Can I stifle a Sanguine Bond + Exquisite Blood infinity-trigger

Asked by ------ 8 years ago

Given I have Sanguine Bond and Exquisite Blood on my field, then I play something like a Radiant Fountain to gain life.

Now usually the infinite trigger would enforce the game to be a tie/draw.

But now I have Stifle or sth. similar in my hand and want to cancel the 20th trigger of either Bond or Blood.

Can I actually do this?

So the enchantments soak away like 40 or 80 life and I gain 40 or 80 life, then win the game?

Because then I would just go like game 1-4 ties, game 5 stifle on the trigger stack, easy pro tour. XD

FancyTuesday says... #1

While Sanguine Bond / Exquisite Blood do create an infinite loop, every time a trigger goes on the stack there's a round of priority where the game checks state based actions. If a player is at 0 or less life when that happens, they lose the game. Once all other players have lost, you've won. The game does not go to a draw/tie unless an effect is preventing them from losing the game, like Platinum Angel.

But yes, you can Stifle one of the triggers and end the loop.

September 19, 2015 5:18 p.m.

------ says... #2

Well, I was beeing told that the infinite loop causes the game to be a draw.

So I looked it up:

716.4. If a loop contains only mandatory actions, the game is a draw.

I don't intend to waste your time, but I want this one cleared up rightly.

Still, beeing able to stifle a trigger, thus endling the loop, letting 20 triggers resolve and winning the game is good enough.

September 20, 2015 3:40 p.m.

FancyTuesday says... Accepted answer #3

That is only the case if, after calculating the outcome of the loop repeated as a shortcut, the game-state does not change and the loop must be repeated. An example would be 1 Faceless Butcher exiling another Faceless Butcher being hit by a 3rd Faceless butcher.

That is not the case with Exquisite Blood / Sanguine Bond, which creates a loop of triggers that, once followed, SBAs will remove players with 0 life or less from the game between trigger resolutions. It's not truly an infinite loop unless something is preventing them from losing the game, because once they're out of the game they're no longer legal targets.

September 20, 2015 4:09 p.m.

------ says... #4

Ah ok, that makes sense. Thanks so far.

September 20, 2015 4:37 p.m.

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