Never make a manabase again?

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Posted on Oct. 31, 2018, 12:28 p.m. by SMASHER101

I like commander a lot and have quite a few decks, I set my cards like Cyclonic Rift and Lightning Greaves aside so I can put them in whatever deck I am using.

I play a lot of multicolor, and more and more i'm thinking of doing the same with all of my lands, and just making a manabase that can go into whatever deck i'm using, then back out after the game. (like if I am going to play a temur deck, I grab all my lands in that color combination and shuffle them in with my deck (basics would stay in the deck of course)

So which lands do I get, here is what I have thought of so far:

pain lands

some of the cheaper fastlands and dominaria lands

bounce lands

Ash Barrens Command Tower Exotic Orchard and Nimbus Maze

the reveal a land lands

scry lands

Some kind of slow fetch package?

Which lands should I buy? I'm thinking that with a slow fetch & zendicar check lands manabase I could run a lot of basics, what do you think?

Flooremoji says... #2

I don't really know, but MadEngie has a great list of lands. Only modern ones though.

October 31, 2018 12:41 p.m.

SynergyBuild says... #3

Never get the reveal lands, much too inconsistent unless you are 2 colored. Pain lands are budget value 101, amazing in decks from the most casual to most competitive. Bounce lands are Okay, If you are WR the scry land is okay, but the rest are kind of bad, because they are too slow. Slow fetches are generally weak unless you are a very budget 4/5-color control deck, used with cards like Canopy Vista.

The Tango/2 Basics Needed lands are sweet BTW, if you are 2-3 colors. All of the lands you linked are sweet, as are City of Brass, Mana Confluence, and occasionally Gemstone Mine or Forbidden Orchard (political win!) dependent on the deck and budget.

Basics are the best budget land, really, and up to 3 colored decks can run 2/3s of their lands as that as long as Niv-Mizzet, Parun isn't their main gameplan.

October 31, 2018 12:53 p.m.

SMASHER101 says... #4

What are tango lands?

October 31, 2018 12:56 p.m.

SMASHER101 says... #5

October 31, 2018 12:59 p.m.

SynergyBuild says... #6

Canopy Vista, Prairie Stream, Sunken Hollow, Smoldering Marsh, and Cinder Glade are the Tango lands, because 'It takes two to tango'

It is more often called the 'Battle Lands,' but the Reveal lands are also called that, so I use tango because no other set of lands are called those.

October 31, 2018 1:09 p.m.

SMASHER101 says... #7

how's that?

October 31, 2018 1:21 p.m.

ZendikariWol says... #8

Usually for me

Command Tower, Path of Ancestry, Ash Barrens, Exotic Orchard/Reflecting Pool

Tri lands if applicable (ie Savage Lands)

Shock lands (ie Temple Garden)

Check lands (ie Sulfur Falls)

Scry lands (ie Temple of Malice)

Bounce lands (ie Dimir Aqueduct)

October 31, 2018 1:24 p.m.

ninjaclevs13 says... #9

No one has mentioned the filter lands yet (e.g. Twilight Mire), and I think they're great. Their only real downside is no colored mana on turn 1.

I agree that scry lands can be kinda weak. The only time I run them is if I care about the top card(s) of my library, like in my Maelstrom Wanderer or Aminatou, the Fateshifter deck.

Also, fetches (like Misty Rainforest) and shocks (Steam Vents) are really a given in any deck.

October 31, 2018 1:41 p.m.

SMASHER101 says... #10

Im too poor for a fetch scry base, and I put the oddysy filters on the deckstats page allready; they are cheaper

October 31, 2018 1:59 p.m.

SMASHER101 says... #11

oops I meant shock not scry lol

October 31, 2018 1:59 p.m.

ninjaclevs13 says... #12

How about crowdlands from Battlebond? They're pretty cheap and are almost always an untapped dual (without the basic land types)

E.g. Bountiful Promenade

October 31, 2018 2:21 p.m.

BS-T says... #13

I've recently become a big fan of the Odyssey filters ('signet lands'?) so long as you don't have necessary T1 plays but then, pack enough basics and you'll be OK anyway. The pain lands are excellent IMO (along with CoB and MC to a degree) - they can tired you over early at a cost of a couple of life while you assemble your other lands and then just use them for colourless. Tango's and Shocks have the basic land types which can matter occasionally (Skyshroud Claim).

The Shocks are a little higher up for budget considerations but are probably worth getting a set of for a project like this because they do smooth out a deck somewhat. However, I am firmly in the camp of believing you don't need Fetches/ABURs/Shocks for a very good mana base unless you are in a position where you want to be adding 0.5s here and there to your win percentages/chances.

October 31, 2018 2:40 p.m.

SMASHER101 says... #14

I do like casting Skyshroud Claim, but are the battlebond lands worth the pricetag to buy them all? Maybe I will ask for some lands for christmas...

October 31, 2018 2:50 p.m.

SMASHER101 says... #15

Maybe a set of shocks too for christmas, becaus ethey will go down more yet...

October 31, 2018 2:51 p.m.

DuTogira says... #16

The commander lands: Morphic Pool and it’s ilk are also pretty good. Cheap(ish) too because they’re only used in commander.

October 31, 2018 4:23 p.m.

SynergyBuild says... #17

ninjaclevs13 just said that

October 31, 2018 4:25 p.m.

ninjaclevs13 says... #18

SMASHER101 I do think that they are worth their price tag; they're all under $7 and I can't really see them going much lower, and since they were just released, they won't be reprinted anytime soon.

October 31, 2018 5:07 p.m.

Rzepkanut says... #19

Check this mana base out mate...

Best 100$ Budget "Tier-1 Styled" 5 Color Mana Base

Commander / EDH* Rzepkanut


November 1, 2018 7:16 a.m.

FogonaFrog66 says... #20

If you’re running more than two colors, the filter lands are a must. I would acquire all the iterations of them. If you’re on a budget, the Vivid lands aren’t really expensive and can help fix your mana sufficiently. Then I would grab colorless utility lands such as Reliquary Tower, Strip Mine, or Homeward Path, just to make a few. It’s a neat idea, I’ll think more on it.

November 1, 2018 8:37 a.m.

BS-T says... #21

The Vivid cycle is a good call FogonaFrog66

November 1, 2018 5:18 p.m.

Ghostshaman33 says... #22

I have to agree on the vivid lands. I tend to run very cheap mana bases, as part of my personal building rules, and that cycle has helped me in a bind more than I care to mention.

November 13, 2018 11:24 p.m.

SMASHER101 says... #23

I have decided and bought lands. Further discussion is unnecessary to me. If you would like to create a more complete thread for others that's fine. Thanks for all of your help, I am unsubscribing to this thread now.

November 15, 2018 noon

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