Rhadamanthus on Does Finest Hour stack?
1 day ago
Some more notes on the second part of your question: A triggered ability triggers whenever the given event happens. A trigger with an "intervening 'if' clause" (looks like "Whenever [event], if [condition], [effect]") checks its special condition twice: once when the given event happens and again right before the trigger starts resolving. If the first check isn't true then the ability doesn't trigger at all and if the second check isn't true, usually because someone's response changed something about the game state, then it's removed from the stack without resolving. Finest Hour's trigger does have an "intervening 'if' clause", but there's no way anyone's response or any other game event could somehow make the condition ("if it's the first combat phase of the turn") untrue before it starts resolving.
Yesterday on Does Finest Hour stack?
1 day ago
They stack. You'll get two additional combat phases. However, the untap happens immediately, so the creature in question likely won't be untapped for the second extra combat phase.
vic on Does Finest Hour stack?
1 day ago
If I have two Finest Hours in play, how many extra combat phases will I get if I attack with one creature (because of "if it's the first combat phase of the turn")?
I've never been clear on when such an effect is "checked" in relation to when it is put on the stack.
Rhadamanthus on Sinister Concoction + Moonshadow
1 day ago
You get multiple triggers in this situation. Each one of those costs is a separate action and they get paid separately from each other, the big clue being the "in any order" notes from the rules you found (it's interesting that Sinister Concoction's text puts the mill near the front of the list while the rule seems to say you should do that after everything else).
The times when Moonshadow would only trigger once for multiple things moving would be if those things are truly moving simultaneously. Some common examples include an effect that makes you discard 2 cards, an effect that mills you for 5, an effect that destroys all artifacts, or multiple creatures dying from combat damage (probably the most common example).
legendofa on Does an upkeep effect resolve …
3 days ago
Your Silhana Ledgewalker would get three +1/+1 counters from the first Hydra's Growth and six from the second. Nine new counters are added, so your Ledgewalker would end your upkeep with twelve counters.
Both of these triggers go on the stack at the same time, but the amount of counters is determined at resolution. The first Growth resolves, sees three counters, and adds three counters to double the total. The second Growth resolves, sees six counters, and adds six counters to double the new total.
vic on Does an upkeep effect resolve …
3 days ago
I have a Silhana Ledgewalker with a Hydra's Growth on it and a copy of that aura given by a Calix, Guided by Fate that I have in play.
My Ledgewalker has three +1/+1 counters already. Now it's time for my first upkeep since getting those two auras.
How many +1/+1 counters will it get during my upkeep?
capwner on If a creature is sacrificed …
3 days ago
Oh I'm dumb, my brain totally read Eternal Witness instead of Evolution Witness. ^^^ Seshiro is right
seshiro_of_the_orochi on If a creature is sacrificed …
4 days ago
I'm actually pretty sure that works.
You sacrifice your Squire to Ghave to put the ability on the stack and target Evolution Witness. Squire is in the grave before the ability starts resolving. As the ability resolves, you put the counter on Witness which creates a trigger waiting to be put on the stack as soon as it can. After checking state-based actions, Witness's ability goes on the stack and Squire can be chosen as a legal target, as it's a creature card in the graveyard. Once again, the stack starts resolving and you return the Squire from grave to hand.
capwner on If a creature is sacrificed …
4 days ago
No. So yes the creature you sac will be in the yard when Witness ETB resolves. But targets are selected when the ability is put on the stack, which happens the next time SBAs are checked after the trigger condition is met (as soon as the Witness enters, state based is checked before anyone gets priority). You will not get priority until after the ETB goes on the stack so after selecting targets. You would have to sac the creature you want to recur before this point, and so will not be able to do both things you want to do here (put a counter on witness + return the creature you sacced).
kryophyre on If a creature is sacrificed …
4 days ago
If I have Ghave, Guru of Spores, Evolution Witness, and a third creature on the battlefield, can I sacrifice the third creature to Ghave's second ability, to put a counter on the witness, and get the sacrificed creature back in my hand?
capwner on Sinister Concoction + Moonshadow
4 days ago
Sinister Concoction + Moonshadow
Discard and mill both permanent cards. Does Moonshadow get 1, 2, or 3 +1/+1 counters?
My understanding is it will be 3 because the multiple costs are paid sequentially and so trigger one at a time during activation, see 601.2h (on casting spells, but the rule about casting abilities says to use the same process)
"The player pays the total cost. First, they pay all costs that don’t involve random elements or moving objects from the library to a public zone, in any order. Then they pay all remaining costs in any order. Partial payments are not allowed. Unpayable costs can’t be paid."
However I was discussing this with a friend and they asked a judge, who said it triggers only once because the 3 cards changing zones are all part of the same cost so happen at the same time. I think this judge is totally wrong, lol. Can anybody else weigh in?
Rhadamanthus on Anvil of Bogardan, Mornsong Aria, …
4 days ago
Rmachowski: Answers to your question have been up for a while. Since there don't seem to be any follow-ups or corrections that need to be made, I marked one of them as the "Accepted answer" so this topic can move out of the list of unanswered questions. In the future you can take care of this yourself using the "Mark as Answer" button on the response that you feel is the most helpful answer to your question.
Rhadamanthus on Spark Double copying Watchful Radstag
6 days ago
Only the actual Spark Double copy will enter with an additional +1/+1 counter. Other copies it makes of itself won't get that. Spark Double's copy effect isn't adding another ability "[this] enters with an additional +1/+1 counter..." to its copiable characteristics, it's just giving you an additional instruction to follow as the copy effect is applied. In terms of abilities and other copiable values, it will just be a normal Watchful Radstag.
Last_Laugh on Spark Double copying Watchful Radstag
6 days ago
Nevermind on the infinite bit... the 3/3 Spark Double copy doesn't evolve.
Last_Laugh on Spark Double copying Watchful Radstag
6 days ago
Will future Radstag copies made from Spark Double retain the "enters with an additional +1+1 counter" and evolve my Radstags that're entering at 2/2? That would create a neverending infinite if I'm not mistaken?
Neotrup on Anvil of Bogardan, Mornsong Aria, …
1 week ago
Note that the discard from Anvil is not prevented. If they're empty handed you can have them search, then discard the card they find. They'll be able to cast an instant before having to discard, but it would stop them from playing most things, including lands.
Rhadamanthus on How does Brako, heartless hunter's …
1 week ago
Just once. It's okay for a creature to have negative power, there are even a couple who have been printed that way: Char-Rumbler, Spinal Parasite. That negative number can be used to do math or be compared to other numbers for higher/lower decisions, but if it's used to determine a result of something like damage, drawing cards, number of tokens, etc. then the result defaults to zero.
Rhadamanthus on What would the interactions be …
1 week ago
You can only apply Mirrormind Crown to one of those triggers, specifically the first one that resolves.
Additional triggered abilities are their own separate triggers from the original trigger. They get responded to separately, they resolve separately and they interact with other effects separately. This is different from replacement effects that double things (Doubling Season etc.), as they just double the result of the original event rather than creating additional events.
Rhadamanthus on card question about counter spells.
1 week ago
If a spell has targets, you have to choose them as part of the casting process, even before you pay the costs. Everyone will know what Explosive Singularity is targeting when other players are given a chance to respond after you cast it.
Consider that if you didn't choose targets until a spell started resolving, then cards like Keep Safe or Redirect Lightning wouldn't be able to work properly.
Rhadamanthus on Can End of Turn trigger …
1 week ago
To be clear for anyone who comes along later: there aren't any state based effects/actions happening here. They're all triggered abilities (start with "when/whenever/at"), and a triggered ability will trigger whenever its condition is met. The End phase of a turn is still happening during that turn and triggered abilities can trigger from any event that happens during that phase.
vic on Can End of Turn trigger …
1 week ago
Nevermind. I see that I've asked this question before (it's yes). I don't know how to delete this question.
vic on Can End of Turn trigger …
1 week ago
I control an Alandra, Sky Dreamer and a Sygg, River Cutthroat. I begin my turn with a draw, and deal 3 damage in combat. I go to End of Turn and draw one because of Sygg. Does that count as a second card drawn for the turn and I create a Drake?
DeathBySprnkles on What would the interactions be …
1 week ago
Let's say I have The Necrobloom, a creature (let's go with Mirkwood Bats) that has Mirrormind Crown equipped to it, and an Ancient Greenwarden. I play a land, triggering The Necrobloom's ability which also causes Ancient Greenwarden's effect to occur. I create the token of the copy of the Mirrormind Crown equipped creature, but do I make second one of the copy or do I make a token of the plant/zombie.
In short, Is the additional triggered ability part of the first time each turn or not?
theNeroTurtle on card question about counter spells.
1 week ago
Do I have to choose a target with Explosive Singularity before someone decided if they are going to counter it? Or, after I cast it giving people a moment to reply, once I have chosen a target, at that point it is too late and they can not respond?
legendofa on Anvil of Bogardan, Mornsong Aria, …
1 week ago
Anvil of Bogardan has an updated rules text, making it clearer it's a triggered ability: "At the beginning of each player’s draw step, that player draws an additional card, then discards a card."
The opponent would only search once. Here's how I see it breaking down:
- Opponent's draw step, Mornsong Aria and Anvil trigger. You choose the order they resolve in.
2 (a). If Aria resolves first, they search for a card, get hit by Ob Nixilis, Unshackled, and get their card. Aria prevents the draw from Anvil.
2 (b). If Anvil resolves first, the draw is prevented by Aria. Aria resolves, they search for a card, get hit by Ob Nixilis, Unshackled, and get their card.
Either way, Aria prevents the draw from Anvil from happening.
Noire_Samhain on Anvil of Bogardan, Mornsong Aria, …
1 week ago
Mornsong Aria prevents players from drawing at all, it's not a replacement effect akin to Underrealm Lich, so Bogardan wouldn't double the search. Each player would get one search and therefore trigger Ob Nixilis once each opponent's draw step.
Rmachowski on Anvil of Bogardan, Mornsong Aria, …
1 week ago
If I play Mornsong Aria and Anvil of Bogardan then cast Ob Nixilis, Unshackled would opponents have to search for 2 cards? If so does Ob Nixilis' ability trigger 2x?
Key texts:
Anvil of Bogardan- each player skips their discard phase. During each player's draw phase, that player draws an additional card and then chooses and discards one.
Mornsong Aria- Players cant draw cards or gain life. At the beginning of each players draw step, that player looses 3 life, searches their library for a card, puts it in their hand, then shuffles.
Ob Nixilis, Unshackled- Whenever an opponent searches his or her library, that player sacrifices a creature and looses 10 life.
Aspitxon on How does Brako, heartless hunter's …
1 week ago
Brako's ability reads: "Whenever a creature an opponent controls with the greatest power among creatures that player controls dies, draw a card and put a +1/+1 counter on Brako."
Let's say I have Brako on the battlefield and my opponent only has Grizzly Bears and Ornithopter on the battlefield. I cast a Toxic Deluge paying 2 life (so each creature gets -2/-2) and, therefore, my opponent's grizzly bears and ornihtopter will die. How many times will my Brako trigger? Once because grizzly bears' power is 0 and ornithopter's is -2? Or does ornithopter's negative power get set to 0 and Brako's ability triggers twice?
Rhadamanthus on If Ascendant Spirit is blinked …
1 week ago
rockgobbler: Since it appears you got a satisfactory answer to your question and there don't seem to be any follow-ups or corrections that need to be made, I marked it as the "Accepted answer" so this topic can move out of the list of unanswered questions. In the future you can take care of this yourself using the "Mark as Answer" button on the response that you feel is the most helpful answer to your question.
StarchyTaters on How would Kirol interact with …
2 weeks ago
Thank you so much!
I realised Kirol could also be copied by Rings after I had posted the question, and it only makes the combo better! I'll just have to throw something like Mirari's Wake into the deck to increase the viability.
Now I'm really excited to make the deck!
Thank you again!
Neotrup on How would Kirol interact with …
2 weeks ago
The copy would still be for Gavony Township, but do note you'll need to pay both times for a total of if you want to copy it twice. Rings will also trigger off of Kirol, but you'd need to pay to copy letting you pay again to copy Gavony for a total of if you wanted to copy it three times.
StarchyTaters on How would Kirol interact with …
2 weeks ago
Heya! I'm working on a new +1/+1 counter deck, and found a combo I want to build if it works:
- First, I would activate Gavony Township's second ability. This would trigger Rings of Brighthearth onto the stack, copying Gavony Township.
- Second, I would activate Kirol, Attentive First-Year, obviously targeting Rings of Brighthearth.
My question is: Would the copy of Rings of Brighthearth apply to the activated ability of Gavony on the stack or not?
If I'm reading rule 707.10 correctly, the copy would use the same context as the original trigger of Rings of Brighthearth so it would see the activated ability of Gavony, but I often misunderstand things like this.
Thank you so much for reading, I really appreciate it!
Rhadamanthus on Can Skill borrower use artifact …
2 weeks ago
You can use double square brackets around a card's name to create a reference link: Skill Borrower, Ancient Den. It's the best way to help make sure everyone understands what's going on in the question.
Yes, Skill Borrower can tap for mana in that example. Skill Borrower's ability will work with any kind of artifact and any kind of creature. If it were just meant to work with cards with only the "artifact" type and nothing else or only the "creature" type and nothing else then it would be written in a more specific way to make that clear.
rockgobbler on If Ascendant Spirit is blinked …
2 weeks ago
Yikes. Sinking that much mana seems insane when you could simply have a better snow creature in its place.
Avacyn1986 on Can Skill borrower use artifact …
2 weeks ago
If I have Skill borrower out on the field, and the top card of my library revealed is an artifact land like Ancient Den or Goldmire Bride, can she generate mana?
Neotrup on If Ascendant Spirit is blinked …
2 weeks ago
It will be a 1/1 spirit. Exiling it and returning it to the battlefield makes it a new object with no connection to the original, the same as if you cast a new Ascendant Spirit from your hand.
rockgobbler on If Ascendant Spirit is blinked …
2 weeks ago
My assumption is that the spirit would be a 4/4 Spirit Warrior Angel that draws a card upon hitting a player. However, each one of those steps could be contingent on the presence of the counters. Tricky tricky. Any help would be appreciates!
rockgobbler on If Ascendant Spirit is blinked …
2 weeks ago
After four turns, Ascendant Spirit is now a 6/6 flyer with the ability to draw a card after dealing damage to a player. If the spirit is hit with Flicker of Fate, which abilities will remain?
DarkKiridon on Planeswalkers as Commanders?!?!
2 weeks ago
As already stated, yes Grist, the Hunger Tide can be your commander. Also, while cool, who is much more cooler (in my opinion lol) is Zask, Skittering Swarmlord who can make Grist be cast from the graveyard.
Crow_Umbra on Planeswalkers as Commanders?!?!
2 weeks ago
"As long as Grist isn’t on the battlefield, it’s a 1/1 Insect creature in addition to its other types."
"Grist, the Hunger Tide can be your commander as its first ability works before the game begins during deck construction. (2021-06-18)
Anywhere but on the battlefield, Grist is a Legendary Planeswalker Creature — Grist Insect. Once it enters the battlefield, it is no longer a creature and is just a planeswalker. Anything that could search for or affect a creature or planeswalker card in zones other than the battlefield could affect Grist. For example, you could put it onto the battlefield with Chord of Calling, it could be countered by Essence Scatter (but not by Negate), and opponents couldn't make you discard it with Duress. (2021-06-18) "
theNeroTurtle on Planeswalkers as Commanders?!?!
2 weeks ago
I saw that Grist, the Hunger Tide is listed in the possible commanders section on EDHREC, as I am currently trying to build a deck in that color wheel. I already play Commodore Guff as a commander, but he has a ruling that says he can be in that spot.
Grist, the Hunger Tide does not say that... so why is it in that section of the EDHREC website? If it can be, I am thinking about building around it.
plakjekaas on The Jolly Balloon Man copying …
2 weeks ago
Just like tokens can die and trigger "when this permanent is put into a graveyard"- effects, tokens can be returned to hand. It doesn't exile, it won't trigger a Ketramose, the New Dawn for example, but it will trigger Barrin, Tolarian Archmage in the end step. The token just stops existing as soon as it arrives in its new zone (your hand, instead of the battlefield) and can't be retrieved from anywhere after it stopped existing.
Last_Laugh on The Jolly Balloon Man copying …
2 weeks ago
Will the token Riders of the Mark be able to produce tokens? I know the token exiles, but does going through the motion of returning it to my hand before it poofs meet the requirement?
Rhadamanthus on Can I use an opponent's …
2 weeks ago
Example of a goad effect for reference: Besmirch
You'll have to send the Dreadmaw at opponent B. When dealing with different requirements and restrictions on how you declare attackers, a legal attack is one that satisfies the maximum number of requirements without breaking any restrictions. The one restriction here is B's Crawlspace, so you can't send more than two creatures B's way. Goad sets up two requirements: the creature has to attack and it has to attack someone other than the player who goaded it if possible. Sending Dreadmaw at A and two creatures at B only satisfies one requirement from goad, but sending Dreadmaw at B (with a friend or not) satisfies two requirements of goad, so that's how you have to declare attackers.
Rhadamanthus on Xu-Ifit and reanimating Clones (Layers, …
2 weeks ago
Type-changing effects are applied in an earlier layer than ability granting/removing effects, so that's why Ashaya's effect still gets applied.
I think I understand more of your question about Clone. Clone's ability to copy something is not, in itself, a copy effect. It's a static ability with a replacement effect that modifies how Clone enters the battlefield and it creates a copy effect as it's applied. Xu-Ifit is removing Clone's static ability at the time it would normally be applied, so the copy effect is never created. When Clone gets to the battlefield and you start going through the steps of layers to determine Clone's characteristics, there's nothing in layer 1 (the copy effect layer) to consider, so it's just a 0/0 Skeleton of itself with no abilities.