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veritablecvn on Ghalta Primal Hunger effect stack …

3 hours ago

No, Ghalta, Primal Hunger's effect does not change it's mana cost. The text on Varolz, the Scar-Striped says that the scavenge cost is the mana cost. So even though you have the potential to cast Ghalta for a different total cost, the mana cost stays the same. Here are two pertinent rules from the comprehensive rules:

202.1. A card’s mana cost is indicated by mana symbols near the top of the card. (See rule 107.4.) On most cards, these symbols are printed in the upper right corner. Some cards from the Future Sight set have alternate frames in which the mana symbols appear to the left of the illustration.

202.1a The mana cost of an object represents what a player must spend from their mana pool to cast that card. Unless an object’s mana cost includes Phyrexian mana symbols (see rule 107.4f), paying that mana cost requires matching the type of any colored or colorless mana symbols as well as paying the generic mana indicated in the cost.

Omniscience_is_life on Ghalta Primal Hunger effect stack …

3 hours ago

It seems like there's a few things to clear up here:

  1. the mana cost of a card never changes, even if you can cast it for less. That is to say, a Metallic Sliver always has a mana cost of 1, even if you have Foundry Inspector in play and can cast it for 0.

  2. activating the Scavenge ability of a creature isn't the same thing as casting it: Ghalta, Primal Hunger only cost less if you're casting it.

You can link to a card as I did above by doing something like this:

[[Ghalta, Primal Hunger]]

RallyToMe on Ghalta Primal Hunger effect stack …

4 hours ago

Does the discount effect of Ghalta make it cheaper to scavange from my graveyard?

Caerwyn on selvala combo i need help …

19 hours ago

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19 hours ago

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19 hours ago

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Rhadamanthus on Stacking Fleshtaker and Ravenous Squirrel's …

1 day ago

Polaris: The question isn't about ordering the triggered abilities of the cards involved. It' about whether it's possible to choose the order of Ravenous Squirrel's activated ability and Fleshtaker's triggered ability.

Artizan81 on Does Ruxa work with instant …

1 day ago

Hi again,

we have a disagree about Umbral Mantle ?

does ruxa's ability apply if a vanilla creature is equipped with Umbral Mantle and use it ?

Neotrup on Will Primal Vigor trigger when …

1 day ago

It will not work. Primal Vigor functions off creating tokens, as it's relevant oracle text is as follows:

If one or more tokens would be created, twice that many of those tokens are created instead.

The full rule @Polaris mentioned specifies the tokens are not created:

608.3b If the object that's resolving is a copy of a permanent spell, that object becomes a token permanent and is put onto the battlefield under the control of the spell’s controller. It is no longer a copy of a spell. The token put onto the battlefield this way is not "created" for the purposes of any replacement effects or triggered abilities that refer to creating a token.

CamraMaan on Will Primal Vigor trigger when …

2 days ago

Excellent! Much appreciated! :)

CamraMaan on Does Dress Down affect creatures …

2 days ago

Much appreciated!

Rhadamanthus on Does Dress Down affect creatures …

2 days ago

My original response wasn't as clear as it could have been: The token copy will have no abilities when it enters the battlefield because Dress Down is also on the battlefield, but the token will get its abilities back after Dress Down leaves the battlefield because all of those abilities from the original were copied. Here's the description of "copiable values" from the Comprehensive Rules:

707.2. When copying an object, the copy acquires the copiable values of the original object’s characteristics and, for an object on the stack, choices made when casting or activating it (mode, targets, the value of X, whether it was kicked, how it will affect multiple targets, and so on). The copiable values are the values derived from the text printed on the object (that text being name, mana cost, color indicator, card type, subtype, supertype, rules text, power, toughness, and/or loyalty), as modified by other copy effects, by its face-down status, and by “as . . . enters the battlefield” and “as . . . is turned face up” abilities that set power and toughness (and may also set additional characteristics). Other effects (including type-changing and text-changing effects), status, and counters are not copied.

So the token copy is created with all the abilities of the original, Dress Down will take those abilities away when the token enters the battlefield, and the abilities come back when Dress Down goes away.

In your question about Aeve, Progenitor Ooze:

  • They do enter with +1/+1 counters. Dress Down can't affect them before they actually enter the battlefield
  • They don't have the "[this] isn't legendary..." ability, so they will be subject to the legend rule. Since the storm copies resolve one at a time and the legend rule has to be dealt with immediately, this will limit the number of counters the last one is able to enter the battlefield with

Polaris on Stacking Fleshtaker and Ravenous Squirrel's …

2 days ago

Necrosis24, the abilities actually do go on the stack at the same time. When you sacrifice the creature to activate Ravenous Squirrel's ability, both Ravenous Squirrel and Fleshtaker's "whenever you sacrifice" abilities trigger, but neither of them can be put onto the stack until the Ravenous Squirrel activation is finished and the ability is on the stack. Once that happens, state-based actions are checked before players get priority, and the two triggers from Fleshtaker and Ravenous Squirrel will be added to the stack. Since you control both and they're being added at the same time, you can indeed choose what order to put them on the stack in.

This applies any time an action would trigger multiple abilities you control, or even if different actions during the resolution of a single spell or ability would trigger multiple abilities.

DemonDragonJ on Stacking Fleshtaker and Ravenous Squirrel's …

2 days ago

Necrosis24, that is very good to know; thank you, very much.

Polaris on Will Primal Vigor trigger when …

2 days ago

In this case, Primal Vigor will work. "Create a token" is just a modern wording for "put a token onto the battlefield under your control." I had to look up whether a copy of a permanent spell resolving as a token counts as putting a token onto the battlefield (since casting a card and putting a card onto the battlefield are two different actions), but according to rule 603.8b, a resolving copy of a permanent spell counts as a token being created/put onto the battlefield.

608.3b If the object that’s resolving is a copy of a permanent spell, that object becomes a token permanent and is put onto the battlefield under the control of the spell’s controller. (emphasis added)

The reason Doubling Season wouldn't work is that an "effect" isn't creating the tokens, they're being created by a permanent spell resolving.

Necrosis24 on Stacking Fleshtaker and Ravenous Squirrel's …

2 days ago

I may be wrong here but I am pretty sure you don’t have a choice on how they stack in this occasion.

You will activate Ravenous Squirrel’s ability and sacrifice a creature to pay it’s cost. Thus the Ravenous Squirrel’s ability will go on the stack first then the Fleshtaker’s triggered ability will go on the stack.

So regardless you will scry first off of Fleshtaker then draw a card from Ravenous Squirrel (which is what you want). But you do not have control on the order they stack.

You can however stack how both of their triggered abilities stack since they both trigger at the same time. Although in most situations it won’t matter in this case as their triggered abilities don’t really care about each other.

DemonDragonJ on Stacking Fleshtaker and Ravenous Squirrel's …

2 days ago

If a player controls both Fleshtaker and Ravenous Squirrel, and then sacrifices a creature with the squirrel's ability, can that player stack the abilities of both creatures so that they scry, then draw a card?

CamraMaan on Does Dress Down affect creatures …

2 days ago

Hopefully I can still get a response on this, since it's been a month, but what if Dress Down resolves before Cackling Counterpart? Will that affect how, say, Metallic Mimic gets copied by Cackling Counterpart...? It seems like losing all abilities before a creature gets copied would entail the copy having none of those abilities...? But I can see how this might not change anything either.

Similarly, say Dress Down is cast in response to Aeve, Progenitor Ooze being cast, after a storm brew? My assumption is that the storm trigger will still happen (on cast), creating a bunch of copies of Aeve on the stack, but they will 1) enter with no extra +1/+1 counters, and more importantly, 2) they will all copy the Legendary type, and therefore all but one will have to go...?

Thanks for any help! :)

CamraMaan on Will Primal Vigor trigger when …

2 days ago

I understand that Doubling Season will not double the tokens created by Aeve, Progenitor Ooze, but will Primal Vigor...? My guess is no, but I'm unclear on it. My assumption is that the token copies are not being "created" (text from Gatherer), but rather ETB from the stack as if being cast. Correct...? As far as I can tell, copying the storm trigger on Aeve is the only way to double the number of tokens, or am I missing any other ways to do it...? Thanks in advance! :)

veritablecvn on Paying equip cost with a …

3 days ago

Here is the relevant ruling on Mayhem Devil's Gatherer page:

5/3/2019. If a permanent is sacrificed to pay a cost of a spell or ability, Mayhem Devil’s ability will resolve before that spell or ability. Conversely, if a permanent is sacrificed during the resolution of a spell or ability, that spell or ability will finish resolving before Mayhem Devil’s ability is put onto the stack.

So Mayhem Devil's ability will trigger when you sacrifice the Treasure to add mana to your mana pool, not when you pay the mana to equip the Gorgon's Head.

Polaris on Who controls equipment abilities?

3 days ago

"You" always applies to the controller of the Equipment, and the controller is the one who activates the Equipment's abilities.

UNLESS

The ability is given to the creature. For example, Blinding Powder and Ceremonial Knife both give an activated or triggered ability to the equipped creature, meaning the creature is the source of the ability, and the controller of the creature uses it/gets the benefit. Your Blinding Powder attached to an opponent's creature will let them unattach it to prevent the damage. For these effects, look for this wording: Equipped creature has "this ability."

LunchBox1211 on Who controls equipment abilities?

3 days ago

There are several questions here. If need be, I can make multiple posts. For all of these, picture the following: I have a creature with an equipment. My opponent gains control of said creature, and attacks.

If I control an equipment that is attached to a creature an opponent controls, who controls attack/damage triggers and abilities that trigger at the beginning of combat? My guess would be that whoever owns the equipment, but I'm not entirely sure.

Who can activate Robe of Stars's Astral Projection if it is equipped to a creature an opponent controls? Again, I control the equipment, but not the creature.

How does Conqueror's Flail's 2nd ability work if I control it, but an opponent controls the creature it is attached to?

Cards that I am specifically wondering about: Argentum Armor, Explorer's Scope, Infiltration Lens, Sword of Fire and Ice as well as all the other "Sword of's",

freezerboy on Does and indestructible card:palisade giant …

3 days ago

Thanks Polaris, I'll keep that in mind.

Polaris on Paying equip cost with a …

3 days ago

No, because when you activate an ability you put it into the stack right then, same as casting a spell. It's the same as if you sacrificed a creature to cast Heartfire with Mayhem Devil in play. Devil triggers off the sacrifice, but the trigger isn't put on the stack until after you finish casting the spell or activating the equip ability, so the Mayhem Devil trigger will always resolve first, before the thing you sacrificed the Treasure to cast or activate.

phepa on Paying equip cost with a …

3 days ago

Let's say i have Mayhem Devil, Gorgon's Head and 1 Treasure token on the battlefield with 1 open red mana.

I want to equip Gorgon's Head on the Mayhem Devil, so i tap red land and sacrifice a tresure for another red mana so i can pay equip cost.

As far as i know, there is going to be 2 abilities on the stack (Equip an equipment and trigger from Mayhem Devil), so i can put the 1 damage trigger ability first on the stack and equip second, so when the 1 damage from [Mayhem Devil] is going to resolve it's going to be already damege with deathtouch.

Am i right with that?

phepa on Paying equip cost with a …

3 days ago

Let's say i have [Mayhem Devil], [Gorgon's Head] and 1 Treasure token on the battlefield with 1 open red mana.

I want to equip [Gorgon's Head] on the [Mayhem Devil], so i tap red land and sacrifice a tresure for another red mana so i can pay equip cost.

As far as i know, there is going to be 2 abilities on the stack (Equip an equipment and trigger from [Mayhem Devil]), so i can put the 1 damage trigger ability first on the stack and equip second, so when the 1 damage from [Mayhem Devil] is going to resolve it's going to be already damege with deathtouch.

Am i right with that?

Polaris on Does and indestructible card:palisade giant …

3 days ago

Oh, I should mention though that if an opponent can stop the damage to them with Teferi's Protection or something and you don't have a way to break the loop (sacrifice, bounce, etc), it'll get stuck and the game will end in a draw.

Polaris on Does and indestructible card:palisade giant …

4 days ago

Yes, that would work. Indestructible doesn't prevent damage from being done to it, so it will keep damaging everything, redirecting the damage done to you and your creatures to itself, and then triggering off that to damage everything again until you kill the table.

freezerboy on Does and indestructible card:palisade giant …

4 days ago

I'm playtesting a redirect damage jank deck and I came across this instance where I had Lightmine Field in play, and Palisade Giant equipped with a Darksteel Plate. If the giant attacked, taking the 1 damage, and I cast Arcbond on it, then would everyone at the table die other than me?

Polaris on Help me understand Sac outlets …

4 days ago

You'll kill the table regardless. Once something triggers, the trigger will resolve regardless of whether the permanent with the ability stays in play. It's you want, you can just hold priority (assuming it's your turn) and sacrifice all your creatures in a row, then watch the triggers all play out (at that point it doesn't matter if an opponent pulls out removal, unless you were counting on making extra tokens with Wilhelt, the Rotcleaver to have enough sac fodder to close the game.

The correct time to use Walking Ballista is in response to Phyrexian Ghoul, Mayhem Devil, or Bastion of Remembrance being cast. Once all three are in play, it's too late. If Mayhem Devil is in play, you respond to the cast by hitting it three times to kill it. This forces you to either lose the kill if Phyrexian Ghoul isn't in play yet, or lose half the damage because Bastion isn't in yet. Otherwise, you have to keep threatening the Ghoul to force you to sac stuff before Mayhem Devil resolves. You'll still lose most of your life, just not all of it.

Omniscience_is_life on Help me understand Sac outlets …

4 days ago

As long as your sac outlet can be activated at instant-speed (as is the case in your example), you can simply respond to your opponent activating his Ballista by sacrificing a zombie, in which case he will have another opportunity to activate Ballista, to which you can respond by sacrificing a zombie, etc. etc.

LordTourettes on Help me understand Sac outlets …

4 days ago

I'm trying to understand stack rules interactions and how priority works for death triggers.

I have Phyrexian Ghoul, Wilhelt, the Rotcleaver, Bastion of Remembrance and Mayhem Devil and 13 zombie tokens on the field. My opponents are at 20 life and I would like to sac my tokens to kill the table.

My opponent has a Walking Ballista with 12 counters on it. He would like to kill the Phyrexian Ghoul and Mayhem Devil.

Can I execute my win-con without being disrupted? At what point does my opponent respond to correctly stop me?

Polaris on Timing/interaction between Soul of the …

4 days ago

Yes. Since the triggers go on the stack at the same time, you can stack them how you like.

Gidgetimer on hivestone, frogify, cloudshredder sliver & …

4 days ago

If the boardstate is EXACTLY as you described, your opponent will have a 4/4 frog and it's controller's life total will be doubled when it deals combat damage to a player.

The reason for this is that an object's characteristics are applied in a series of layers and then within those layers in timestamp order. Since you played the Frogify after the Hivestone the creature gains the creature type sliver and then loses all creature types besides "frog". Cloudshredder Sliver will not apply since it isn't a sliver. The Celestial Mantle will actually have all of its effects no matter the timestamp because Frogify sets the base P/T and Mantle gives a buff instead of modifying base; and the life doubling ability is not granted to the creature.

CamraMaan on Timing/interaction between Soul of the …

4 days ago

Soul of the Harvest is on the battlefield, and I cast Mwonvuli Beast Tracker to search for a creature. Since both cards trigger on Mwonvuli entering the battlefield, can I put the Harvest trigger on the stack first, Mwonvuli's trigger second, resolve Mwonvuli to search for a creature, put it on top of my library, then draw that card from Soul of the Harvest's draw trigger?
Thanks in advance! :)

Swebb87 on hivestone, frogify, cloudshredder sliver & …

4 days ago

Hi. If an opponent has a creature in play which I enchant with a Frogify, however they have Cloudshredder Sliver in play and a Hivestone and then further enchant their creature with a Celestial Mantle does it become a flying sliver with +3/+3 and the effect of doubling the controller's life total in addition to being a 1/1 frog?

DragonWolf420 on Eidolon of the Great Revel

4 days ago

you probably won't even be "able" to bolt a goyf, but if you can then you probably should. wouldn't call it a "waste" when that goyf is about to become bigger than your burn spells can handle while smacking you for 4 or 5 damage every turn.

anywho, this isn't really a "rules" question and could have been asked in a more generic forum.

DragonWolf420 on Fell Specter

4 days ago

Polaris: lifelink is not limited to combat damage, it can apply to any damage. granted this situation is life loss and not damage, but i thought it worth mentioning that lifelink can apply to non-combat damage.

Omniscience_is_life on Isochron Scep+ Ruby Medallion

4 days ago

In the future, these sorts of questions can be asked in the "Rules Q&A" section at the top of the page (or in the drop-down list from the three lines on mobile). Thanks!

plakjekaas on Isochron Scep+ Ruby Medallion

4 days ago

The converted mana cost of a card, or "mana value", as it is called on more modern cards, is an inherent characteristic of the card, and doesn't change with how much mana you're actually spending to cast it.

A Negate is a card with a converted mana cost of 2. No amount of Glowriders or Sapphire Medallions can change that. It changes how much mana you pay to cast the card, but not the converted mana cost, which will always be 2.

smackjack on Isochron Scep+ Ruby Medallion

4 days ago

No. The cards still have converted mana cost 3,4,5,6 even tho their price is reduced by the medalion

BelTiamat on Isochron Scep+ Ruby Medallion

4 days ago

First time poster. I'll try my best.

Can isochron scepter Isochron Scepter copy red instants with 3, 4, 5, 6 casting if I have ruby medallions Ruby Medallion

Omniscience_is_life on Eidolon of the Great Revel …

5 days ago

Even though the instant or sorcery is what's causing Eidolon to trigger, it's ultimately the Eidolon itself that's dealing the damage. All Soulfire Grand Master gives lifelink to is the actual instant/sorcery, and lifelink as an ability only causes life to be gained when the source that has it deals damage. Hope this clears up any possible source of confusion you may have had ;)

Omniscience_is_life on Can Jodah freecast a chosen …

5 days ago

Yes, this is a popular interaction that can also function with Fist of Suns. Beware effects like Feroz's Ban--they will require you to pay the extra amount no matter what alternative cost you have active.

TypicalTimmy on Can Jodah freecast a chosen …

5 days ago

If you have both Jodah, Archmage Eternal and Morophon, the Boundless out on the field together, do they interact accordingly?

For example, suppose we choose God as the tribe. Morophon reduces their costs by WUBRG.

But Jodah says we can pay WUBRG instead of their casting costs.

If we elect to pay WUBRG thanks to Jodah, but Morophon reduces by WUBRG, does this mean that they can now be cast effectively for free?

Polaris on Eidolon of the Great Revel …

5 days ago

Not with Soulfire Grand Master, no. Soulfire gives lifelink to instant and sorcery spells, but the source of the damage is Eidolon of the Great Revel, a creature. Giving Eidolon lifelink somehow (Unexpected Fangs?) will work the way you're hoping here.

9-lives on Eidolon of the Great Revel …

5 days ago

If i have both Eidolon of the Great Revel and Soulfire Grand Master on the battlefield, and Eidolon of the Great Revel triggers on the opponent, would i gain that much life? Also, if I trigger it, will it not give me back the same amount of life I lost?

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5 days ago

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5 days ago

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