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lXTensionXl on Will Copying a Spell Cause …

5 days ago

Gidgetimer Thanks a lot for the explanation. Makes a ton more sense to me now.

Have a good one :)

Gidgetimer on Will Copying a Spell Cause …

5 days ago

Oh, I see where the confusion is. I didn't say the combination of the -2, Lightning Bolt, and Fork gave three triggers. I said that copying Lightning Bolt with the -2 gave two triggers. Then I said that copying Lightning Bolt via Fork gives three total triggers. They were two different thoughts explaining Ral, Storm Conduit triggers based on how you copy a spell. I guess I could have been more clear by using a different ability, like Lithoform Engine, as an example. This would have made it more clear that there wasn't an assumption of the -2 in both scenarios.

You are correct about there being four triggers with the -2 AND Fork. Copies of spells are not cast, they are simply created on the stack. Some abilities, like on Isochron Scepter, let you make copies of cards not on the stack and then cast them. These abilities will trigger Ral from casting, but they will not trigger it from copying the card (since what was copied was not a spell.)

lXTensionXl on Will Copying a Spell Cause …

6 days ago

Gidgetimer I was going off your 1st response where you said the combination of his -2, Lightning Bolt, and Fork would only trigger his passive 3 times. I'm still pretty new to MTG, and thought that it should trigger his passive 4 times. I was thinking possibly a 5th because of when you get the copy of Lightning Bolt from casting Fork, and then you cast it. But I guess it wouldn't be considered a cast if it was a copy that was created and placed on the stack?

So in my mind, it would be:

  1. Active his -2 ability
  2. Cast Lightning Bolt (1st trigger)
  3. A copy is made from his -2 ability (2nd trigger)
  4. Cast Fork that targets Lightning Bolt (3rd trigger)
  5. A copy is made of Lightning Bolt by Fork (4th trigger)
  6. My questionable 5th trigger was then "casting" Lightning Bolt after the copy is made

Gidgetimer on Mirrorwing dragon copying a spell …

6 days ago

Yes, you will still get the copies. The spell is not targeted by Mirrorwing Dragon's ability and will not therefore fizzle. The ability will require information from the game (the spell's copiable characteristics) and will use last known information since the spell is no longer in the expected zone.

AgileFlame on Mirrorwing dragon copying a spell …

6 days ago

Hi there,

If I cast an int or sorc spell that triggers Mirrorwing Dragon's ability and that spell gets countered before mirrorwing's ability resolves, does it still get copied?

Thanks.

Gidgetimer on Will Copying a Spell Cause …

6 days ago

None of the scenarios above asked about the -2 and Fork. This scenario would indeed trigger Ral, Storm Conduit 4 times. (casting Lightning Bolt and Fork and copies made from -2 and from Fork).

I'm not sure where you are getting five triggers from. Are you wondering about -2, Fork, and Riku of Two Reflections? Because at that point the best strategic choice is just to copy the Fork instead of the Lightning Bolt with Riku and just make infinite copies by forking your Fork repeatedly.

lXTensionXl on Will Copying a Spell Cause …

6 days ago

Gidgetimer But wait a sec, wouldn't it trigger 4 times?

Scenario: You trigger Ral, Storm Conduit's -2 ability. Then you cast Lightning Bolt (1st trigger). The -2 ability triggers because of casting Lightning Bolt (2nd trigger). Then you cast Fork (3rd trigger). Lastly, Fork creates a copy of Lightning Bolt (4th trigger). And when you cast the copy of Lightning Bolt, wouldn't that actually be a 5th trigger? Man I hope someone can clear this up for me lol

Rhadamanthus on Is kicker considered a part …

1 week ago

Yes that works. Kicker is an optional additional cost to cast the spell, so cost reduction effects and mana that can only be used to cast particular kinds of spells can be applied to Kicker costs.

Rhadamanthus on Interaction between Manabond & Sire …

1 week ago

The current Oracle text of Manabond has been updated to say: "At the beginning of your end step, you may reveal your hand and put all land cards from it onto the battlefield. If you do, discard your hand."

So this means Manabond and Sire Of Insanity trigger at the same time and the answer depends on who controls them. If you control both then you get to choose what order to put them onto the stack. If your opponent controls Sire then the Manabond trigger will go on first because you're the active player, then the Sire trigger will go on top of it, meaning the Sire trigger will resolve first.

Rhadamanthus on Can a tap target creature …

1 week ago

Yes, they can do that. After your Gandalf resolves, each player will get another chance at priority to take an action before the game will continue moving forward. The game will only advance to the next step if each player chooses to pass instead of taking another action.

Rhadamanthus on Can Ulalek copy it's own …

1 week ago

Bravet: Since it seems like you got a satisfactory answer to your question and there don't seem to be any more follow-ups or corrections that need to be made, I marked it as the "Accepted answer" so this topic can move out of the list of unanswered questions. In the future you can take care of this yourself using the "Mark as Answer" button on the response that you feel is the most helpful answer to your question.

ContraMundi on Can Ulalek copy it's own …

1 week ago

As far as I m aware that clause was put there because a lot of Eldrazi have cast triggers which won t trigger when you copy it. But the second part of teh text is a failsafe so also those cast triggers will be copied.

keizerbuns on Is kicker considered a part …

1 week ago

Is kicker considered a part of the casted spells mana cost, and can cards that help reduce the cost of or help pay for the cost of a spell be used to pay for the kicker costs?

In particular I'm curious about how Eldrazi Temple works with Wastescape Battlemage. If I declare intent to pay the kicker costs for Battlemage as I'm casting it, can I use Eldrazi Temple's second mana ability to help pay for the colorless man portion of its kicker cost?

Thanks in advance!

ContraMundi on Interaction between Manabond & Sire …

1 week ago

Hi, I was wondering if I can still use the Manabond effect and play all my lands if there is a Sire Of Insanity on the field?

Or does that not work because beginning of the end step is before the discard phase?

The phases are unclear to me here.

Thank you!

Hitscan_Dan on Can a tap target creature …

1 week ago

An opponent declares a creature as an attack against me. When i receive priority i cast a creature spell with flash like Gandalf the White to block. Can my opponent then cast a tap target creature spell like Take into Custody before i get the chance to declare my creature as a blocker?

Gidgetimer on Gitrog, Ravenous ride and MDFC

1 week ago

Front has 1 black triangle. Back has 2 white triangles.

Chino90 on Gitrog, Ravenous ride and MDFC

1 week ago

Thank you very much for the answer! How do I know which one is the front face of the MDFC?

Gidgetimer on Gitrog, Ravenous ride and MDFC

1 week ago

You will not be able to put the back face lands into the battlefield off of The Gitrog, Ravenous Ride.

The Gitrog, Ravenous Ride allows you to "put land cards from your hand onto the battlefield" not "play lands". The difference between the wording is slight, but important.

In all zones except the stack and the battlefield MDFCs only have the characteristics of their front face. MDFCs like Disciple of Freyalise  Flip can not be put onto the battlefield from The Gitrog, Ravenous Ride's ability. MDFCs that are lands on both sides allow you to only put the front face in off of The Gitrog, Ravenous Ride (Darkbore Pathway  Flip could be put into play, but Slitherbore Pathway  Flip could not).

If an effect were allowing you to play lands from somewhere besides your hand, or allowing you to play extra lands then you can put any face of a MDFC that is a land into the battlefield.

Chino90 on Gitrog, Ravenous ride and MDFC

1 week ago

Can I use The Gitrog, Ravenous Ride's saddle ability resolution to put MDFC (such as Disciple of Freyalise  Flip as lands onto the battlefield?

Poly_raptor on Clue Food Treasure token synergies

1 week ago

Rhadamanthus - Sorry, I thought I had replied to this and done so already! Thank you.

Gidgetimer - thank you for answering, that makes perfect sense.

vic on Can a creature's own state-based …

1 week ago

Rhadamanthus Excellent. Well done.

Noire_Samhain on Can Zur, Eternal Schemer’s ability …

1 week ago

It would fizzle, as the enchantment turning into a creature and therefore getting Hexproof from Zur makes it an invalid target. The stack resolves in reverse order, and targets are checked when it's cast and when the spell finally resolves.

MartinEMcArthur on Can Zur, Eternal Schemer’s ability …

1 week ago

Let’s say I have Zur out already, and then I play Authority of the Consuls. An opponent targets the enchantment with Return to Nature. If I play Zur’s ability to turn the enchantment into a hexproof creature in response to that, would Return to Nature fizzle out?

Rhadamanthus on Can a creature's own state-based …

1 week ago

It will just get 2 counters. Master Biomancer's ability is a replacement effect (uses "as/with/instead/prevent") that modifies how other creatures enter the battlefield. When you're determining how many counters Imperious Perfect should enter the battlefield with, it isn't yet on the battlefield, so Master Biomancer just has 2 power.

If Master Biomancer's ability was a triggered ability (always starts with "when/whenever/at") then this would work, because Imperious Perfect would actually be on the battlefield when you're figuring out how many counters to add, but that's not the case here.

Bravet on Can Ulalek copy it's own …

1 week ago

wallisface Yep yep, I put a bunch of flash support (Liberator, Urza's Battlethopter, Leyline of Anticipation, etc) in the deck for that reason

vic on Can a creature's own state-based …

1 week ago

I control a Master Biomancer and I play an Imperious Perfect. Can I make the Perfect come in with 3 counters? (Boosting the Biomancer first, receiving counters second)

wallisface on Can Ulalek copy it's own …

1 week ago

From how I read this you will be able to cast an eldrazi spell, and then before Ulaleks triggered ability resolves, cast another Eldrazi spell and use this second Ulalek trigger to copy the first.

However, do note that as the overwhelming majority of Eldrazi spells are sorcery-speed, this interaction is likely to happen extremely infrequently.

Bravet on Can Ulalek copy it's own …

1 week ago

So I was looking at Ulalek, Fused Atrocity's ability and noticed the "copy all other activated and triggered abilities" part of it. When it says "other" does that mean other instances of the ability? So I can copy other instances of the ability further down the stack if I cast 2 Eldrazi spells? Or does it mean other abilities that are not this block of text? So there is no way for Ulalek to copy it's own ability.

Rhadamanthus on How does the ever changing …

1 week ago

Vampire-Dane will trigger again. Even though Dane is becoming a copy of Welcoming Vampire again, the new copy effect is overwriting all the "old" characteristics with a "new" set of characteristics, which means Dane has a new instance of the Vampire's triggered ability that hasn't triggered yet this turn.

doodkyle on How does the ever changing …

1 week ago

Let's say I have The Ever-Changing 'Dane and Welcoming Vampire on the battle field at the same time. 1. I use dane's ability to sac and copy the vampire. 2. I reanimate the vampire. 3. Dane (as a copy of the vampire) triggers, then I draw a card 4. I use dane to sac and copy the vampire. 5. I reanimate the vampire.

After the second reanimation, does dane trigger again since he is technically a copy of a different welcoming vampire, or not since he already triggered once?

Crow_Umbra on Mutate creature as commander

1 week ago

Here's the relevant text from the Mutate MtG Wiki page, plus the linked source in the Wiki from the Ikoria release notes:

"Mutate represents an alternative cost. To determine the total cost of a spell, start with the mana cost or alternative cost you're paying (such as the alternative cost of mutate), add any cost increases, then apply any cost reductions. The converted mana cost of the spell remains unchanged, no matter what the total cost to cast it was and no matter whether an alternative cost was paid. [7] "

Crow_Umbra on Mutate creature as commander

1 week ago

Since Mutate is an alternate casting cost, commander tax still applies to it. I used to play both Brokkos, Apex of Forever and Vadrok, Apex of Thunder a couple of years ago. Brokkos is able to get around it a bit better with his Mutate from GY ability.

babos86 on Mutate creature as commander

1 week ago

If you have a commander with mutate (for example Vadrok, Apex of Thunder) and it's in play. When for any reason it returns on your commander zone does the mutate cost also increase by 2 mana so you can play it again or only the cost to play it as a creature increases by 2 mana?

Yesterday on Can Saga cards that are …

1 week ago

Cheers.

Neotrup on Can Saga cards that are …

1 week ago

The True Scriptures  Flip will still have all its abilities, meaning they will trigger when lore counters are added. No longer being an enchantment does mean its no longer a saga, so it doesn't enter with counters and does not get a counter during your precombat main phase, which is the issue you ran into, but the abilities are still there.

Yesterday on Can Saga cards that are …

1 week ago

I was playing on Arena and had my Reezug, the Bonecobbler reanimate a Sheoldred  Flip.

I then foolishly activated Sheoldred's ability to exile itself and return transformed as an artifact with lore abilities, which didn't put any counters on itself because it wasn't a Saga. So it didn't do anything.

Now, I'm not 100% on this following part. Arena normally greys out text that isn't currently applicable to the permanent it's printed on. For example, a Sheoldred that is an artifact and not a creature has its creature stat line greyed out. I think it also has its menace ability greyed out. And I think that the backside of the card did not have its lore abilities greyed out, implying that they would still work if they were triggered somehow. I think.

Regardless, my question is, would that nonenchantment artifact The True Scriptures  Flip (perpetualised or otherwise) trigger its abilities if a lore counter were put onto it via Nesting Grounds or somethibg like that?

Rhadamanthus on Clue Food Treasure token synergies

2 weeks ago

Poly_raptor: An answer to your question has been up for a while. Since there don't seem to be any follow-ups or corrections that need to be made, I marked it as the "Accepted answer" so this topic can move out of the list of unanswered questions. In the future you can take care of this yourself using the "Mark as Answer" button on the response that you feel is the most helpful answer to your question.

Rhadamanthus on Casting X-spells from exile but …

2 weeks ago

Yes. If the effect just says "you may play/cast it" and nothing else then that means you have to pay for it as usual and can choose a value for X. If the effect says "you may play/cast it without paying its mana cost" then you can't pay for any part of the mana cost and any X in the mana cost defaults to zero, unless it's defined by some other part of the spell's effect (I think Spoils of War might be the only example of this in the game).

DreadKhan on Casting X-spells from exile but …

2 weeks ago

If you cast a Torment and have to pay for it you can choose to pay X on top of . I think it's when you cast without paying that X = 0.

Quickspell on Casting X-spells from exile but …

2 weeks ago

I’m pretty sure the answer is yes, but I need confirmation.

If I exile a spell with X in the mana cost, say Torment of Hailfire with, say, Wrenn's Resolve, am I able to cast Torment AND pay for X?

Gidgetimer on Caesar and Combat Celebrant Sequencing

2 weeks ago

The second part of Combat Celebrant's ability is a reflexive trigger. It is created and immediately checked as you are attacking. You can stack the reflexive trigger and Caesar, Legion's Emperor trigger in either order since both have triggered since the last time triggers were put on the stack. This allows you to untap and attack with the Caesar tokens if you would like.

KASTAWEI on Caesar and Combat Celebrant Sequencing

2 weeks ago

If I have Combat Celebrant and Caesar, Legion's Emperor on the field and attack, is it possible to sequence the untap from exerting Celebrant so I can attack with the soldiers created by Caesar? The wording of "as it attacks" vs "whenever you attack" is tripping me up.

Rhadamanthus on How do the new flip …

2 weeks ago

Neotrup's answer is correct due to the following rule (specifically, the second sentence highlighted below in bold). I have changed the "Accepted answer" to reflect this.

712.14a If a spell or ability puts a transforming double-faced card onto the battlefield “transformed” or “converted,” it enters the battlefield with its back face up. If a player is instructed to put a card that isn’t a transforming double-faced card onto the battlefield transformed or converted, that card stays in its current zone.

Neotrup on How do the new flip …

2 weeks ago

Sea-Dasher Octopus will not return to the battlefield and will remain in exile. The transform effect will try to return Sea-Dasher Octopus to the battlefield transformed, but since it is a single-face card it cannot and will leave it in exile.

Gidgetimer on Clue Food Treasure token synergies

3 weeks ago

Replacement effects (which is the type of ability that all three of these are) do not trigger and do not use the stack. They simply change the outcome of a game event and can only apply to a given event once. Since you are the affected player you will get to choose the order in which the abilities apply.

Assuming that you want as many tokens as possible the optimal way to apply the effects is going to be PT & CotPP (in either order) and then AM since this will turn the clue into 2 clues and a food and then those three will be replaced with a food, a clue, and a treasure each netting you 3 each of food, treasures, and clues.

AM and then PT & CotPP (in either order) will result in 2 food, 1 treasure, and 2 clues. The upkeep clue turns into one of each token and then an additional clue and an additional food are added.

PT, AM, CotPP results in 2 food, 2 treasure, 3 clues.

CotPP, AM, PT results in 3 food, 2 treasure, 2 clues.

Poly_raptor on Clue Food Treasure token synergies

3 weeks ago

I have recently started building a new deck. It is a Morska, Undersea Sleuth deck.

I have so far been playtesting it on here and then today playtested it in a real 4 man pod with some playtest cards.

I have narrowed it down to be a Krark-Clan Ironworks + Myr Retriever + Scrap Trawler combo deck.

Whilst fine tuning the list I noticed a potential combo that I am unsure about. I am curious to know how the following three cards interact.

I understand the replacement effect between Peregrin Took & Academy Manufactor, but what happens if you throw the third card into the mix?

Am I right in thinking the following:

Clue enters. PT & COTPP both trigger. I stack & resolve PT. AM sees this and multiplies the additional clue to make a food & treasure. Do I then get a second replacement effect from COTPP which makes an extra clue & triggers AM again, which then creates a loop?

Is this an infinite loop that would present a draw unless I could removed a combo piece?

seshiro_of_the_orochi on How do the new flip …

3 weeks ago

Yes, she would. They pile would get exiled by Tamiyo's ability. She'll be returned as a planeswalker, and each mutation would be returned as a creature.

skoobysnackz on How do the new flip …

3 weeks ago

So they would come back as separate permanents, but would Tamiyo still transform?

seshiro_of_the_orochi on How do the new flip …

3 weeks ago

If you flicker a mutate pile, each card in it will return as a seperate creature.

I think this will answer all follow-up questions ;)