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musej on Doom Blade v Hornet Nest

26 minutes ago

I was playing in a Commander stye game recently, and I cast Doom Blade on a Hornet Nest. What then occurs? If Hornet's Nest is dealt lethal damage it seems it would then create two Green Insect Creature tokens with flying.

If not, the question would then be how does Doom Blade deal damage? Any clarification would be much appreciated.

Neotrup on warteye witch board wipes & …

4 hours ago

Correct, if multiple creatures die at the same time, Warteye Witch triggers that many times. Once you find a card you want to keep, you can effectively skip the remaining triggers, unless you really want to look at that card again.

Swebb87 on warteye witch board wipes & …

5 hours ago

Warteye Witch states scry 1 if she or another creature dies. If a board wipe resolves and kills 10 creatures, do you just scry 1 ten times. Which if you want to keep the first card, you would just choose to keep that card on top 10 times?

Neotrup on Timing of equip with Valduk's …

14 hours ago

Generally no. Valduk, Keeper of the Flame creates the tokens at the beginning of combat step. It's too late to activate equip abilities as they can only be activated during your main phase while the stack is empty. If you control Leonin Shikari, you'd be able to equip after making the token, due to removing that timing restriction. Some equipment like Sparring Collar have an ability that allows you to move it without using the equip ability.

CamraMaan on Timing of equip with Valduk's …

14 hours ago

While Valduk, Keeper of the Flame normally is the one getting equipped, I'm curious if I can equip Grafted Wargear on one of the 3/1 elementals he creates? When they hit the battlefield is it too late to use an equip ability?

CamraMaan on Red damage doublers/boosters with spells …

14 hours ago

Thanks, makes sense! And yeah, oops, Gratuitous Violence was not the doubler I was looking for! Ha!

Polaris on Does manifesting Phage with Scroll …

16 hours ago

Another way to put it is Phage never actually enters the battlefield. A 2/2 colorless creature with the morph ability and nothing else entered the battlefield. It later became Phage but was already in play.

Caerwyn on Who gets control?

18 hours ago

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Caerwyn on Sydri and Skyclave Relic copy …

18 hours ago

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Caerwyn on Equipped creature question

18 hours ago

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Noire_Samhain on Does manifesting Phage with Scroll …

18 hours ago

You do not lose either way. Manifesting/playing a morph card upside-down counts the card as a separate entity from its front. Flipping them face up does not count as them entering the battlefield.

Genderfluidia on How much damage is dealt …

18 hours ago

I thought so. Thanks!

d_iros on Does manifesting Phage with Scroll …

19 hours ago

Just not sure what happens when you manifest Phage the Untouchable with Scroll of Fate since she's coming in face down as a manifest. Would I lose the game right there? Would I lose the game when she's flipped up?

Xianling69 on How much damage is dealt …

19 hours ago

the amount of damage a creature takes is not limited by its toughness. otherwise Brash Taunter would be an entirely pointless 5 mana rare.

Genderfluidia on How much damage is dealt …

21 hours ago

Suppose I have a Brash Taunter and I have it fight some big hydra. How much damage am I redirecting? I had a friend tell me it would be just 1, because that's how much health he has, but I think he's wrong.

Swebb87 on rin and seri, inseparable equipped …

1 day ago

Yeah I'm only going to attacking those nasty peeps I'm playing against. That's great thanks

Neotrup on rin and seri, inseparable equipped …

1 day ago

Assuming the player you target is an opponent, yes, it will trigger twice.

Swebb87 on rin and seri, inseparable equipped …

1 day ago

Rin and Seri, Inseparable equipped with Illusionist's Bracers with a Chandra's Incinerator on the battlefield. If I activate the Rin and Seri, Inseparable with the bracers equipped, will Chandra's Incinerator trigger twice if I target a player with both activations? Meaning in total I would get 4 lots of damage, two from the Cat/Dog and two from the incinerator??

PhotogenicParasympathetic on Who gets control?

1 day ago

Small additional note: As has been mentioned, state-based actions aren't really coming into play here, this is more about time stamps.

However, when SBA's do come into play, it is not possible for a player to respond. For example, you cannot sacrifice a creature that has taken lethal damage to Ashnod's Altar.

Neotrup on Alternate casting costs without paying …

1 day ago

No, when you cast a spell without paying it's mana cost, you cannot choose to pay an alternate cost. Casting Winds of Abandon using Mizzix's Mastery will not be overloaded, you will have to choose a target and cannot exile all creatures you don't control.

When you cast a spell without paying it's mana cost, you can pay additional costs though. So you could pay the kicker on Bloodchief's Thirst to destroy any creature. You would need to actually pay the cost, it wouldn't be included in the "without paying it's mana cost." If there is a mandatory additional cost (such as Village Rites), you would be required to pay it.

From the Gatherer entry for Mizzix's Mastery: 11/4/2015 If you cast a spell "without paying its mana cost," you can’t pay any alternative costs. You can, however, pay additional costs, such as kicker costs. If the card has any mandatory additional costs, you must pay those.

SirGrodus on Alternate casting costs without paying …

1 day ago

The question is a bit poorly phrased but this is what I'm referring to. Can I cast an overloaded Winds of Abandon without paying its mana cost after exiling it with Mizzix's Mastery?

Polaris on Stonecoil Serpent

2 days ago

To further supplement dragonstryke58's answer:

It might be useful to cover what protection won't stop.

It can be destroyed or take -X/-X effects from things that don't target it, so Kaya's Wrath or Ruinous Ultimatum will still destroy it.

It's not immune to things multicolored cards have its controller do, so Doom Foretold can make you sacrifice it.

The damage-prevention part of protection can be circumvented by cards that stop damage prevention, so if your Serpent blocked a Leyline Prowler (not the other way around, because protection would stop Leyline Prowler from blocking Stonecoil Serpent) while they also had Questing Beast in play, your Serpent would still take damage and get killed by the deathtouch effect.

Neotrup on Urban Utopia compared to Nylea's …

2 days ago

Ninja'd. I did want to add that having basic land types can be both upside (if you have cards like Gaea's Might or Chained to the Rocks) or downside (if your opponent has cards like Boggart Arsonists or Boil).

Polaris on Urban Utopia compared to Nylea's …

2 days ago

To clarify one thing first: Nylea's Presence gives all basic land types but does not make the card a basic land. Similar to how Ketria Triome is an Forest Island Mountain, a land enchanted by Nylea's Presence will be a Forest Island Mountain Plains Swamp in addition to its other types.

To answer your main question: most of the time this won't matter, but if you have cards that care about having certain land types (such as Evasive Action or Corrupt, it will count for those. If neither player has cards that care about basic land types, though, Nylea's Presence and Urban Utopia will function almost identically.

9-lives on Urban Utopia compared to Nylea's …

2 days ago

What is the difference between Nylea's Presence and Urban Utopia? Does the fact that it makes the card all basic lands better than if the enchanted land simply said 'tap for any color'? Generally basic lands are less likely to be removed from the game, no?

Neotrup on Red damage doublers/boosters with spells …

2 days ago

They each choose individually, though in the case you listed, there's no choice to be made. Sizzle deals 5 damage to each opponent, as Gratuitous Violence only effects damage dealt by creatures.

A good way to look at this is what the effects are doing. Let's say you have Torbran and Furnace of Rath out. They say that when damage would be dealt to an player you add two/double it. This is replacing damaging a single player (don't worry, it still applies to each of them), it's not replacing the whole "3 damage to each opponent." If Torbran said "If a red source you control would deal damage to one or more opponents and/or permanents they control..." it may work differently, but the rules would likely need to be updated to support such formatting.

CamraMaan on Does Isochron Scepter trigger Aria …

2 days ago

Much appreciated! :)

CamraMaan on Red damage doublers/boosters with spells …

2 days ago

So I understand that if I attack with Torbran, Thane of Red Fell, with Gratuitous Violence on the battlefield, my opponent gets to choose the order in which the +2 and doubling occur. But what about when I have those two out and cast Sizzle with three opponents? Does each opponent choose the order, or do I pick one order for all? Obviously they should likely all choose the same order if up to them (double first), but since it's affecting multiple players, I don't know if the order of effects can be different for two players or not, as it would make sense that they all receive the same damage by default, not choice. Anyway, appreciate the help! :)

Omniscience_is_life on Targeted removal and blink effects

2 days ago

It's considered a new permanent, and the removal spell doesn't see it as the same thing it targeted. So the non-angel creature is not Beasted

Monomanamaniac on Targeted removal and blink effects

2 days ago

Pretty simple but if someone casts a Beast Within on my random important non-angel creature, i flash in Restoration Angel and exile the targeted creature. When it confess back into play is it still being targeted by the removal, or would be be treated as a new object?

dragonstryke58 on Stonecoil Serpent

2 days ago

To further supplement Omniscience_is_life's answer:

The see what effects any protection ability covers, you can use the acronym DEBT:

  • D - Damage
  • E - Enchant/Equip
  • B - Blocking
  • T - Targeting

Stonecoil Serpent's protection ability will protect it from 1) Damage from a multicolored source, 2) Enchanted or equipped with a multicolored permanent, 3) being Blocked by a multicolored creature, and 4) being Targeted by a multicolored spell or ability.

Omniscience_is_life on Stonecoil Serpent

2 days ago

It cannot be blocked, targeted, or enchanted/equipped by a multicolored permanent/spell, in ay capacity

Wbg1415 on Stonecoil Serpent

2 days ago

Cards like Stonecoil Serpent states it has protection from multicolor, does this mean it's protected from everything multicolor including creatures, instants, sorcerys, or abilities from a multicolor source?

Rhadamanthus on Squall Drifter

3 days ago

It can be activated on anyone's turn. In general, activated abilities can be used at any time unless they specifically say otherwise (for example: Hell's Caretaker).

Wbg1415 on Squall Drifter

3 days ago

Can Squall Drifter ability only be activated on its controllers turn, or can it be activated on someone else's turn as well?

bonettig on Can I trigger 3 times …

3 days ago

Thanks!

Neotrup on Can I trigger 3 times …

3 days ago

One time. Ghost of Ramirez DePietro triggers off combat damage, and Kediss, Emberclaw Familiar's ability causes him to deal noncombat damage, otherwise it would trigger itself forming a loop.

Rhadamanthus on Does Isochron Scepter trigger Aria …

3 days ago

Under the current rules (it wasn't always this way), Collision / Colossus has a converted mana cost of 4 and can't be imprinted on Isochron Scepter. See below for details.

To your question: a copy of a split card will also be split, and as you cast the copy you choose which side to case. So if you had Wax / Wane imprinted on the Scepter, you would get to choose each time. If you make a copy of the spell on the stack after it's been cast, it will only be the half that was chosen.

708.4 In every zone except the stack, the characteristics of a split card are those of its two halves combined. This is a change from previous rules.

708.4b The mana cost of a split card is the combined mana costs of its two halves. A split card’s colors and converted mana cost are determined from its combined mana cost. An effect that refers specifically to the symbols in a split card’s mana cost sees the separate symbols rather than the whole mana cost.

Example: Assault / Battery’s mana cost is . It’s a red and green card with a converted mana cost of 5. If you cast Assault, the resulting spell is a red spell with a converted mana cost of 1.

bonettig on Can I trigger 3 times …

3 days ago

Hi! If I deal combat damage to an opponent with Ghost of Ramirez DePietro in a 4-players game and I have Kediss, Emberclaw Familiar on the battlefield, how many times will trigger? One or three?

Thanks!

CamraMaan on Does Isochron Scepter trigger Aria …

3 days ago

Or is each half of the physical card considered to be its own card, like a two virtual cards?

CamraMaan on Does Isochron Scepter trigger Aria …

3 days ago

Much appreciated!

Similarly, if I imprint Isochron with Collision / Colossus can I choose to cast either half each time? It says card, not spell, so I'm assuming I would get to choose...?

griffstick on Who gets control?

3 days ago

Here's a better one. You cast Control Magic and steal Tuvasa the Sunlit. Then pass turn. Your opponent plays Control Magic on Tuvasa the Sunlit to get it back. This works because of time stamp order. Even though both cards say you control it the player who put the control magic on tuvasa last will gain control of it. Since neither things can happen simultaneously the time stamp rule is applied.

That's just an example so you can understand time stamp.

If you do the same thing and your opponent uses Grab the Reins to gain control of it, you don not get it back immediately just because you have an aura on it that says you gain control of it. The opponent with gain control of it until the effect of the spell Grab the Reins wears off. Then you'll get it back. He or she can sac it before you get it back. Sacrificing creatures to the altar can be done without using the stack because it's a mana ability.

griffstick on Who gets control?

3 days ago

Yea time stamp

Omniscience_is_life on Sydri and Skyclave Relic copy …

3 days ago

Huh. Thanks Neotrup, fully my mistake

Neotrup on Sydri and Skyclave Relic copy …

3 days ago

Tokens can have mana cost. The specific rule that states it's possible is the one that says they normally don't:

202.1b Some objects have no mana cost. This normally includes all land cards, any other cards that have no mana symbols where their mana cost would appear, tokens (unless the effect that creates them specifies otherwise), and nontraditional Magic cards. Having no mana cost represents an unpayable cost (see rule 118.6). Note that lands are played without paying any costs (see rule 305, "Lands").

So the question becomes, does Skyclave Relic specify that the tokens have a mana cost? The token is a copy of Skyclave Relic, so it has all copiable values of the original permanent as defined by the relevant rule:

706.2. When copying an object, the copy acquires the copiable values of the original object's characteristics and, for an object on the stack, choices made when casting or activating it (mode, targets, the value of X, whether it was kicked, how it will affect multiple targets, and so on). The copiable values are the values derived from the text printed on the object (that text being name, mana cost, color indicator, card type, subtype, supertype, rules text, power, toughness, and/or loyalty), as modified by other copy effects, by its face-down status, and by "as . . . enters the battlefield" and "as . . . is turned face up" abilities that set power and toughness (and may also set additional characteristics). Other effects (including type-changing and text-changing effects), status, and counters are not copied.

TriusMalarky on Who gets control?

3 days ago

Beguiler is basically like another Volition Reins. Whichever one happened last is the one that is applied.

Think of it like this: layers of a cake. When you play the creature, you have a layer of cake. Then, Bill cast Reins on that creature -- Bill adds his slice. Since Bill's slice is on top, he gets it. Then Tim casts Bond on it, so he has it until end of turn, at which point Bill gets it. Then Jake Beguiles it, so he controls it.

It's just whichever one happened last, as they are all 'control' abilities.

dirkinzs on Who gets control?

3 days ago

Okay, That makes sense. Then how about something more permanent. Let's say I've again used Volition Reins to take a creature but an opponent then uses Beguiler of Wills to take it from me. Because the beguiler happened later, does that mean the opponent keeps the creature, or does the enchantment's passive "You control enchanted creature" return it to me?

TriusMalarky on Who gets control?

3 days ago

Actually, layers. Time is more relevant, so because Bond has been played after Reins, then the person who controlled Bond would control said permanent during that turn, but that turn only.

Omniscience_is_life on Sydri and Skyclave Relic copy …

3 days ago

All tokens have a Converted Mana Cost of 0, regardless of how they were created. The animated Relic would indeed die when state-based actions were next checked.

To link a card, you can put double brackets (these guys > [, ]) on either side of the card's name.

Last_Laugh on Who gets control?

3 days ago

Correct. The entire premise of Marchesa, the Black Rose theft decks is to steal until eot, attack with it so it gets a +1+1 counter, then sac it before eot so it comes back at eot and it's permanently yours.