- 2x Canopy Vista
- 3x Forest
- 1x Gavony Township
- 2x Godless Shrine
- 2x Marsh Flats
- 3x Overgrown Tomb
- 3x Plains
- 3x Swamp
- 2x Temple Garden
- 2x Windswept Heath
- 2x Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit
- 2x Bloodthrone Vampire
- 1x Heartmender
- 4x Kitchen Finks
- 4x Melira, Sylvok Outcast
- 4x Murderous Redcap
- 4x Viscera Seer
29 lands is a fairly large number for a deck with a fairly low and aggressive curve like yours. Dropping it down to 24 at the very least, would be a solid step, though you could easily push it down a bit further. You're also quite low on black lands, despite your deck having a great deal of black in it's costs. Purphoros is the only card you have that strictly requires red mana (redcap can be cast with black), so I would actually suggest cutting back on the red lands and adding more black/green and black/white lands in.
Cutting Purphoros entirely is an option as well, at least until you added in some fetch lands to try and smooth out your mana costs. He does help out with your game plan and is a solid card, but your mana base is going to be really wonky as it is. Overall, your deck is fairly similar to the old Melira pod gameplan, which is not a bad thing, since that deck was solid. While most of them have switched over to a Collected Company style of play, I feel this deck can still be a lot of fun for you.
April 8, 2017 1:55 a.m.
foreverzero I've made a few changes as you suggested and added some card draw in there as I was topdecking most of my decktests, also, I'm unfamiliar with Meliras Pod or Collected Company playstyles, do you care to elaborate?
April 8, 2017 2:27 a.m.
Melira and Murderous Redcap on the field with any means of sacrificing creatures at no cost (like with Blood Bairn) leads to infinite damage, while Melira and Finks in the same situation leads to infinite lifegain. Melira Pod made use of this interaction and Birthing Pod to tutor up all of the creatures needed to win the game fairly early. Birthing Pod got banned, so most decks switched to using Collected Company which can dig through your deck to get the required cards. It would be a solid addition to your deck, but it isn't necessary if you just wanted to stick to home-brewing. As a note, Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit has the same interaction with those cards so might be something to look into.
April 9, 2017 2:52 a.m.
foreverzero I've made some more changes as neccesary, but what about sideboard options? I don't play modern very often so I'm not up to par with common sideboard carads
April 10, 2017 11:32 a.m.
Really neat take on this type of deck, personally I believe that Viscera Seer would be better than the Blood Bairn and a couple of the Blasting Station's, since costing 3 mana is quite a bit in modern, for not much more impact than Viscera Seer.
Also, you were asking about sideboard options, white is arguably the best color for sideboards in modern, allowing you access to Stony Silence because Affinity will always be a popular deck, Blessed Alliance is good in several matchups, Sin Collector is good against combo decks, Rule of Law is good in a few specific matchups, but they're much fewer than the others mentioned. If you're worried about graveyard style decks, normally Rest in Peace is the go-to option, but that also hurts your deck immensely, so I'd probably suggest a few Relic of Progenitus since it also cycles itself, Grafdigger's Cage is also good against some graveyard decks and also any Chord of Calling decks. Pithing Needle can also be very good in specific matchups, as well as Duress, or Thoughtseize, but I was trying to keep these cards more budget friendly.
There are countless other sideboard cards in modern, if you're looking for any against a specific matchup, just reply and let me know.
Hope this helps!
April 12, 2017 10:56 p.m.
Myfler I've adjusted the main and side boards as needed again, I'd definitly like son more input if you'd like. Also, I was more specifically looking for side board options that deal with things like rest in piece, as, like you said, the whole deck would fall apart
April 12, 2017 11:11 p.m.
If you're looking for answers for Rest in Peace, there are a ton of options in your colors. Disenchant and Naturalize are essentially the same card, just in different colors, but they also both cost 2 mana. Natural State, Fragmentize, and Nature's Claim are all good 1 CMC cards with similar abilities, but small drawbacks, Natural State can only hit things with 3 CMC or less, which deals with Rest in Peace and a lot of other cards in modern, Fragmentize hits more targets than Natural State, but it's a sorcery, which could be relevant in certain situations, Nature's Claim hits any artifact or enchantment at instant speed, but your opponent does gain 4 life. There are even quite a few more options to choose from, I just thought these would be the best suggestions, and then you'll just have to decide which you prefer. Another thing to think about, cards that I mentioned earlier, such as Duress can actually deal with Rest in Peace, simply by taking it out of their hand before they get an opportunity to play it.
Once again, if you need any other suggestions, I'm always happy to help!
April 13, 2017 11:09 a.m.
Myfler Okay, changes made once again, what about creature protection? If they get rid of Melira then the deck is just as useless. I was thinking of adding a card that gives all my creatures persist til end of turn for 2 cmc, just to fit with the theme, or should I do regeneration instead?
April 13, 2017 11:23 a.m.
And for future reference to all commenters, budget does not matter this deck is going to be bought by a collection of 6 people trying to get 1 deck, we can afford anything below the cost of the power nine essentially. Also, Myfler, Do you have any idea how to counter the crypt incursion tactic I detailed in the weakness section?
April 13, 2017 11:53 a.m.
April 13, 2017 12:02 p.m.
dotytron the only reason i would leave Mikaeus, the Unhallowed out of the deck is because of his high mana cost whereas Heartmender also deals with the -1/-1 counters, and, although it would be fun to have both undying and persist in the same deck, it takes away from the speed of the deck to add flexibility, and I don't often deal with creature destruction anyway. Thanks though!
April 13, 2017 12:13 p.m.
As far as Crypt Incursion goes, you're not really in colors for protecting your graveyard or countering anything, so the only real way to deal with it is to rely on your hand disruption: Duress, Thoughtseize, and Inquisition of Kozilek being your best options.
Also, if budget is not a problem, Windswept Heath's or Marsh Flats' are much better than Evolving Wilds, and for removal you may just want to consider Path to Exile over Angelic Purge. While Angelic Purge suits the deck better theme-wise and can remove more threats, being 3 CMC, is quite a bit and will most likely take up an entire turn, which isn't really what you want to spend an entire turn doing. To make room for an extra Path to Exile, or any card you want, you might want to consider shaving one of the Dictate of Erebos, solely due to the high CMC, so you wouldn't really want multiple cluttering your hand at the same time, but that's just a thought, I obviously haven't done any testing with the deck.
April 13, 2017 8:22 p.m.
Also, I just want to throw out that even if they do kill your Melira, Sylvok Outcast, it's definitely not game over. Abzan Company is a deck that runs the infinite life combo, but wins many of it's games just by out-valuing it's opponents, which is a strength of your deck, your opponent will essentially have to kill all of your creatures twice, plus you basically can block infinitely with your Heartmender, as long as they don't have removal after a block.
I almost forgot to mention, some number of Gavony Township's seem like they would be amazing in your deck, since the +1/+1 counters would cancel the -1/-1 counters, so then all your creatures could persist again. While it is slow, it would help immensely in those grindy games I was mentioning.
April 13, 2017 8:29 p.m.
Myfler yeah I was thinking of shaving off 3 Dictates, and replacing purge with a Swords to Plowshares instead. I guess I'll use the sideboard slots for Angelic Purge to put in more hand control. I don't know what to do with the extra slots though. Maybe add a bit of hand control in the deck already? Or some early mana ramp for even faster win condition?
April 13, 2017 11:41 p.m.
Well swords to plowshares isnt legal, good to know. Also I added Aegis of the Gods and a Leyline of Sanctity in the sideboard for anti Crypt Incursion and anti Direct Damage deck. What do you think of the changes Myfler?
April 14, 2017 12:01 a.m.
April 14, 2017 11:07 a.m.
I think the decks really starting to shape up, one thing to note about Leyline of Sanctity, most people run multiple copies of that card to increase the odds of having it in their opening hand, mainly because drawing it and playing it on turn 4 often isn't fast enough to help you, especially since Crypt Incursion can always be cast a turn before Leyline of Sanctity can be played. My suggestion would be to either add a couple more copies to increase seeing it in your opener, or just cut it and add something else you feel is relevant.
I'm really liking how your deck is starting to get some interaction, but I personally don't like the mainboard Nature's Claim's. While there will be a couple decks it will help you against, no (tiered) decks play Rest in Peace mainboard, and a lot of games it will just be a dead draw.
While Altar of the Brood could be amusing to play, I feel as it would only be a more "win-more" card. Solely because you have no other mill cards in your deck, so you have no realistic chance to mill them completely. While I'm not 100% sure if Blasting Station is the right card in the deck, it does give you extra interaction, can be fairly relevant in a couple certain matchups, and usually won't be a dead draw.
One last thing to add, while I definitely think that this deck wants Collected Company, the general consensus is that you want a minimum of 22 creatures, as this will only give you a 5% chance of missing, while giving you like a 74% chance of hitting 2 creatures. Currently you have 17 creatures in the deck which gives you around a 56% chance to hit 2 creatures. Here's a link to "Collected Company Math" if you'd like to take a look.
Once again, hope this stuff is helping!
April 15, 2017 9:40 p.m.
April 15, 2017 9:56 p.m.
April 16, 2017 12:55 a.m.
Carrion Feeder is another good sacrifice outlet and a 1 drop also. The scry you get from Viscera may be better than the counters though. Just a thought.
Ivy Lane Denizen Works like Melira but a little different. Gives counters to things as they enter so it cancels the -1/-1 counters. Definitely not as good but its like extra copies of that same effect albeit 4 mana may be more than you want to spend on that but maybe as a 2 of?
Also I agree with the above copies. I think 24 lands may be excessive. You could probably cut down to 22.
Either way sweet build. Draw well!!
April 18, 2017 8:40 a.m.
RUST-O dotytron I've made some changes as necessary, what do you guys think? I like the early pressure from the undying creatures for sure, and the extra Melira affect is nice, and in decktesting I never seen to get land at 24 but I'll try 22 or 23.
April 18, 2017 8:55 a.m.
Myfler well as for the leyline, it's more of that and aegis of the Gods both being added, if I don't have leyline, aegis is the backup, though I might add another aegis. Altar the brood is a nice replacement to the old main deck' s cauldron haze because, in my experience, a turn 1 mill every turn is annoying, and Incas I dont have murderous redcap, I can mill the Infinitly with any other persist creature. As to argue for the card that's made me hate artifact decks.
April 18, 2017 9:03 a.m.
So Carrion Feeder is illegal in Modern... sorry about that dude.
Switch those 2 for 1 more Denizen and 1 more Young wolf.
April 18, 2017 9:06 a.m.
April 18, 2017 9:09 a.m.
Phyrexian Unlife could at least be good sideboard combo with melira.
April 18, 2017 9:32 a.m.
neosapien Hey thanks, hexproof was my only counter to direct damage decks until now
April 18, 2017 9:53 a.m.
If you're looking for more "Melira" type cards, Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit is the next best option. All of your persist creatures, when they ETB from the graveyard, will have either 1 power or toughness, meaning you can put the counter on them, negating the -1/-1. Another benefit Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit gives you, that Ivy Lane Denizen doesn't, is that it can be hit off Collected Company.
April 20, 2017 8:58 a.m.
Myfler is totally right on this one. The only thing bad with Anafenza is the double white cost.
Anafenza, Kin-Tree Spirit is definitely better all around. She also bolsters non-green creatures. The Denizen only does that from green creatures.. which makes it kind of.. not so good.
April 20, 2017 1 p.m.
So I've made some more changes, such as adding Anafenza, taking out the main Cauldron Haze, and even subtracting a Young Wolf, while adding a few Fauna Shamans for creature search. Good or bad move? Myfler RUST-O neosapien?
April 21, 2017 2:18 a.m.
I agree with neosapien
Company with your scrying vampire.. I wouldn't worry about finding pieces. I personally love young wolf. And think of it this way, if it dies while you have Anafenza out it potential comes back as a 3/3. VALUE!!
This doesn't work with your sacrifice outlet since she is a 1/1. But it would just bolster her and its still coming back as a 2/2. And then the vampire gets the counter which is cool too.
April 21, 2017 6:13 a.m.
Maybe go all in on the persist creatures?
Both are higher costed than Young Wolf but they fit the rest of the deck a little better..
April 21, 2017 6:22 a.m.
April 21, 2017 6:29 a.m.
My deck has a different spin to it, so nothing much to help ya in it but here it is Modern Wither Help Plz. It's cool to see all the different ways some of these cards can be used.
April 21, 2017 6:35 a.m.
neosapien The only reason i would argue for Altar of the Brood is incase i don't get any Murderous Redcaps which is unlikely yes, but its nice to infinitly sac a Kitchen Finks and kill someone with mill. Undying Evil is there because the +1/+1 counters would cancle out the -1/-1, therefore its the same effect as Melira, Sylvok Outcast incase she isnt on the field or has been gotten rid of via Duress or Memoricide. Though I agree with Grave Pact as a better choice than Dictate of Erebos.
May 5, 2017 11:41 a.m.
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