Vampire's stay midrange

Modern* keyb

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Blue/Black —Dec. 4, 2016

Hey!

Anyone have any good card tips if i want to keep this deck the colors blue/black?

Pheardemons says... #1

Not sure how you found my decks, but always willing to give advice for decks. Especially vampires! Love the tribe. Been wanting to make a vampire deck myself. Couple of questions before I give any kind of advice.

1) How budget are you? Or are you willing to take suggestions and save on buying cards?

2) You say control, but you are kind of everywhere in that regard. Control as in take over the boardstate? Control as in deciding what your opponent is able to play? Control as in reacting to whatever they play? Do you prefer counters (I.E.Mana Leak)? Reactionary (I.E. Cruel Edict), or disruption (I.E. Thoughtseize). You can definitely have multiple kinds, but always better to stick to one theme.

3) What does your meta look like? If you don't know, are you looking for a universal board and sideboard?

4) In your own words what're you looking to do with this deck? Main combinations, specific cards that you want to keep no matter what (if any).

November 17, 2016 10:09 p.m.

keyb says... #2

Thanks i need alot of help inn the start.

1) Budget is big, means i can buy almost anything. Trying to make it Tier 1-2. I will take all suggestions.2)Controll, as i dont want any suprises. Counters are fun, but im thinking of sticking with 4 Countersqualls? and then 4 inqustion of kozilek and 2 duress or something? My main target is too stall the game, too overrun with my planeswalker or vampire like bloodline keeper.3)Meta might be only Tier 2. There are some really good matches who play infect. I have so far lost too much, so i understand i need to doo some big changes. If i understood Meta correct? Also i want to take this deck to tournement inn modern.4)Bloodline keeper, Blood artist, gatekeeper of malakir, and Ashiok. Combination is to have the board clear as much as possable, with my opponent saccing. And also use counters, and maybe more counters inn sideboard agaisnt burn.

Hope i ansvared your question good enought.

Best Regards Keyb

November 18, 2016 4:32 p.m.

keyb says... #3

About controll, i think i want to stick to Reactionary the most and some disruption inn start, too stop rush. But as i said, i will take all suggestions and advices. Do you have any ideas for the sideboard as well? Damniantion is expensive, but good. Shuld that be main?

November 18, 2016 4:36 p.m.

Pheardemons says... #4

Give me a couple hours as I have a dinner to go to tonight, and it'll give me time to think about how the deck should be in the way that you described. Would you prefer me to make my own list (example) and let you look at it? Or would you prefer me to break down the deck you have and offer suggestions of cards to replace it with another type of mock list in the description?

November 20, 2016 6:53 p.m.

keyb says... #5

Thanks so much for taking time too look at it. If you could brake it down and suggest cards to replace, would have been awesome. I played with it today with a friend and wonn 7 out of 8 games. Lost agaisnt rancor with experiment one and bloodrush. But if your own list is easyier you can do that too.

November 20, 2016 7:13 p.m.

Pheardemons says... #6

Alright. So I'll give you multiple options for the deck. First will be mono-black, second will be black/red. If you don't care about counters I won't even go into blue/black as vampires don't benefit from blue unless you are specifically going for counters.

Mono-Black

Benefits of Mono-Black is that you don't have to sacrifice life to fetchlands and shocklands, plus Vampire Nocturnus becomes that much more powerful. Also some suggestions that you are definitely missing for vampires; Feast of Blood, Urge to Feed, and possible Blade of the Bloodchief, Bloodghast, Guul Draz Assassin and Guul Draz Vampire.

As far as black control goes, the basis should be 4 Inquisition of Kozilek and 2 Thoughtseize. You can reverse those if your meta has a lot of high CMC decks such as tron ect. This can help you take cards out of your opponents hand that you possibly could not handle late game. For Vampires Feast of Blood and Urge to Feed are definitely the cards to go to. Gaining four life, plus pumping your vampires. Powerful cards.

Let's go to creatures.

You can go one of two ways with that. You can go the route that Captivating Vampire is the main win condition. You can play a lot of smaller vampires and then control all of your opponent's creatures. This route is somewhat unstable as if your opponent is control, low on creatures, or have enough removal to hit Captivating Vampire then your win condition falls apart. I would personally go the second route of Vampire Nocturnus to be the win condition and just beat your opponent down. Vampire Nocturnus isn't legendary, which means if multiple can be played the abilities will stack. So your creature base is pretty solid, I'd just change some of them.

2 Guul Draz Vampire

2 Guul Draz Assassin

4 Blood Artist

3 Vampire Nighthawk

2 Captivating Vampire

3 Gatekeeper of Malakir

3 Vampire Nocturnus

3 Kalastria Highborn

3 Bloodline Keeper  Flip

25 total creatures

This would probably be a balanced way for the creatures to be as powerful and midranged as vampires get. Obviously this is more of a universal list, rather than any kind of specific meta.

Non-creature spells

2 Feast of Blood

3 Urge to Feed

4 Inquisition of Kozilek

1 Thoughtseize

4 Night's Whisper

14 non-creature spells

Thus leaving you with 21 lands that can all be swamps. I'd probably put a couple Ghost Quarter in there.

Black/Red

With adding the red you have access to more vampires as well as more control options. Mainly Terminate and Lightning Bolt. I would switch Terminate for Feast of Blood and Lightning Bolt for Urge to Feed.

Creatures would be Olivia Voldaren and Stromkirk Noble. I would bring Vampire Nocturnus down to one, and put in one Olivia Voldaren. I would then bring Vampire Nighthawk and Captivating Vampire down by one each leaving three openings for Stromkirk Noble.

Of course Black/red changes the lands as well.

4 Bloodstained Mire

2 Polluted Delta (there solely for more fetches in general, not the blue fetch).

2 Blood Crypt

2 Smoldering Marsh

1 Mountain

8 Swamp

2 Ghost Quarter

Sideboard

3 Relic of Progenitus - Graveyard hate against dredge, Tarmogoyf, Snapcaster Mage, ect

2 Bile Blight - Against token decks. They can be seriously fast and overpowering.

3 Geth's Verdict - Against Boggles as hexproof would destroy you. And any other deck that plays singular huge creatures

3 Dragon's Claw - Against burn and any kind of red deck.

2 Damnation - Creature heavy decks

2 Thoughtseize - or Inquisition of Kozilek depending on what is mainboard. There to help against combo decks or other decks that you can't handle.

If you decide to go the black/red way you could also look into Kolaghan's Command which I would most likely replace the two Thoughtseize with. Also either Shattering Spree or Shatterstorm for affinity and tron based decks. I would replace those with Bile Blight. Also maybe one or two Crumble to Dust to completely take tron of of their lands, also doesn't hurt to destroy Celestial Colonnade against control as well.

Obviously these are suggestions, take what you like and build off of it. Sideboards are definitely meta dependent but I'd probably go with those against an unknown meta. Let me know if you have any questions about these suggestions.

November 20, 2016 9:33 p.m.

Pheardemons says... #7

November 20, 2016 9:36 p.m.

keyb says... #8

Hey! Thanks for looking at the deck, the monoblack you are suggesting is like my old deck, but stronger with the cards u add. Like Guul daz assasin was one of my favorites. I think il try monoblack again, and maybe take sign inn blood if my opponent has 2 life and i can just cast a sorcery on him. And i think il take 2 of vampire nox, because lands is'nt a color. And 1 of vampire kalitas, because he can winn games on hes own. And 3 of captivating, since hes easy to remove. Black red must be more aggro than control, so i think il try this.4 Gatekeeper of malakir, 3 guul draz assasin, 2 of gul draz vampire, and i think i shuld drop kalastria? I dont like her that much. What do you think? This deck can be strong inn modern meta, i can feel it!

November 21, 2016 5:49 a.m.

Pheardemons says... #9

Kalastria Highborn is there to keep your life in check. You would probably lose A LOT to burn, so she is there as a mainboard way to last. If you can do her effect at minimum 3 times against burn, they probably won't win. You have enough creatures to stop them, therefore they have to win with their spells. They'll eventually go hellbent which gives you the advantage to pick up after that.

Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet is definitely a good card, just remember if you have him AND Blood Artist on the field you do NOT get the effects of Blood Artist, nor Kalastria Highborn for that matter, because Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet is a replacement effect.

Red/Black just adds some more efficient cards in the way of vampires. Terminate and Lightning Bolt are some of the BEST removal in the format, and adding red allows you to access them. Stromkirk Captain is also a damn good midrange vampire card, that comes in with a HUGE target on his back. Olivia Voldaren can get you the when you're behind if you have enough mana.

One thing to remember is play with what you love. I am a true advocate to play to have fun, instead of winning, and that keeps magic a game to keep coming back too. In saying that, competitively you do need to revamp the deck in the sense that yours is too slow and clunky at the moment. I gave you some suggestions, but the absolute best way to figure out what is better is to get the cards and playtest against as many decks as possible. This will also help you realize what is best for your sideboard. Have fun with vampires my man.

November 21, 2016 8:45 a.m.

Pheardemons says... #10

Somewhere in there you should absolutely include one or two copies of Drana, Liberator of Malakir. Great card to boost all of your vampires to make them more powerful. This with Vampire Nocturnus on the battlefield should be a game ender.

November 21, 2016 12:55 p.m.