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Great Unclean One
Creature — Demon
Reverberating Summons — At the beginning of your end step, each opponent loses 2 life. Then for each opponent who has less life than you, create a 1/3 black Demon creature token named Plaguebearer of Nurgle.
A_Strangled_Catfish on
Empty Husks of a Blackened Throne
5 months ago
Hello there. Thank you so much for your long list of suggestions, and no this is not spam. I deckcycled it for this exact purpose. Your knowledge of 5 being Ayara's second casting never even occurred to me which is crazy. Now that two people have suggested a Pitiless Plunderer, I'll probably put it on the next order. When I made the deck, this card was upwards of 20, and not all reprints I can keep up with.
Regarding 5-drops. Right now I'm thinking of cutting Banshee of the Dread Choir, Drana, Kalastria Bloodchief, Sauron, the Necromancer, Rescue from the Underworld, Syr Konrad, the Grim, and Open the Graves. Gray Merchant of Asphodel has won me too many games and I love him too much. Girder Goons is not 5 mana, because of blitz, and the double draw double ping has been really nice. Great Unclean One has also won me games (and for some reason is now the most expensive card in the deck tied with Lord Skitter, Sewer King?) Ogre Slumlord has been pretty good, especially since I can start pinging on opponent turns if any of their nontokens die. And I haven't seen Witch of the Moors in action enough to think about cutting it.
Open the Graves is the one I am most hesitant about but Ghoulish Procession looks like a good, cheaper alternative. Same with Syr Konrad, the Grim to Marionette Apprentice.
Decree of Pain is my only board wipe in this deck right now and I want at least one.
I like the addition of Ophiomancer especially since the price has plummeted, which i did not know.
Whenever I update decks, I always look at the cards I own, so I'm thinking a Xathrid Necromancer could fit in here pretty well, as well as Victimize as an alternative to Rescue from the Underworld. I also was thinking about cards like Josu Vess, Lich Knight, Grima Wormtongue, Beamsaw Prospector, Reassembling Skeleton, and maybe something like Starving Revenant or First-Sphere Gargantua as a replacement for Phyrexian Gargantua. Was also looking at Haunt of the Dead Marshes and Curse of Disturbance, though I'm not sure about the curse in a ping deck lol.
These are just my original thoughts. I'd love to hear what you think clayperce. I really enjoy this deck and want to keep working within it until I'm super happy with it.
P.S. Mortuary Mire has been really good but im down to switch out some other tap lands. I know I didn't touch on that much in this response.
ThassaUpYo@ssa on
Be'Elz A'Boot
2 years ago
I do like MImic Vat, though as I mentioned before it's super difficult to make a slot. I'm honestly a huge fan of Great Unclean One. I had a game the other night where I had him, Bloodletter of Aclazotz, and Phyrexian Metamorph out (as a copy of Great Unclean One) - that was a pretty solid board even without Be'Lakor, the Dark Master out. Tough decision because MImic Vat grants some security and a little bit of control...
Profet93 on
Be'Elz A'Boot
2 years ago
I had another thought, have you considered adding an instant that exiles your creature and returns it back to the battlefield such as Teferi's Time Twist? While white usually capitalizes those types of effects, black has something like Malakir Rebirth Flip which is also a land. This allows provides synergy with your commander and about 7 other creatures. If mystic remora doesn't end up working for you, you could swap that out or even potentially Great Unclean One.
EDIT: Perhaps a MImic Vat to abuse ETB's, mess with opposing GY and overall fun with function.
xunoy on
From hell with love
3 years ago
first deck of commander i ever had in my life i got some proxys like Mana Crypt and others ehh i tried to make it demon tribal and exploit the blue color to make copies, this is the deck i have irl and i know i need Sakashima of a Thousand Faces butt i dont have it ehhh the best way to describe this deck is try to dont die by your own card effects and pray to chaos that u will Spark Double into anything is a really powerhouse if can copy Be'Lakor, the Dark Master also Master of Cruelty for some extra spicy stuff. i also named Great Unclean One "dirty dan" and Phantasmal Image "pin head" becouse they are best friends they work very good together. have fun i need some enchantment remobal sorry for the bad typing its 5am here and im very tired xoxo
Gleeock on Creatures that do Damage Over …
3 years ago
I forgot about Great Unclean One love that one
griffstick on Creatures that do Damage Over …
3 years ago
Crow_Umbra on
Mishra's Relentless Horde
3 years ago
I'm glad you liked the suggestions, Pheardemons. Lol yeah "Professional Face-Breaker is budget Tymna the Weaver if you squint hard enough" is my dumb joke. They have some similarities in how both reward you for spreading attacks out.
Brazen Cannonade is something I've had on my consideration lsit for my Isshin, Two Heavens as One deck, which is also very token aggro focused. I similarly had Kardur in considration at one point, but opted to leave him out of my list due to lack of blink or reanimation to reuse. Kardur does smack though with the right support. I have a Kardur deck in my meta that "plays for 2nd place", either finishes 2nd or winning because we have a hard time attacking them.
I wouldn't say that Hammer of Purphoros is a strictly better option for this deck. I'm not a fan of how Hammer is vulnerable to both artifact and enchantment removal. I personally don't want to pay 3 mana & trade a land for 1 3/3 creature at a time. For what it's worth, I did have Hammer of Purphoros in the 99 over Fervor for the Shanid, Sleepers' Scourge deck I was brewing, but mostly because it's Legendary.
War Cadence is a cool one. One of my friends suggested it to me a while ago and pointed out its political options to help someone else push attacks through on their turn.
I agree with you on Great Unclean One over Kazuul. I like that Great Unclean One has a beginning of End Step trigger, so you get the benefit immediately, whereas with Kazuul you may not get tokens. I've flip-flopped on Kazuul for my Isshin deck, but omitted it for not being proactive.
As for suggested cuts.... I find myself suggesting cuts less these days, as I think people know their own preferences and metas best. More generally speaking, I usually try to find cuts in:
- Top heavy or mana intensive cards that don't give great payouts for the activation costs involved.
- Cards that have you jumping through hoops for a pay-off. I pointed out Anger as one, but I can see why would want to keep it.
- I usually compare cards at similar CMCs as a swap, or perhaps cards that are 1-2 cmc more expensive to help bring my curve down a bit.
- Maybe you could cut a planeswalker or two, depending on if any under-perform for you.
I like your thoughtful response! You had me thinking first thing in the morning lol.
Pheardemons on
Mishra's Relentless Horde
3 years ago
Crow-Umbra - First off thank you very much for the comment, as well as looking back through old comments to see if things have already been mentioned. Definitely appreciated when someone is willing to do that.
Second, not sure if you meant that joke to be as funny as it was, but I definitely laughed loud enough where people were looking at me haha. Honestly, I truly believed I had Professional Face-Breaker in the deck. Not sure what kind of dream that was, or maybe I meant to put him in and forgot. I remember setting it aside to try and make the cut. He's not even in the maybeboard. Not sure what happened there.
Brazen Cannonade is a thought. I think I remember considering it but I believe I went with Kardur, Doomscourge instead since it was a body that can attack. "Hoping" that the creature dies isn't the most efficient strategy but not one to completely take out of the running. It is a thought thank you.
Fervor may not completely be out of the running but it isn't a priority. I get your meaning on the less steps than Anger, but also it is one of those cards that I could say "enter combat" and they respond by destroying it. I feel like the extra loops with Anger makes it a little better since it is harder to get rid of (in theory). Question though, in your deck as well as here, isn't Hammer of Purphoros strictly better? It gives the options of making creatures. Thought for both of us.
Goblin War Drums is not a bad thought, but I feel like I might choose War Cadence over it. I've actually been trying to find a place to put War Cadence in the deck as of recently.
Inquisitorial Rosette I didn't know existed; I like it though. That is definitely a thought. Captain Lannery Storm is one I put behind Professional Face-Breaker but you're probably right. They both deserve a spot for the ramp since the deck is a little higher on the CMC cost. Zhentarim Bandit I think is behind both of them so I'm not sure I'll consider that right now.
With these thoughts, what do you suggest I take out for Professional Face-Breaker, War Cadence, Captain Lannery Storm, and Inquisitorial Rosette?
Of note, I have been debating on switching out Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs with Great Unclean One since most people simply won't attack me with Kazuul out, wait until the token doesn't affect their attack, or he'll just bait a kill spell. Grenzo, Havoc Raiser is also on the maybelist. He's there for me to get around infinite life. Taking their cards isn't bad either, but at least there is an option. I haven't playtested this deck enough to gauge whether he's a wasted spot or not.
