hootsnag on Jhoira Draw Fast Win
1 week ago
Tolaria West either comes into play tapped or takes 2 blue and 1 colorless to transmute. It just takes too long I think. I'm trying to speed this deck up as much as possible. I can see edge use cases for it but overall it will probably slow me down more than just a regular Island or fetch land. Gamble is one of those cards I just can't run. I wished the discard wasn't random lol.
SufferFromEDHD on Jhoira Draw Fast Win
1 week ago
More draw?! You are in Izzet. Lots of Wheel effects to choose from.
You will usually have a full hand... Gamble?
Tolaria West agree to disagree. Grabs whatever jewelry you need!
hootsnag on Jhoira Draw Fast Win
1 week ago
Actually. I think I will add Paradigm Shift and take out Mystic Forge for it.
hootsnag on Jhoira Draw Fast Win
1 week ago
I cut out as many nonbasic lands as feasible so I could cycle basic lands out faster with fetch lands and deplete the total number of lands in my deck quicker. Tolaria West isn't that helpful. I don't really need any zero cast spells. I put Muddle the Mixture in to help me find Mana Severance faster. Flash enabling cards aren't that useful either. If anything, I want a bit more draw and search. I just don't know what to remove and all of the remaining search cards have huge downsides. I'm trying to run the deck with as few non-artifact cards as possible also.
SufferFromEDHD on Jhoira Draw Fast Win
1 week ago
Definitely risky but raw power and style. Worst case scenario it's Chrome Mox fodder. Similar to Mana Severance where it is 1 card setting you up for the win. Maybe Leyline of Anticipation or Borne Upon a Wind?
Tolaria West transmute rules
Reliquary Tower useful
hootsnag on Jhoira Draw Fast Win
1 week ago
I saw this and decided it was a bit too risky to run. If I don't draw well or find the right cards quick enough, it's a dead slot unfortunately. I slimmed down to only win conditions and search cards instead.
SufferFromEDHD on Jhoira Draw Fast Win
1 week ago
Paradigm Shift speeds up the clock on your win conditions
ark186413 on Orzhov ally
1 week ago
Hey guys been out of the game for 5yrs kinda got back into when Spider-Man came out. When avatar came up, revamped the ol ally deck.
scotchtapedsleeves on Guess Who's Back, Back Again, …
1 week ago
Last Laugh Howdy! I appreciate the callouts. I've been updating the deck, just not on Tappedout. You can find the most up to date list on Archidekt. I'm currently going through a rebuild, trying to fit in more theft cards, with Prince of Thralls Demon's Herald as a wincon!
MESS1802 on Should I add more protection …
1 week ago
Hello fellow EDH players. I’m facing a dilemma I’d like some help with.
I’m working on making a Voltron deck around Wraith, Vicious Vigilante, but my regular edh pod has two players who have a tendency to auto target and/or kill on sight any Voltron deck, one of which often uses many control pieces in his decks. I’m wondering if I should add more protection and counter magic, and what cards could I cut to do so? I’ll link the deck below, thank you for your feedback!
MESS1802 on Reposted in deck help forum
1 week ago
Sorry, I didn’t realize I didn’t post this in the deck help forum. I’ll repost it there, but I can’t find how to remove it from here. My bad
MESS1802 on Reposted in deck help forum
1 week ago
I remade this post on the actual deck help forum, I didn’t realize I wasn’t originally posting there.
Crow_Umbra on Double D’Isshin
1 week ago
Welcome to the Isshin club. 2025 was a pretty solid year for Isshin between all the new stuff in Dragonstorm and Firebending in Avatar to a certain extent.
Have you had a chance to play this deck irl yet? All in all your deck is solid and has a lot, if not all, of the great staples for Isshin. I have a few general suggestions for your consideration as you get more reps in with this deck, if you haven't had a chance to play it yet:
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If you're ever looking for future slots to edit, I'd recommend starting with your 5 mana and higher slots. In my experience playing Isshin, he really benefits from keeping a lower curve for quicker starts and easier rebuilds after board wipes.
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On the note of a lower curve, I think you could benefit from including a couple more 2 cmc rocks. I also run 35 lands in my Isshin deck, no MDFC lands, but 3-4 mana rocks for ramp has felt like a general sweet spot without detracting from other aspects the deck needs.
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Once you start on your first round of edits after getting some games in, I'd recommend adding a bit more removal. Nothing crazy, but definitely some cheaper stuff like Swords to Plowshares.
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Lastly, as you play the deck, make note of which attack triggers feel most fun for you or are most successful in your meta, and really lean into those. Editing out attack triggers that aren't as beneficial or fun is another great way to free up slots for whatever you feel the deck is lacking.
I hope these broad suggestions are helpful. Happy to talk shop if you're ever looking for more specific suggestions on swaps and edits.
Last_Laugh on Black Rose Affairs: Love, Theft, …
1 week ago
Good start but I do have a few suggestions.
Gisa, Glorious Resurrector is EASILY your best theft option for Marchesa as it does both theft and sacrifice repeatedly with no further mana invested. Get it outta the maybeboard.
Feed the Swarm, Chaos Warp, and Canoptek Tomb Sentinel are your only realistic ways to deal with problematic enchantments in these colors. Don't get caught with your pants down vs. Rest in Peace, Solemnity, etc.
Satoru, the Infiltrator is one of the best draw options available to Marchesa bar none. Marchesa's recursion are all separate triggers, so like Thran Vigil, this triggers separately for each creature. Danny Pink is also amazing here. Keep in mind a creature returning from the grave is a new creature so alt +1+1 counter sources like Uncivil Unrest will draw again on resurrection.
Kardur, Doomscourge can feel dirty but goading all your opponents' creatures (and even fresh Haste creatures) repeatedly is highly effective to say the least.
Gray Merchant of Asphodel and the lifegain seem counterproductive here, but with any alternate source of +1+1 counters, he ends games fast. You get that etb 5 times (or more with clones) in one trip around the table. Easily my #1 finisher here.
I also can't recommend it enough... but get your remaining Signets and Talismans in here asap. The difference between a t3 and t4 Marchesa is huge.
Let me know if you're picking up what I'm putting down and I can help suggest a few cuts. Been piloting Marchesa for a literal decade now, so happy to help if you want.
hyalopterouslemur on Overrated cards?
1 week ago
So I've been thinking a lot about overrated cards. Not bad cards, just...overrated.
An example I can think of is Underworld Connections. People recommend it as an alternative to Phyrexian Arena, but it costs a mana every turn you use it (tapping a land = paying a mana for all intents and purposes). While there are ways to use it more than once, I've never seen it played with Earthcraft or Seedborn Muse or some other land untap card. It's not the worst Arena variant. (That would be Pain Seer.) It's not even bad. But it just doesn't seem that good in a format that also has Arena. (And yes, I acknowledge Arena's flaws, and think it should mostly be limited to Stax and other slow, controlling decks. Thing is, Underworld Connections has all the same flaws and costs you mana to use.) Is it just for people who are worried about paying life?
Any other cards that always seemed overrated to you guys?
Futuremonk on Kotis Will Steal Your Heart
1 week ago
Thanks. The deck has 18 forms of ramp, based on enchanting lands to produce extra mana (increasing the aura count) and untapping them for even more mana. Rampant Growth isn't really on-theme.
clayperce on Elektra: Assassin (Massacre Girl Ultra-Budget)
1 week ago
FormOverFunction -
Love the term "bolt Ron-ish"! :-D
Sorry if you already knew this and I just misunderstood your recommendation. But Blade of Selves and other Myriad effects are pretty terrible on most Commanders ... whenever we control multiple copies of a Legendary permanent with the same name, we have to immediately choose one and put the others in the graveyard :-/
The only exceptions I know of are Commanders we want in the graveyard (e.g., Slimefoot and Squee) and those we want to kill (e.g., Juri, Master of the Revue).
Thanks though, and cheers!
Crow_Umbra on points???
1 week ago
Sorry Balaam__, I cashed in for the panda a year or two ago. You might have to settle for either a sticky hand or a slinky.
Balaam__ on points???
1 week ago
@Crow_Umbra I’m saving up my points to get the giant stuffed panda bear from the tappedout giftshop
theNeroTurtle on points???
1 week ago
Crow_Umbra, yeah... I took a break, but I have been on here for 11 years. thank you
Crow_Umbra on points???
1 week ago
I think the points are just another indicator for how active someone is on site, in addition to the site rankings. Points can go down if you're not as active, so that's why I figured they're tied to general site activity, much like how site rankings also decrease if you're not as active.
I'm not sure if votes on comments are factored into all of the above as well. Similarly, I think Helper rank increases if more suggestions are accepted. Regardless, points and the site ranks are more so indicators of overall activity on site, and are not static in any way. I don't think any of them count for anything beyond being cosmetic aspects to profiles, or to give others a rough guess as to how much any other person regularly posts. At least, those are my guesses after being on here 10+ years.
It's kind of like Whose Line Is It Anyway?
theNeroTurtle on points???
1 week ago
The profile page for myself says that I have 840 points. What are they for and how do they get used?
theNeroTurtle on Mr. Orfeo with a shovel
1 week ago
Hatred is a great card. You don't have to dump all of your life for a one hit kill with Orfeo on the table.
1+
theNeroTurtle on Kotis Will Steal Your Heart
1 week ago
1+ here.
I would recommend a few ramp cards like Rampant Growth though.
theNeroTurtle on Between a Rock and a …
1 week ago
Elvish Piper would be good for pumping out the big boys faster.
1+
theNeroTurtle on Defenders, Monsters in Disguise- Arcades …
1 week ago
Unnatural Growth happens on every turn.
1+
Eaterofvegans on Matoya Scryble
1 week ago
There is a lot of room for improvement, but this is a pretty decent shell for this commander
FormOverFunction on Elektra: Assassin (Massacre Girl Ultra-Budget)
1 week ago
With a bolt Ron-ish (I’m going to leave that autocorrect there, because I like it as much as I like ‘voltron-ish’) commander I like the Blade of Selves because myriad really rounds things out nicely. The trouble I keep running into is the balancing the bouncing of creatures and equipping them with things. I’m not sure what the best answer is for that… which is where I end up every time I start thinking about massacre girl. Maybe you can rely on something like Endless Scream on the following turn, to follow her etb board wipe, and just never plan to cast her more than once a game? She’s literally the embodiment of Rakdos: yes, you’ve done insane destruction to everyone around you… but to what end? Loool
clayperce on Drink Death Like Wine
1 week ago
Looks absolutely brutal; love it! Very sorry your meta forced Ayara out ... hope you have a chance to play her again someday!
What do you think about Sephiroth, Fabled SOLDIER Flip as a Suitor?
Cheers!
Squee_Spirit_Guide on Card creation challenge
1 week ago
Dam Beaver
Creature - Beaver
, sacrifice a forest: add to your mana pool.
, sacrifice an island: return target forest from your graveyard to your hand.
1/1
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Create another underrepresented woodland creature type!
bustinedup on Ambitionz az a Ridah (of …
1 week ago
This is a cool deck. Wish I could play against it, bud.
seshiro_of_the_orochi on Card creation challenge
1 week ago
Greathearted Woodchuck
Creature - Beaver
Haste, Vigilance
, sacrifice a land: Each player adds. It can't be spent on activated abilities. If any amount of that mana would leave a player's mana pool without being spent, they lose that much life.
3/3
Create another beaver.
moo1234 on Card creation challenge
1 week ago
Gift
Token artifact
Sacrifice gift: Each player creates 1 mana of any colour of your choice
'Made in china'
Next challenge wild
Andramalech on Yer a Wizard, Henry!
1 week ago
As a game it plays like a fallout adjacent role playing game, very expansive and encourages exploration. I'd give it a solid 8/10 for examination as a role player, alone. As a reference to the source material? A wealth of healthy investment and respect went into the game. I play on a last generation breadbox known as a PS4.
