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Renegade Krasis
Creature — Beast Mutant
Evolve (Whenever a creature enters the battlefield under your control, if that creature has greater power or toughness than this creature, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature.)
Whenever Renegade Krasis evolves, put a +1/+1 counter on each other creature you control with a +1/+1 counter on it.
SufferFromEDHD on
Ramping those Counters
11 months ago
Rishkar, Peema Renegade > Citanul Hierophants
Renegade Krasis > Ojer Taq, Deepest Foundation
Rakious07 on
To the combat step
1 year ago
Loyal Guardian, Gyre Sage Mana, Gruul Beastmaster, Renata, Called to the Hunt, Kodama of the West Tree Ramp, Armorcraft Judge Draw, Rogue's Passage, Rishkar, Peema Renegade Mana, Thundering Raiju, Fertilid Ramp, Champion of Lambholt, Chishiro, the Shattered Blade, Renegade Krasis, Forgotten Ancient, Kurbis, Harvest Celebrant Protection, Oran-Rief Ooze, Kami of Celebration Card advantage, Vorinclex, Monstrous Raider.
Headers13 on
Counting on Life
2 years ago
SufferFromEDHD, thanks for the suggestions.
I like the rings but not sure what I'd potentially drop to fit them in yet, still heavily play testing the deck. Whilst the regular counter addition is good the existing equipment is either to prevent against removal of S&H (and/or one of the heavy hitters this deck develops) or to give things lifelink which then more consistently enables some of the infinite combo's in the deck.
Sword of Truth and Justice is beyond my budget so would have to pass on that.
Not sure Phantom Nantuko is strong enough to displace any of the current creatures in the deck but can see it would be nice to declare it as a blocker, tap it which then replaces the counter it would lose as it prevents the damage to itself.
I think Renegade Krasis didn't make the cut as I didn't think it would be a good return on investment as it wouldn't reliably evolve enough times with the other creatures in the deck. This deck also went from a go-wide style deck which Krasis would be better in I think to a voltron style-deck where I've only got 2 or 3 heavy hitters out there which only get bigger after being played, hence Krasis would only add a couple of counters in a limited number of situations.
Afiya Grove falls prey to my dislike of old art cards unfortunately, lol. It's also quite situational as you wouldn't want to play it early game if you don't have a creature out pre-turn 3 and also needs 'additional' counter effects to be on the board to be effective.
Branching Evolution also falls foul of my budgetary limits but Hardened Scales should really be on my maybe board with some play testing in the near future.
Tribute to the World Tree is a good shout, I just need to figure out where to fit it in (and just scrapes under my budget cap :-))
I don't think Ordeal of Nylea is a upgrade to a sorcery speed ramp spell due to all the caveats that it comes with, not only would I need a creature out to play it on but then depending on fast I can get counters on that creature might be 3 turns, provided I can attack without the creature dying, until I see the lands. Think I'd rather stick with plain ramp spells with less situational restrictions for the sake of consistency.
Hope that covers the thinking behind adding some of these to the maybe board and leaving some out. Happy to be corrected if I've missed some really powerful combo some of these cards might enable.
SufferFromEDHD on
Counting on Life
2 years ago
Ring of Kalonia and/or Ring of Valkas nothing crazy but serious potential.
Sword of Truth and Justice all gas. Pure power.
Phantom Nantuko a jank rare turns into an efficient engine piece.
Renegade Krasis serious engine. Was surprised it wasn't in your solid list of creatures.
Afiya Grove this janky reserved list rare might be worth a spot.
Branching Evolution and Hardened Scales not janky and both are worthy a spot.
Tribute to the World Tree card draw or counters. Seems good.
Ordeal of Nylea an upgrade to one of your sorcery speed ramp spells.
StoryArcher on
Don't Let Em Breathe (Quick)
3 years ago
I hadn't messed with the counter deck in a while, so I just ran a quick playtest. It's just solataire, of course, but at the end of round 5, I had:
- 11/12 Gyre Sage
- 7/6 Renegade Krasis
- 6/6 Swarm Shambler
- 9/9 Experiment One
- 12/11 Avatar of the Resolute
- 12/13 Voracious Hydra
and...
- 42/42 Wildwood Scourge
That was with one Hardened Scales on the board and an Inscription of Abundance in my hand.
Not every hand ends up like that, but more than you would think. It's just crazy.
Strangelove on
Vorinclex - High Power
4 years ago
+1 my dude! @your reddit post,
More lands imo. Also more big ramp... seems like Vorinclex is a big target for removal, so ramping up to 15+ mana a turn seems like the way to go.
I think the biggest problem is that you're splitting themes and trying to jam infect. A lot of seemingly powerful cards don't have synergy with the rest of the deck. Only ~12 cards directly create +1/+1 counters. So (eg.) Hardened Scales really does nothing.
...Cut incidental Infect:
-1Viridian Corrupter, -1Spinebiter
-1Phyrexian Swarmlord... I love this card but, even when you're all in on infect it isn't that good...
(I think the other infect cards with 5+ power as soft, 2-card combos with your commmander are viable).
...Cut fatties with no evasion:
-1Renata, Called to the Hunt... if you're interested in playing "go-wide + pump" this could be good, but not better than Bloodspore Thrinax
-1Rampaging Baloths... incidental 4/4s aren't worthwhile
-1Crowned Ceratok... +1Champion of Lambholt
-1Ulvenwald Hydra... no synergy
-1Primordial Hydra... +1Managorger Hydra
When choosing cards ask yourself: (1) Does it work with my commander? (2) Does it work with my theme? (3) Is it strong enough with no synergy to play 1v3? (eg. Rampant Growth, Sylvan Library, etc.)
Happy brewing!
wallisface on
Hardened Evolve
5 years ago
At a glance, I would say Predator Ooze, Renegade Krasis, Champion of Lambholt, and Cytoplast Root-Kin can all be removed. They seem like the weakest of the bunch.
Just to complicate things further, I think you should look to include Thrummingbird in the deck - it’d work very well here
Courtney43 on
Golgari Scales Aggro Copy
5 years ago
Whew was this a fun build I played with last night. I added some Blossoming Defense, Voracious Hydra, Renegade Krasis, and Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx into the deck and they all performed excellently. One game I had out 2 hardened scales and a renegade Krasis and made a 16/17 Voracious Hydra turn 4!
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