into a graveyard from anywhere, its owner shuffles it into their library.
+2:Until end of turn, Gideon Jura becomes a 6/6 Human Soldier creature that's still a planeswalker. Prevent all damage that would be dealt to him this turn.
-1: Until your next turn, during each combat you may destroy up to one attacking creature.
-5: Return target white creature in your graveyard to the battlefield tapped.
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I'd like to see a Chandra, but old card.
Jaya Ballard, Task Mage is her young, while Jaya Ballard and Jaya, Venerated Firemage.
I believe Teferi's progression was Disruptive Student, Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir, Teferi, Temporal Archmage, Teferi, Hero of Dominaria, Teferi, Time Raveler.
I'm pretty sure Chandra's Progression is Chandra, Novice Pyromancer, Chandra, Acolyte of Flame, Chandra, Roaring Flame, Chandra, Torch of Defiance, Chandra, Fire Artisan, Chandra, Heart of Fire.
Not 100% on the time lines of everyone, but pretty sure.
Colonel_Kink on None
3 years ago
also, just wanted to let anyone know, the Confiscate card and Disruptive Student card i picked as a reach.
cuz i see some of the banned cards as a reach.
plus people said that it is about teferi, well... what if some group didnt know that and got offended?
BOOM. they will claim that teferi is a racist depiction and will claim that anyone justifying it is racist.
thats my problem. if anyone can claim offense to something, and it gets banned, where does it stop?
Deadpoo111 on None
3 years ago
DISCLAIMER: THE FOLLOWING IS MY PERSONAL OPINION
Okay, so I've been doing a lot of reading on this topic and I think I've reformed my argument.
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I think the legitimate erasure of these cards from MTG's history is a bad move. Banning, while somewhat lazy, prevents the cards from seeing the light of day. What WotC has done is make sure no one sees those cards again. It's a dangerous precedent, and while I'm personally still glad these cards are gone, I don't think straight up erasing them from everywhere is a great sign. IMAGINE IF THEY DID THAT TO A SPECTER!
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I made an argument earlier about how Confiscate and Disruptive Student aren't in the same vein as these cards because they depict characters within the story that have backgrounds and traits that lend themselves directly to what is happening on the card. Some tried to use this argument to defend the other cards. This argument doesn't hold up. Who's the first hooded man in Invoke Prejudice? What's his name? Why does he want to invoke prejudice? Legends had a story based directly around the legendary creatures of the set (the comics in Legends case, god do I love me some Jeddit Ojanen) and this card has nothing to do with that story. The same goes for every card, although I suppose Jihad could be supported? I haven't read Arabian Nights so if there is mention of Jihad there, I suppose it could stand under "This is an actual part of the set and character's story"
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My (and again this is my opinion not fact) problem with Jihad, invoke predjudice, and crusade is that they step dangerously, almost fully into the real world. The crusades were real, they happened and there were years of bloodshed because of them. The OG crusade literally has European knights, so I don't think the "the card is innocent works" because the card was specifically made to represent the actual crusades. Jihad is harder for me to evaluate because of my limited knowledge of middle eastern culture, but again, it references something involving many deaths and bloodshed from our real world. I think Invoke Prejudice is guilty on each side of the art argument. If you think it depicts the Klan, then it should be excluded because the Klan is a real world symbol of racism and hate. If you think it represents the Spanish inquisition, it should be excluded because it depicts a real world event involving bloodshed and death.
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Cleanse is honestly a little on the fence for me personally>/i>. I don't agree with the argument that the color black in magic is representative of any race or ethnicity. The card is a little dicey with the name? The flavor text can be read either way since black (in magic) is a color filled with zombies, demons, nightmares, etc...
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There's been a lot of argument over what a slur is in relation to the G***y card. I don't feel like I have a say, but if there actually is a split of those who think the word is a slur and those who don't, wouldn't it be safer to just get rid of it? That's my only opinion on it. I avoid using the word anyway, simply out of respect, but I understand that others feel it is their heritage.
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The devils felt like a big stretch until I read some fascinating stuff about those pillars. I think (this is my opinion) the card itself once again references the real world too closely. Not really on the fence with this one, but if someone asked me to remove a card I thought was problematic to the game, I certainly wouldn't have thought of this one.
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The art on Imprison is just a little too close to the nail for me. I believe this card was fine to remove and that's it, basically the artwork.
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The final point I sort of want to leave on is that I feel getting rid of these cards was a good idea. However, I don't believe made the right choice in how to get rid of them. While I don't ,ind a little reference to Monty Python and Sharknado here and there, I do mind references to the inquisition or klan.
dingusdingo on None
3 years ago
The thread that keeps on giving
Why does it matter if they're banned if you can use them for kitchen table?
Sanctioned events exist where these cards might see play, especially Invoke Prejudice. Mono blue commander decks love the card as a powerful hoser that gives lots of devotion. This ranged from local EDH night at your shop to Commandfest. The list of officially sanctioned cards is pretty important in a card game.
Your post is a logical fallacy based on anecdotal evidence. Well I never saw any racism after MLK died why are we protesting? It doesn't matter if you have personally seen the cards. If I have seen the cards, does that change the legitimacy of my argument for or against their banning? No, not at all. You should debate based on the merit of the cards themselves.
The bannings DO impact the game, and even though Crusade has a functional reprint, decks can now only run 1 copy of the effect instead of 2. I have covered this already, but if you need something more thorough I'm happy to write you a blog post.
Your defense of Confiscate and Disruptive Student could easily be appropriated to defend the banned cards. Invoke Prejudice just shows a scene from Magic's in game history :^) Pradesh Gypsies are not the ethnic group but the other definition "person who wanders". :^) While we can sit here and volley these justifications back and forth all day, the larger point is that these cards and the art are what people construe them to be.
I am an educator and knowledgeable on the public schooling system, especially in America. History has been whitewashed to promote American imperialism, and and Common Core in America leaves quite a bit off the treatment of people of color in North and South America. Even if the history of race relations was properly documented in public school, supplementing with a variety of media shouldn't be frowned upon. Please don't use "We learned about race in school, so why is it in magic cards/tv/video games/etc." because it stifles learning and conversation
Lastly, saying that someone is "whining their $400 card got banned" is trivializing the issue. The players are paying for the mistake of Wizards from their own wallet. Please justify to me why players should be eating the monetary mistake of Wizards.
Thank you for the information about how Invoke Prejudice was made. This certainly helps us with evaluating the context of the card at the time, and now.
I agree, people aren't focusing on the issue of preservation and history and the long term impacts of trying to memory-hole the mistakes. There is more at stake than 7 cards which see fringe play, and people are equating the need for equity with the need to remove the records of what happened in the past.
I also agree that as soon as an inch is given, a mile will be taken. This is one of the reasons I am staunchly against these bannings. If the cards truly present a problem, there are solutions that involve Wizards spending time and money to correct them.
This is twice you've been called out for assuming ignorance with someone you're talking to. I'd still like to see even an acknowledgement of the racist things you've said in this thread, if not an apology and a pledge to do better on top. You've commented since then, so clearly you've read it. Do you see the hypocrisy when you're arguing for systemic changes for racial sensitivity when you choose not to acknowledge your own mistakes? Seriously, check yourself. I know you're a moderator on TappedOut, so maybe I should go to the person above you for intervention on your behalf since you can't act appropriately.
Also I agree with Toolmaster again, the coincidences around Invoke Prejudice do not show racist intent. You're a lawyer, right? How do you not understand that 4 pieces of circumstantial evidence isn't enough to hang the guilty? Especially when those 4 pieces of circumstantial evidence involve different people making the choices, with years inbetween (the card being made against gathered ID being assigned), and the artist on record speaking explicitly about the art and art direction.
Silencing voices on discussion is never a win. I understand what you're getting at, but the issue at hand is "Are the cards racist enough to warrant a ban?", so talking about what is and isn't racist is quite on topic. You don't have to be personally impacted by police brutality to speak on the issue.
Deadpoo111 on None
3 years ago
Also, real quick, someone above said Confiscate with barrin taking a toy from Teferi was bannable, no, Teferi is a mischievous boi and Barrin is taking away what is probably a cheeky prank. That's not a historical reference to enslavement, it's a scene from Magic's in-game story. The same applies to Disruptive Student because that card, again, is teferi, who is a troublesome student
Colonel_Kink on None
3 years ago
have some more
Confiscate cringy here
Reparations big one here
Eye for an Eye racially insensitive to muslims?
Disruptive Student ... this one i can see being banned.
rdean14 on Card creation challenge
4 years ago
Jhyalli, Gavel of Paludaria
Legendary Creature - Zombie Dragon
Flying, Trample, Infect
At the beginning of your combat phase, you may put a -1/-1 counter on any number of creatures you control, then sacrifice all creatures you control without a -1/-1 counter on them.
: Target creature you control gains Undying.
: Target creature you control gains Persist.
6/3
I'd like a legendary creature made generic, like before they were notable:
Akki Lavarunner Flip, Kitsune Mystic Flip, Cunning Bandit Flip, Budoka Pupil Flip, Bushi Tenderfoot Flip, Callow Jushi Flip, Hired Muscle Flip, etc. but not necessarily a transforming card. Disruptive Student and Hanweir, the Writhing Township from Hanweir Battlements+Hanweir Garrison are also cool possibilities, any other ideas I'm eager to see!
4to16characters on
4 years ago
Benthehen333 - Absolutely! Not a problem. Excited to see the "Still Budget Upgrade List" for sure! I'm hoping to branch out and get more fun "Budget" decks after I made my first EDH Deck modeled after a Voltron Kozilek, the Great Distortion . The deck is a little strong for my meta as well, with the exception of two other not budget decks. If you care to see it: Koz, Colorless EDH Deck
To answer your question I looked at The Tax Man Cometh by KayneMarco and I would prefer you didn't by Molesto-the-Egregious as references: Disruptive Student , Vodalian Mage , Disruptive Pitmage , Turn Aside , Approach of the Second Sun , Kasmina, Enigmatic Mentor , Dovin, Hand of Control , God-Pharaoh's Statue , Monastery Siege , War Tax , Lavinia, Azorius Renegade , Daxos of Meletis , Baird, Steward of Argive , Aven Mindcensor , Teyo, the Shieldmage , The Wanderer , Time Wipe , Foresee , Azor's Elocutors , and Marble Diamond are several Non-Land Sub $1 cards I saw in there as well. The list goes on, for sure. I didn't look into it beyond this but any W/U or Colorless card that let's you draw when an opponent draws would be fantastic. Mind's Eye would be a good Sub $5 card I know of, if there were to be upgrades in that deck.
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