Trostani's Token Buddies

Commander / EDH* Skyfolk

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Card vs Card —May 8, 2013

So I've been having some trouble with cards I'm considering for Trostani.

Mainly I can't decide between running Sun Titan and Rest in Peace. One one hand, there are 17 non-land targets + the 36 lands I have that Titan can bring back, but on the other hand Rest in Peace forces graveyard focused decks to slow down and use up a removal spell. As you can see, it's a tough choice, and I don't wanna run both, because they make each other into dead draws.

Another card I want to include,especially if Sun Titan gets in, is Rune-Tail, Kitsune Ascendant  Flip. I'm not sure what cards to cut for it at all though, but Lightning Greaves and Awakening Zone are on the short list. I've also been trying to wedge Spawnwrithe into the deck.

Any advice?

card:Nomads' Assembly and Raise the Alarm are two great token producers. Also, Intangible Virtue

February 7, 2013 6:22 a.m.

Skyfolk says... #2

Nomads' Assembly suffers heavily from being useless a lot of the time. Raise the Alarm is terrible in EDH, why would anybody play a one-shot spell that makes only 2 1/1 tokens in a format full of one-ofs? As for intangible Virtue, I thought about it, but I also have many creatures that are not tokens so I want my anthem effects to benefit my whole army. Thanks for the suggestions, but I'm not so much a casual player that I play bad cards.

February 7, 2013 6:27 a.m.

Elspeth Tirel , Restoration Angel to blink your ETB token producers, and Autochthon Wurm with all your creatures.

Also, YES to Doubling Season . It and Parallel Lives work great in token decks.

I realize you don't necessarily need them, but you could always swap a Forest and Plains for Ancient Den and Tree of Tales .

February 7, 2013 8:42 a.m.

Skyfolk says... #4

Eslpeth Tirel is flat out too pricey, I'm already buying a Judge Foil Doubling Season, and I wanna minimize on small token creation. Autocthon Wurm is a do-nothing. He's just a big dude that turns sideways, and drawing him early game is frustrating. Artifact lands are pointless, they get hit by things like Vandalblast , so why would I run them?

February 7, 2013 12:43 p.m.
February 7, 2013 1:48 p.m.

Skyfolk says... #6

Eh... Not as good as you might think. There are so many ways to get around it that it's really not worth it. It's only good about 30% of the time.

February 7, 2013 1:53 p.m.

dethjakal says... #7

Emeria Angel ? Can make some little flutterers

February 7, 2013 4:29 p.m.

Skyfolk says... #8

I had thought about Emeria Angel, but then I realized that Master of the Wild Hunt would be better, then I realized I had better option altogether. Good suggestion though, just not for Trostani.

February 7, 2013 4:40 p.m.

lukemwillis says... #9

How do you feel about Aura Shards ? You could probably do away with Oblivion Ring for it, if that's your thing. Also, I don't think Ant Queen is doing enough for you. Hornet Queen is better here, imho. I think you could probably cut card:Coursers' Accord to make room for the cards you're wanting to put in (all of which are better for you). Other than that, I might suggest Avacyn, Angel of Hope , but she is fairly spendy right now. Nice deck building +1

February 7, 2013 6:28 p.m.

Skyfolk says... #10

I'm gonna be getting an Aura Shards soon, I used to have one but it poofed, so I'm using a placeholder now. I like Ant Queen over Hornet Queen because Ant Queen is a mana sink, but if I can get ahold of a Hornet Queen I'll try it out.

I think I planned to cut Accord for Phyrexian Processor, but I'm not so sure, as it has potential to give me a whole lot more than 6 power.

As for Avacyn, yeah I'm not gonna go for her, I already have a lot of huge things and while she is good, I have other things to purchase and trade for. All in all, some good suggestions. Of course my list won't be changing until I actually get the cards.

February 7, 2013 7:02 p.m.

dethjakal says... #11

I like Living Hive over Ant Queen

February 8, 2013 6:56 a.m.

Skyfolk says... #12

I don't like Living Hive over anything. Usually when it connects it's only hitting for 3-2 damage. So I get 3-2 insects per turn, but it comes out later than Ant Queen. It's also not as good as Adephage in Trostani, because I'd much rather populate one huge dude, than one tiny dude.

February 8, 2013 11:14 a.m.

lukemwillis says... #13

I would go ahead and cut card:Coursers' Accord for Phyrexian Processor as you planned. Accord has the potential to give you quite a bit of power, but if you're sitting on 8 mana with Processor in hand and Trostani in play, you can play it and pay down to 1 life (or more if you're afraid of people with open mana) then activate it that turn and get all your life back. Sitting on 11 mana? Populate that token with Trostani to nearly double your life total.

February 8, 2013 2:03 p.m.

Skyfolk says... #14

Yeah, I think I'm gonna drop Accord instead of Oblivion Ring, because removal is nice to have. I already know I was putting Processor in, that's why it's in the pending list.

February 8, 2013 2:24 p.m.

Skyfolk says... #16

Decided to drop Mentor of the Meek instead of Oblivion Ring. Mentor wasn't doing much. (List will not be updated until I actually get the cards.)

February 9, 2013 12:40 a.m.

DustyNaval says... #17

February 10, 2013 4:37 a.m.

Skyfolk says... #18

The "No"s:

Darien - Only good if you have soul sisters

Kitchen Finks - Why would I play it in a token-focused deck?

Kamahl - Nah

The "Maybe"s:

Privileged Position - I've thought about it, but the deck is pretty tight, not sure what to remove

Sylvan Library - Ditto for the library

Elesh - Also a maybe. I have a LOT of huge cards as is, why should I drop money on yet another huge thing without a slot?

Thanks for the +1 though.

February 10, 2013 12:36 p.m.

Skyfolk says... #19

Just ordered the rest of the deck, will update list as soon as I know I'm getting my cards.

February 11, 2013 3:39 p.m.

babyshac says... #20

February 13, 2013 12:14 p.m.

Skyfolk says... #21

Okay there's a lot wrong with those.

Call - Why? I get ONE 3/3 token in EDH that does nothing, doesn't even enter attacking, ew.

Beacon - This isn't really a lifegain deck, Trostani is all the lifegain I need.

Evolution - So a two-shot doubling season? No thanks.

Opalescence - Why would I ever want my enchants destroyed by a creature sweeper?

Supply/Demand - I don't think you know the rules of EDH very well.

February 13, 2013 12:19 p.m.

Goody says... #22

You could try Bear Umbra and Alpha Authority to protect your creatures a bit and give you rather nice effects. I like the deck though

February 13, 2013 2:04 p.m.

Skyfolk says... #23

Thanks, but auras in a token deck tend to be useless. Putting an aura on one 4/4 or 8/8 doesn't really do anything, and if I wanted to have mana open for instants and such I'd just find a place for Seedborn Muse

February 13, 2013 2:16 p.m.

babyshac says... #24

:) not really no - I see Demand is illegal.

What about Sigil of the Empty Throne you have quite a few enchantments...

Exploration ??

February 13, 2013 3:46 p.m.

Skyfolk says... #25

Exploration is bleh, it doesn't really do as much as Oracle of Mul Daya, and I used to have Sigil, but dropped in favour of more reliable token generation. I found myself holding onto enchantments instead of just playing them and it bogged down the deck. Thanks for the suggestions though.

As for Supply/Demand being illegal, it's because the whole card's colour identity is White/Blue/Green.

February 13, 2013 3:50 p.m.