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Creature — Goblin Warrior
Wither (This deals damage to creatures in the form of -1/-1 counters.)
Boggart Ram-Gang Discussion
8 months ago
Diplomatic Immunity has no effect on the interaction at all. If a creature with Diplomatic Immunity on it blocks a Scuzzback Scrapper it will have a -1/-1 counter put on it. If a creature with Diplomatic Immunity on it blocks Boggart Ram-Gang it will have three -1/-1 counters put on it.
Neither combat damage, nor the replacement effect created by wither target. Therefore; Diplomatic Immunity will not do anything since nothing is trying to target the creature it is enchanting.
9 months ago
1 year ago
I havent actually played with wither effects myself, put i admire how it looks.
if you are looking for reasons to run red there is always Everlasting Torment and Boggart Ram-Gang. The forementioned could somewhat get in the way of your obelisk spider depending on how much you need the lifegain. the second allows you to put more pressure on further justifying Everlasting Torment. Seeing as bouth are three drops they could maybe hurt your curve.
finally you could also consider Necroskitter for added value.
let me hear your thoughts as i am very much interested in seeing things from others view ;D
1 year ago
If you're running them, just mainboard Qasali Pridemage.
In terms of hyper-budget deckbuilding, I find its a lot easier to focus in on a 'gimmick' strategy than look for pure value, which is why a 'multicolour matters' build is good. I'd give some thought to degenerate Vizier of Remedies/Heartmender/Safehold Elite interactions myself, but pure multicolour matters can be strong.
Cute interactions- its what sets a budget deck apart from being a worse version of an expensive deck. Wild Pair and Trostani's Summoner. Playing to a value 3-4-5 drop plan can do a lot. Worm Harvest and similar offer a lot of value to back up Knight of New Alara. There are countless strategies around.
Well is worth a look for sideboard tech.
Giantbaiting has done well in some of my past budget lists, as has Boggart Ram-Gang. Spirit Bonds is an interesting engine to run alongside a more traditional wheenies list, which might help against 'value oriented' midrange metas.
The main thing is to settle into a gameplan. For aggro, its 'how do I do early damge, how do I bypass a strong board to close out the game'. Cards with haste, cards that want to attack turns 1-3, cards that deal a ton of direct damage turns 4-5.
For midrange its 'how do I make my hand worth enough more than my opponents and cash it in for damage'. Cards that do things when you do something you are doing anyway- jamming a ton of Brindle Boar variants with a Gutter Grime works in some metas.
For control its 'how do I stop my opponent closing out the game and slowly win'. Its real tricky on a budget.
For this specific deck, you need to make a choice- The 2-3-4 drops are very strong, but you need to commit to either producing creatures which are hard to remove an create a lot of value midgame, or end the game. Keep that choice in mind when picking cards and you'll get something great.
1 year ago
Nice budget deck but a few cards seem weak in an aggro deck even on budget standards. Perhaps they are not but just in case I figured I could suggest some other budget alternatives. Hope these help.
Banefire seems weak/situational for an aggro deck
Ghor-Clan Rampager to top the curve/ give uncounterable +4/+4 to a creature for two mana
Hellrider to deal a great deal of damage
Hero of Oxid Ridge for the top of the curve
Lightning Mauler doesn't fit well because it is a nonbo with both Fanatic of Xenagos and Flinthoof Boar. Lightning Mauler is something that needs a follow up and the two cards which would be most impactful with haste already have haste. This results in soulbinding with a one drop (one of which is Experiment One which is better when it evolves over multiple turns and not just charging in as a 1/1 or 2/2). It could be good but seems awkward in the list.
Magma Jet seems too mana intensive for such little damage. Scry 2 doesn't seem to make up for it's lack of impact.
1 year ago
I really like the idea of swapping out the Leatherback Baloth for Boggart Ram-Gang and I should also definitely make some room for Aspect of Hydra. I too am scared that I'm going to have too much manna and nothing to do with it, at this point I'm think it would be wise to do away with some of the ramp or at least cut back on it. The reason I put Primeval Titan is to pump up my Dungrove Elder but that may be a little excessive.
Anyways Thank you for the useful advice ellie-is!
1 year ago
I personally like Boggart Ram-Gang quite a bit in Stompy (you could remove a couple Baloths for it).
You also probably don't need Primeval Titan, given you don't really have anything that mana-intense on your deck currently. And you could also probably get away with either not running ramp, or keeping just the elves/just the utopias. Or, if you do keep all the ramp, perhaps consider adding a mana sink of some sort so you have something to do with all that extra mana you're generating.
Finally, you should definitely consider Aspect of Hydra regardless of the direction you want to go, because most of your deck combos with it super well and it's just a great card.
1 year ago
I recommend checking out SaffronOlive's GR HasteBraid deck for sure.
You can also build it more midrangy , trading some of the Aggro slots for Boartusk Liege. I've been working on that for a while now, with the Ponza mana/dork package, and even though it's a little bit of Magical Christmasland, I can confirm there's just nothing quite like having a Liege on the battlefield, casting Bloodbraid Elf, Cascading into a Boggart Ram-Gang, and then swinging with a 3/4 Trampler, a 5/5 with Wither, and a 5/4!
Xenagos, the Reveler fits nicely into the midrange shell as well ... generating Hasty 2/2s is great, but his Hasty 4/4s (when the Liege is out) are just bonkers.
Good luck (and skill) with the brew! Please tag me when you have a shell ... I'd love to take a look.
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