How would Notion Thief interact with Leovold, Emissary of Trest?

Asked by Shadow_of_The_Dark_Sun 7 years ago

How would Notion Thief interact with Leovold, Emissary of Trest? Would you get the draw from Notion Thief or would Leovold just counter the draw?

Epochalyptik says... Accepted answer #1

Leovold, Emissary of Trest changes the rules such that opponents can't draw more than one card each turn.

Notion Thief creates a replacement effect that applies to any card an opponent would draw other than the first card he or she draws in his or her own draw step.

Remember also that if an event is replaced, the original event doesn't occur.

You end up with a weird situation in which the following rules are true:

  1. An opponent may only draw during his/her own draw step.
  2. An opponent may only draw the first card he/she would draw during his/her own draw step.
    • Any card that opponent would draw before then on his/her turn, you draw instead.
    • Any card your opponent would draw after then on his/her turn doesn't happen. Nobody draws a card.
  3. If an opponent would draw a card during any turn other than his/her own, you draw that card instead.

Let's say you have a three-player game with Players A, B, and C. C controls both Notion Thief and Leovold, Emissary of Trest.

A's turn begins. A draws a card during his draw step. Because this is the first card he drew this turn Leovold, Emissary of Trest's ability won't prevent it. Because it's also the first card he drew in his own draw step, Notion Thief's replacement effect can't apply to it.

Then, during his main phase, A casts Ponder. Leovold, Emissary of Trest's ability prevents the draw because A already drew a card this turn. Because the draw doesn't happen Notion Thief's replacement effect has nothing to apply to. All A will get to do is look at the top three cards of his library and (optionally) put them on the bottom of his library.

A then casts a creature, which B counters with Bone to Ash. Because B hasn't drawn a card yet this turn, Leovold, Emissary of Trest allows the draw to occur. However, because B is drawing a card outside of her draw step, Notion Thief's replacement effect applies. B's draw will be replaced with C drawing a card.

September 6, 2016 9:24 p.m.

Epochalyptik thanks so much for clearing that up! I guess that means Notion Thief is still a viable card! Thanks.

September 7, 2016 7:49 p.m.

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