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Bramble Sovereign
Creature — Dryad
Whenever another nontoken creature enters the battlefield, you may pay . If you do, that creature's controller creates a token that's a copy of that creature.
wallisface on How Good is Atalan Jackal?
3 months ago
Specifically for OPs Ghired deck, which I had assumed this entire conversation was about, there are only 2 creatures that can make copies of creatures (Bramble Sovereign and Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker, both of which should have better targets), zero ways to blink creatures, and only 2 other cards I saw which care about creatures entering (Aura Shards and Warleader's Call). None of this justifies Wood Elves.
Even for OPs Chulane deck, where Wood Elves feels more at-home, there’s basically no synergy outside of the commander itself, Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines and two blink spells (for some reason Ephemerate isn’t even being played). While Wood Elves has actual value here, I can’t see it being more useful than a Birds of Paradise or any other mana-dork for that matter, which the deck is missing.
Kazierts on Should I Keep the Mana …
4 months ago
Short answer, yes. If your deck is based around creatures, instants and sorceries then having more of those is always preferable. Also, interacting wih lands is always harder, so your mana would be safer.
Long answer, you need a lot more ramp just in general. Even with Animar, Soul of Elements's discount, Riku is a very mana hungry commander. If you pair that up with Bramble Sovereign's ability, then nothing will cost less than X. I usually exaggerate with ramp in my decks, but you probably should have at least 15 ramp cards.
There's some other stuff I'd like to recommend, but I'll say that on your deck's page.
Eilel on
Selvala, Heart of the Wilds
6 months ago
Big fat creatures
Removal:
World Breaker (exile removal + flying blocker + graveyard recursion)
The Tarrasque (big haste + ward + fight)
Endurance (een van de beste artefact / enchantment removal en is een creature (kan voor 0 mana spelen))
Enabler:
Thunderfoot Baloth (trample en +2/+2)
Dawnglade Regent (Monarch en hexproof)
Cultivator Colossus (ramp + card draw)
Seedborn Muse (Untap)
Pathbreaker Ibex (budget craterhoof)
Aggressive Mammoth (trample)
Bellowing Tanglewurm (intimidate voor alles (vervelende ability om te blocken))
Bramble Sovereign (mana sink, dubbel creatures, vgm speel je bijna geen legendary creatures dus dit past best goed!!)
card draw / advantage:
Return of the Wildspeaker (dit zou een no brainer moeten zijn, of +3/+3 of draw een miljoen kaarten op instant speed)
Cream of the Crop (setup)
Graveyard recursion:
Moldgraf Monstrosity (graveyard to battlefield)
Devotion
Wincon
Hexdrinker (early game en mana sink, met genoeg levels is die unkillable en kan niet worden geblocked)
Tsukimi on Eda, Mother of the Lost
9 months ago
legendofa this is definitely my favorite iteration thus far. My older versions did have the commander making a 1/1 token copy of target creature as they ETB and seeing an official mechanic that so closely resembles the mechanic I homebrewed is a fun thing to build around.
The cost is intentionally high for Populate because in my experience it can be a very strong ability - I'm guessing especially with Offspring. My goal is to make it on the less powerful side because having a super value custom made commander doesn't feel very good so more restrictions help it feel like an an actual card hopefully. Hence the restrictions on life gain as well.
Bramble Sovereign and Vitu-Ghazi Guildmage etc. are great examples, if the card doesn't feel OP I will think about reducing the cost. Thank you for the feedback!
It's kind of silly at this point considering I have a whole Brenard deck and I had a Sakishima and Sidar deck as well but nothing has quite satisfied the itch.
legendofa on Eda, Mother of the Lost
9 months ago
Comparing to Bramble Sovereign, the offspring ability feels balanced.
I'd almost push the life gain ability to triggering on any creature entering, token or nontoken.
The best comparisons for the populate ability are Vitu-Ghazi Guildmage and Cayth, Famed Mechanist. Going off those two, with a side of Rhys the Redeemed, it's probably safe to reduce the cost. Maybe , , Tap another creature.
Which custom tokens Commander is your favorite so far?
JoyTheEnbySliverLover on If I make a token …
1 year ago
So I am mostly interested in how the interaction works around card types. Ashaya, Soul of the Wild doesn't make tokens into land creatures with her ability, I know that much, but the creature I want to copy would be a land so I am wondering if that copy would inherit the land type. I honestly don't know and I am considering using Ashaya, Soul of the Wild in a deck that makes a lot of copies of creature. Would be nice to know if some of those copies would be land creatures.
For an example of an interaction like what I would be using, imagine I had a Bramble Sovereign and Ashaya, Soul of the Wild on the battlefield and I cast a Llanowar Elves then paid the to make a token copy of Llanowar Elves, would the token copy be a land in addition to its other types?
Made_Compleat on People's Thoughts on Mommy Norn?
2 years ago
Oh no! A functional monowhite commander! EVERYBODY PANIC!
Alright. I get that Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines is a big deal. A decent statline, vigilance, Yarok, the Desecrated as one ability and a much, much, much better version of Hushbringer as the other. She's certainly a powerhouse. But should she see the hammer? I think not.
I'll not say that Machine Mom isn't disruptive. She can shut down a good amount of popular cards in the format, such as Bramble Sovereign, Terror of the Peaks, and the notorious combo piece Palinchron. She can and will double up monowhite Oblivion Ring style effects. Honestly, I think that doubling Seal Away type cards is going to be the stax-ier part of Mama Machine. She doesn't shut down many combo decks (unless they use the aforementioned Palinchron), and really doesn't answer most cEDH decks. She hates out on ETBs, sure, but Yasharn, Implacable Earth hates out on sacrifice, arguably better. Gaddock Teeg is just absurdly good stax, and both Gaddok and Yasharn grant access to Green.
If you want to make Elesh Norn stax, then, ok, that's probably a deck that will give everyone a headache. But... are we going to cry "BAN HER!" for one way of building around Machine Mommy? If you want to run stax, go and buy a Hokori, Dust Drinker or Oloro, Ageless Ascetic. They're much better depriving everyone of fun than New Norn. Elesh Norn can do so much more than just stop everyone from having fun.
Honestly, a lot of the complaints that I see here are against the Stax archetype in general, not Norn. And I get that Norn seems like a good Stax commander, but... If hate stax, than complain about Hokori, or Oloro, or yes, even Archelos, Lagoon Mystic. Stax has its place: cEDH and masochistic playgroups.
Something that no one here is referencing is the Game Knights video in which Josh Lee Kwai played with a (proxied) Elesh Norn, and his deck was oppressive, but nothing too bad. Notably, Norn's restrictive ability saw a lot less use than her double ability, which was used to double small value abilities, as well as oblivion ring effects. The deck won the game, but it was very close and I wouldn't say it made Norn look banable. Not by a long shot.
So, in conclusion, Elesh Norn, Mother of Machines is a powerhouse, who certainly can be a problem, but probably isn't the worst card in EDH. Really, a lot of the complaints about her are complaints about Stax in general.
Thanks for reading my rant.
Also, did anyone else notice the fact that Navani (from Brandon Sanderson's Stormlight Archive) and Elesh Norn have the same epithet? That always makes me crack up.
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