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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
Creature — Shapeshifter
You may have Clone enter the battlefield as a copy of any creature on the battlefield.
2 hours ago
I believe not. I'm sure one of the more experienced rules-ologists can provide a more technical answer, but basically, Bonecrusher Giant is an instant, Bonecrusher Giant is a creature separate from that instant, and Clone only copies creatures. Similarly, Clone can't copy Flamethrower Sonata Flip, only Torrent Sculptor Flip.
3 hours ago
Just curious, can't think of somewhere it'd be relevant.
2 days ago
I feel like commander is at the point where the format has a bit of an identity mix up, and in a lot of ways I like it, but at the same time I do miss older games. Commander has always been about blending the old and the new in ways that the cards were never quite meant to play, and for a long time that has lead to really interesting builds, really awesome ideas, and just really fun games. But is that how it is these days? Kinda, but less, definitely less. And I feel like a big part of the format feeling like it's less is the new cards being added, as odd as that is.
A lot of old classic cards just don't hold their own anymore. Do you really need a Chromatic Lantern if every deck can generate treasures? Will Clone see any play if Sakashima of a Thousand Faces can be half of what's in your command zone? I mean, you can absolutely have fun playing old cards, but if you want to optimize, decks will start to more and more favor new cards, while also using the old cards like Sol Ring that were essentially gameplay mistakes when they were printed. Necropotence was too good for it's time, and they will never print something like it again, so it will always have a place in EDH, but the same can't be said for basically the entire rest of Ice Age.
So, odd question of the day, but what do you all think? Could there be some kind of split to commander to make it into a pre-Legends, and post-Legends format, similar to Legacy and Modern. Or is it fine, or is there a better place to split the format?
I mean, I love commander. It is still the most fun and exciting format for me. It's just that things are starting to feel samey as new things happen, and I just thought it might be fun to explore the idea of commander classic and the new hottness not necessarily being always put in the same blender.
2 weeks ago
It's option B.
The basic explanation of how copy effects work is that they only copy what's written on the original. They don't take into account any other effect that would have changed any of those characteristics unless those changes were caused by another copy effect (for example, if you copy a Clone that copied a Bear Cub, you get another Bear Cub instead of another Clone).
In this example, that means Myriad creates 4/3 copies of Tiamat's Fanatics and their power gets doubled to 8.
1 month ago
Straight away, this is a deck I'd enjoy playing. I love how out of control it can get, and dragons are arguably the most nostalgic tribe in Magic, which is a big plus for me! Anyway, here's some thoughts that might be helpful as you continue testing. I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to commander though, so take my suggestions with a pinch of salt :).
In any dragon deck, I like Zirilan of the Claw. He's a nice little tutor/sneak attack for dragons, and with the way you're set up to copy your dragons you should get at least one copy to hang around permanently. Along the lines of getting gragons out quickly, for cost reduction have you looked at Dragonspeaker Shaman or Dragonlord's Servant? I'm not sure if you're hurting in that area, but they might help if you are.
For the 'dragons or permanents that deal non-combat damage' category there's Bogardan Hellkite and Shivan Hellkite. Both are pretty high on the mana curve, but I like the repeatability of Shivan's ability and the copyability (sure, that's a word) of Bogardan's.
Interestingly, being in blue also gives you access to clones like Vesuvan Doppelganger, Phantasmal Image, and of course Clone. With the high number of legendary creatures they might not always have a target, but I think they would most of the time and it could really let you double up on tokens, triggers, and effects.
This is probably getting a little too cute, but Archwing Dragon and all its tokens would repeatedly trigger things like Impact Tremors. You wouldn't get to keep the tokens, but being able to cast a dragon every turn might have some value. Like I said, I'm probably stretching with that one.
Those are just some ideas I had when looking through the list. You'll know better from your testing if any of them have value, but I hope I at least mentioned a couple that are helpful :)
1 month ago
I made a deck that attempts to make grandeur workable (Let's make grandeur work in EDH). It relies on Clone- and Regrowth-style effects to have a copy of, for instance, Baru, Fist of Krosa on the battlefield and one in my hand to discard. It doesn't work very well, but it was a fun experiment.
1 month ago
Sorry, but I don't believe that's right.
Giada, Font of Hope does not grant triggered abilities to Angels entering the battlefield, in the same way that Master Biomancer doesn't. They're replacement effects for how those creatures enter the battlefield, and those creatures enter the battlefield with counters already on them without a separate ability resolving on the stack. Cathars' Crusade has triggered abilities from creatures entering, which is a different deal whereby you'd get to order them on the stack.
Unless I'm much mistaken, the word "already" in Giada's rules don't change its utility at all, and is only there for clarity in circumstances exactly like this. (Otherwise, it could have been worded "for each Angel you control other than the Angel entering the battlefield". Or something slightly less messy.)
These creatures all enter the battlefield simultaneously and none of them is already on the battlefield before any of them enter. So as they're entering the battlefield, they don't see each other on the battlefield already because they're all of them entering at the same time. Similar to if you have a Clone enter the battlefield at the same time as an... Arbor Elf, and otherwise the battlefield is empty. The Clone doesn't have an opportunity to copy the Elf because it's not already on the battlefield for Clone to copy. Clone would enter as a 0/0 and die due to SBAs.
Each of the three Angel tokens will enter with a single +1/+1 counter because Giada is the only Angel their controller controls that's already on the battlefield as they enter.
2 months ago
Hey, I'm having a moment of doubt about the ruling on this and if it will work or not.
The question is pretty self explanatory (I think so at least) but I'll at least give an example to make sure it is 100% clear.
I only ask because the wording on Blade of Selves says:
"Equipped creature has myriad"
Which sounds like the creature has the ability and is a copyable ability of the creature, right?
I hope someone can shed light on this and alleviate my confusion.