If I have multiple cards that increase the amount of cards I draw, do they all trigger at the same time?

Asked by mrfr1day 8 years ago

For example if I have Sphinx's Tutelage, Monastery Siege set to khans, Dictate of Kruphix, and the recently spoiled mythic rare artifact that allows me to draw two cards every time I draw a card(with the exception of my first draw of my turn) do they all trigger at once or separately? Can someone explain to me how these trigger if I have all of them on the field at once?

Boza says... #1

Tutelage has an activated ability - for the cost of 5U, you draw a card and discard a card. You can do this any time you have priority (when you can cast an instant).

Monastery siege has an ability in your draw step. The first that happens in every draw step is that the active player draws a card. This part of the draw step happens automatically - nobody has priority during that time and nobody can do anything to prevent that (i mean by casting a spell, an Omen Machine will still prevent any draws, for example).

Only after that is done do the abilities that trigger in the beginning of the draw step go on the stack. In this case, you will draw your card for the turn and then Monastery Siege's effect will trigger and you will draw a card and discard one, similar to Sphinx Tutelage.

Dictate is identical in workings as Monastery siege, but it works for both players, so it triggers every draw step.

June 25, 2015 1:16 p.m.

mrfr1day says... #2

How does all three work with the artifact and the mill effect of Sphinx's Tutelage?

June 25, 2015 1:18 p.m.

Boza says... #3

ok, forgot that part. This is a bit complicated, but lets go.

Lets say you had 9 mana and those 3 cards in your hand and you played them all your last turn. Now, on your turn, you draw your card for the turn. After that, 3 effects go on the stack at the same time:

  • The Tutelage (you drew a card)
  • The Siege
  • The Dictate

You stack the triggers however you want, but the end result will the same. Lets say you choose the siege trigger to resolve first, then the dictate one, then the tutelage.

You resolve the Siege trigger. You draw and discard a card. This triggers Tutelage once more. This goes on top of all the triggers already on the stack and resolves before them.

After that, the Dictate trigger resolves. You draw a card and trigger tutelage once more. This goes on top of all the triggers already on the stack and resolves before them.

Finally, the very first Tutelage trigger resolves. If nothing else happens that step (like the opponent conceding from trigger overload), you continue with your main phase.

Sidenote: If you like those interactions, play some EDH with Nekusar, the Mindrazer :)

June 25, 2015 1:29 p.m.

TheRedMage says... Accepted answer #4

They all work separately, and most of them don't work the same way either.

  • Alhammaret's Archive doesn't trigger, ever. Rather, it's ability is a replacement effect that substitutes all your draws (except the first one every turn) with a double draw. Let's see what happens if you have Archive and the three other enchantments.
  • Dictate of Kruphix will trigger during your upkeep. That will cause Sphinx's Tutelage first ability to trigger, since you drew a card, and make your opponent mill two (and keep milling two as long as they flip cards that share a color). This is your first draw, so, Alhammaret's Archive won't trigger.
  • At the beginning of the draw step, Monastery Siege triggers. However, before anything can go on the stack, you draw your card for the turn. This is your second draw, so the Archive will make you draw two cards instead. Sphinx's Tutelage will trigger twice.
  • The Monastery Siege trigger can now go on the stack. It goes on the stack at the same time as the triggers from Sphinx's Tutelage from the previous draw, and you get to stack them. For the sake of this example, I'll assume you put the Monastery Siege trigger on the stack first, so that it resolves last and, by the time it has resolved, the Sphinx's Tutelage triggers have already resolved and are out of the way.
  • The Monastery Siege trigger resolves. Since you are, again, drawing a card, the archive will replace that with drawing two cards. The final result will be, you draw two cards, then discard a card. Sphinx's Tutelage triggers twice more, and those triggers mill your opponent for some more cards.
  • Later in the turn you can activate the activated ability on Sphinx's Tutelage. For every time it resolves (you can activate the ability multiple times, if you have the mana), the Archive will, again, replace your draw with two draws, so you will draw two cards, discard one, and Sphinx's Tutelage will trigger itself twice. Then those triggers will resolve, milling your opponent some more.
June 25, 2015 1:30 p.m.

mrfr1day says... #5

How does having two Sphinx's Tutelage on he field work?

June 25, 2015 1:50 p.m.

Boza says... #6

For every draw in that very long description, there will be 2 Tutelage triggers.

June 25, 2015 1:54 p.m.

mrfr1day says... #7

Okay gotcha! Thanks for the answers!!

June 25, 2015 2 p.m.

zandadoum says... #8

@TheRedMage Dictate diesnt trigger on your upkeep, it triggers in draw step.

so dictate and tutelage trigger at same time and player with prio selects in which order to resolve.

July 27, 2015 1:20 p.m.

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