- 4x Godless Shrine
- 4x Hallowed Fountain
- 3x Island
- 2x Plains
- 2x Swamp
- 2x Temple of Deceit
- 3x Temple of Silence
- 4x Watery Grave
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As you say, since they both have prot white, the first strike is never ever relevant against mono-white. And since you were talking specifically about side-board against mono-white, Exalted is better that First Strike.
September 6, 2012 10:05 a.m.
A really fun concept, and I think you do a really good job of making it somewhat playable. I'd just suggest that you may want to take some of your CMC's down, it's a very expensive-to-play deck. I love the control style, and would be happy to test it against my midrange-enchantment version sometime :)
I built mine mostly for shenanigans, and probably won't make a physical build.
September 24, 2013 3:08 a.m.
Yeah I have been thinking about what I might cut to drop the average CMC but I am just not really wanting to do that. I have what I have because it all fits the theme. It would be lots of fun to actually build a play to see how it runs against other people but I won't be able to do that for a bit.
September 24, 2013 3:11 a.m.
I have been crafting a deck very similar to this. It works most of the time although fast aggro really can give you trouble if you don't have your sweeper. +1
September 25, 2013 2:07 p.m.
Dimir Charm has great synergy with Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver and Nightveil Specter . I would consider putting the specter in the sideboard, though. I would also move the Psychic Intrusion to the sideboard -- fast decks will have emptied their hand before you can play it. Side it in for slower decks.
I have a similar deck that relies on the stealing mechanism. I splash red instead of white -- Ashiok, Taker of Your Things. Let me know what you think!
September 28, 2013 5:56 p.m.
The reason why Psychic Intrusion can still be used in this deck is because of the ability to pull things from the graveyard as well as the hand. With Jace, Memory Adept , Psychic Strike , Thoughtsieze, and the board clears/removal it almost always sees useful cards to take.
Your deck looks like lots of fun. Interesting take on it. It gets a vote from me.
September 28, 2013 6:09 p.m.
Good point on on it being able to take from graveyards. I overlooked that!
September 29, 2013 1:57 a.m.
This is beauty. I had almost the exact same deck idea when I saw Ashiok and Daxos at the prerelease. I'm in the process of building it now, but I might swap out a couple of things for quicker counter capability... there's 4 guys that play heavy control at my LGS. I'll let you know how your deck, and eveything else fairs when it's built :D
October 9, 2013 7:29 p.m.
Sounds good. Definitely tell me how the match ups go. =)
October 9, 2013 7:33 p.m.
This is the fun kind of esper! I've got a similar deck that I'm using, works really well, especially with azorius charm + steal.
What do you think about Thassa, God of the Sea ? I find her scry 1 and unblockability to be very useful, also with nightveil specters she can become a creature quite easily.
October 13, 2013 6:42 p.m.
Interesting idea. Scry is always a good mechanic, but along side all of my creatures she really gets a lot of good use. They all have the prerequisite of dealing combat damage to work so making them unblockable is just perfect. I will see what I can do to work her in.
October 13, 2013 7:25 p.m.
What about Rise of the Dark Realms ? It's mana cost is high, but it can be a good card to play when you have used a couple of mill-spells like the Psychic Strike and also Jace, Memory Adept 's mill-ability..
October 14, 2013 8:18 a.m.
I would love to run that card. I just don't think that I would ever get to that much mana with out ramp which I don't really want to use. Great suggestion for the theme though. =)
October 14, 2013 12:54 p.m.
So here's the final version of what my deck looks like. Your Soul is mine Liu Kang
I couldn't make an exact carbon copy, because I couldn't find a lot of the cards, but this bad boy went 3-1 tonight, and would've taken me 4-0 if I had my supreme verdicts. It was a LOT of fun to play as well. Definitely recommend putting it together if you can.
(btw any advice on the sidebaord and +1's would be appreciated)
October 18, 2013 11:12 p.m.
hey i like this build! i have a very similar gimmick deck that i recently made up: Your Mind Is Not Your Own. yours seems to focus a lot more on control whereas mine is a little more creature based.
October 21, 2013 12:02 p.m.
Just remember, if you steal aetherling or ghost dad with ashiok you can never exile them (they will come back to their owner, not you).
November 11, 2013 5:59 p.m.
Trying so hard to make this work too. Do you find the counterspells are enough to protect your creatures from removal? It would free up so much utility if I went to one-ofs, but this is a concern for me.
I'm trying to take full advantage of Lazav, Dimir Mastermind since he persists so well and there are so many ways to get things into the graveyard. I may be trying too much. I'd appreciate any feedback you have the time / inclination to offer: Your Deck
Thanks, and +1 from me!
January 15, 2014 4:36 p.m.
I just playtested this against my American Control deck, and you got scraped because you have so many dead cards against decks like mine, and a sideboard that doesn't really do anything to help against it (except AEtherling
, which I'm also rocking).
Psychic Intrusion was really good against my deck, you stole a Sphinx from me and should have snowballed after that, but you literally had no answer for Elspeth once she hit the board. I would take out Doom Blade s and Far / Away s and mainboard your Hero's Downfall s and put in Detention Sphere s. This would give you four slots in your sideboard for more answers AND make it competitive against other control decks. Just my two cents, pretty cool theme all-in-all. I think your deck would have stomped mine if you made some minor adjustments.
April 7, 2014 2:49 p.m.
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