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Return two target cards from your graveyard to your hand. Exile Restock.
4 months ago
Thank you so much for your feedback! It is all really great perspective on many cards I’ve thought about or haven’t even considered for the deck.
I too, like Sylvan Advocate and have yet to really punch anyone in the face with his +2+2 land pump but I cannot wait. Seems like overall great value, especially as a druid.
The feedback i probably appreciate the most is what you’ve said about Craterhoof Behemoth and Decimator of the Provinces . It’s, for lack of a better word, comforting to hear that they aren’t needed for a few reasons... 1) because it’s a relatively “easy” and common way for decks like this to win like and it’s cool to not have to depend on that as much. I may still keep End-Raze Forerunners in as the only creature to supply that kind of ability.
I will have to play some games with Paradox Engine before I decide to take it out. I hear you about the how big of a target it is but I feel like it’s one of those cards that can be that card—a gamechanger. Especially with the recursion I have in Restock and Revive to have it get some second chances.
I really like your point about Helix Pinnacle . It seems really really awesome, but you’re right, how practical is it really? Probably not very often to not at all.
I also hear you on the druids... I actually have Woodfall Primus , Treefolk Harbinger and Voyaging Satyr floating around and I will put them in for sure. I like what they can bring to the table. I still need to get my hands on Priest of Titania .
And wow, I also have Throne of the God-Pharaoh and that kind of synergy never clicked in my head before. So thank you! I’m also going to try that one out.
I will also get my hands on Benefactor's Draught and Mobilize . I really like those suggestions as well as taking out Restock for Wildest Dreams . Roar of Challenge over Bloodscent makes complete sense to me as well, as does Harmonize over shapers.
Thanks so much for the comment!
4 months ago
First of all, I like the animated lands subtheme! Sylvan Advocate is spicy. Being able to get wrath'd only to swing out with your lands next turn is the type of EDH we play for.
Win Cons: I saw that you want a Craterhoof Behemoth or Decimator of Provinces, but you don't need either! Most of your mana comes from dorks. If you tap down your team to cast a Craterhoof, you can't swing with your pumped Druids. As a general rule, never do fair things with Paradox Engine . If you aren't comboing out with it immediately, expect it to eat a Naturalize before next turn. Helix Pinnacle is another trap card. Without infinte mana, it's a painfully slow wincon. Even if you generate 12+ mana a turn, that's still an 8 turn clock, assuming no one can get rid of Pinnacle or wrath your mana production away. I even played it with Quest for Renewal and it's still too slow. A few overruns is all you need (Kamahl, Triumph of the Hordes, Pathbreaker Ibex, etc.) If all else fails, you can beat down with a big trampler by itself.
Druids: Don't play bad Druids for the sake of staying on theme. There are 179 Druids in Magic at time of writing, and I believe that only 25-30 of them are worth considering. At least trim some of the more niche ones to make room for 1cmc dorks that tap for . If you want to go big, you need reliable mana, not just neat synergies on turn 6. You also should add in the swiss army knife that is Treefolk Harbinger . It finds lands, Lignify , or Woodfall Primus depending on what you need. Priest of Titania is powerhouse, as is Voyaging Satyr to untap a Nykthos or flipped Growing Rites of Itlimoc.
Other Options: If you like Primal Order, Throne of the God-Pharaoh is another incremental damage source. Benefactor's Draught is the second best "doubler" after Vitalize, because it has a secondary mode of drawing a ton of cards on an opponent's turn for 2 mana. That card is a few dollars now, but Mobilize is a decent budget replacement. Wildest Dreams is a strict upgrade over Restock . Bloodscent is not good but can be cheaply replaced by Declare Dominance or Roar of Challenge . Harmonize is great as far as monogreen draw goes, and will on average draw you more cards than Shaper's Sanctuary.
I've been playing Seton for a few years now so feel free to message me with any other questions. I could talk about this deck for hours. I sometimes do.
5 months ago
Sandwurm Convergence would be useful late-game. Brooding Saurian might be a good utility piece. Homeward Path is better but $$. Verdurous Gearhulk maybe? Rhonas the Indomitable and Predator Ooze might make good blockers.
8 months ago
10 months ago
Seraph of the Sword Banisher Priest Citadel Siege Condemn Oblation Crib Swap Eternal Witness Wildest Dreams Restock Regrowth Terastodon Yavimaya Elder Sakura-Tribe Elder Thraben Inspector Woodfall Primus
1 year ago
Well, Green secretly has some of the best graveyard recursion. We all know the glory of Eternal Witness and Reclaim. There is also Restock and some others. I am particularly fond of Wildest Dreams since ramping into a big X value is often easily achieved and it's a cheap card.
It's hard to devote deck space to such "boring" utility though.
1 year ago
From your description in the EDH forum thread it sounds like your group isn't playing enough mass disruption to break up board states. Your commander is indestructible, less than a fifth of your deck is creatures and only half of them really matter beyond ETBs, you're set up to play wrath heavy. Wrath of God, Austere Command, Winds of Rath, Day of Judgment, and Rout are crazy efficient in multiplayer. In you have enough answers to spot-exile/disenchant problem targets that you don't need to crack yourself with more broad/powerful wipes like Hour of Devastation or Hallowed Burial.
I know wraths are scary when you're coming from another format, but this is multiplayer against decks built to go long and you control when/if you play them. Quarantine Field would cost to hit a single target for each of 3 players, Wrath hits every single one of their creatures for half that and gets around shroud/hexproof.
Beyond that, here's some suggestions for threats and cuts. There's a lot so I'll hold back on justifying them unless asked.
- Summer Bloom < Explore - A card like this needs to replace itself with a draw. Chance of Summer Bloom being a dead/inefficient draw at any given point in the game is too high
- Zendikar Resurgent < Mirari's Wake - You don't have many cast triggers for creatures, tokens will benefit from the buff
- Awakening < Brave the Sands / Radiant Destiny / Sight of the Scalelords - Better that your creatures just have vigilance than giving everyone on the table a free Seedborn Muse
- Oath of the Ancient Wood < Ancestral Mask / Ethereal Armor
- Restock < Greenwarden of Murasa / Eternal Witness / Praetor's Counsel
- Rampant Growth < Kodama's Reach / Cultivate / Nature's Lore / Three Visits - The first two are coveted for giving you two cards for one, if you wanna stay with the lower CMC the latter two can hit Savannah, Canopy Vista, or Temple Garden if you ever pick one up
- Nyx-Fleece Ram
- Helix Pinnacle - Cute, but a complete dead draw in terms of impact on board state, and impotent in a vacuum. You can win for less than = 101, and yes that includes an optimal situation with mana doubles and effects like Awakening
- Kismet / Blind Obedience - You've said they're filler, which they pretty much are if you aren't building around them
- Words of Wilding / Words of Worship - You're way too concerned about decking out. If the cards you're drawing are less helpful than a 2/2 or 5 life you need to cut those cards
That's a lot of words, I hope you find some of them helpful!
1 year ago
So sorry but golgari is not my expertise but I do know that things like Ramunap Excavator will help you in the long run and plus if you end up sacrificing a good land you can use Restock to get it back. And one more thing for card draw can be Howling Mine if you still need some.
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