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Darkest Hour Discussion
1 week ago
Also I run more Blood Artist effects, so Vindictive Vampire and Pious Evangel Flip. These effects are basically your wincon if you don't go onto the Darkest Hour tour. It makes people think again about playing a board wipe and gives more value to your boardwipes when you play them if needed.
And ofcourse from modern horizons the new Yawgmoth, Thran Physician sack outlet and card draw and removal, it's basically everything orzhov wants...
At one point I cut Divine Visitation as well, since I found it too mana intensive and often to reliant on having a boardstate. Wich often can be a bit of a problem, since Teysa draws sooooo much hate. (wich is understandable) I replaced it for more recursion.
I do like your addition of Living Death and I'm gonna give it a go with that card as well. Since we mostly exile threats, I don't think whatever comes back is that much of a problem for us :)
And about darkest hour. It's up to you if you want to play it, it takes the deck from a nice deck to play against to full on combo. I kinda like that, I have the card and depending what powerlevel I'm up against I put it in or not. It's like a switch you can turn on and off. ".Darkest Hour I feel will need to be slotted in eventually for combo potential, but I gotta have something to combo it with, whether its Altar of Dementia or a Blood Artist like effect." - You already play it hahah. You just need teysa and a sac outlet and your done. One of the altars means infinite mana, Dementia is everyone is milled, one of the blood artists and everyone is dead, Gravepact/dictate the board is empty, Carrion Feeder is infinite big, Viscera Seer you scry for your wincon. And even without Darkest Hour that is why you want to run more of these blood artist effects and recursion to keep your guys on the board.
Also....where is your card draw? It feels like your gonna fall into the orzhov trap wich is being without a hand and without enough recursion you will slow down quite fast and the other decks will get the upper hand. 1 Midnight Reaper and 1 Grim Haruspex are not enough to stay dangerous..
Hope these tips will help you a bit
And otherwise if you want this is my decklist with what I play: Teysa, Orzhov Scion: a Dance Macabre
2 weeks ago
Divine Visitation makes Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder get REAL stupid. lol Also, Darkest Hour might correct some of the issues with the previously mentioned Derelor plays, but probly not. I don't think any of this information is actually useful however. lol
Teysa, Orzhov Scion could do some solid legwork in the deck by creating more sac'ables after sac'ing. Which she "does" combo off darkest hour, if you were to build around that.
To conclude this series of tangents, Thrulls are awesome and i've always wanted to build around them. love the deck!
1 month ago
Falkenrath Noble is honestly the first card I plan to cut to get Cruel Celebrant out. Its lower on the curve, meaning that I can play it out more easily. As well, in a pinch, I can also use it with Teysa to exile a creature
The removal package does need to change a bit. Fleshbag Marauder , Necrotic Sliver , Plaguecrafter , Shriekmaw , Despark , Tragic Slip and Unexpectedly Absent are on my list of includes, with Shriekmaw and Tragic Slip being on the lower end of the removal additions. I like Fleshbag, Plaguecrafter and Necrotic Sliver, because they can always sac themselves and make a white token that can now be used to exile another creature. Despark and Unexpectedly Absent are more instant speed removal for "any" targets.
My goal is to hopefully swap out some of the creatures that say "non-token" creatures, for things that just care about "Creatures". Darkest Hour I feel will need to be slotted in eventually for combo potential, but I gotta have something to combo it with, whether its Altar of Dementia or a Blood Artist like effect. I don't think I need to worry about "how big" my tokens get, but its more so "making" tokens. I need stuff that isn't reliant on ETB, because some of the higher tier decks run Torpor Orb , thus I'm looking for things with on death triggers or on cast. God-Eternal Oketra is the best case scenario, because it can make tokens BUT it also can be sacced to exile something in a pinch and then just put it back in my library. Dreadhorde Invasion is just a worse Bitterblossom .
I will need to manage my sac outlets that "Do things", and not just adds mana or anything. I'd like to include more creatures that are easily returnable, such as Bloodsoaked Champion , Bloodghast and Gravecrawler (though I don't run enough Zombies to make it able to cast from the graveyard).
I REALLY want to try Aetherworks Marvel in the deck! Just the thought of saccing my things or there is a board wipe and then spending energy to cast cards, its basically cheating mana, but you also dig for cards. That means in a pinch, you could Wrath of God at instant speed, get that Path to Exile or even just get additional value out of it
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2 months ago
Okay! I was finally able to take a look at your deck. I have some suggestions that I would add, but first it would help to have a better understanding of what you want from the deck. I assume you're not against infinite combos since you've included Darkest Hour , but are you going for a traditional Aristocrats theme? Do you want to win as fast as possible or are you trying to go a more stax route?
I notice you have Reveillark , but I don't see Karmic Guide . I highly recommend you pair them together for an infinite sac loop but also to be able to get everything out of your graveyard with power 2 or less.
Nim Deathmantle is another that works great with Teysa. It can even go infinite with Ashnod's Altar and your commander if you sacrifice the creature you get from Teysa first so you have 4 to pay to the mantle.
Ogre Slumlord is excellent for providing sac fodder. He gets ridiculous pretty fast.
I would add Zulaport Cutthroat or the new Cruel Celebrant in addition to your Blood Artist to have additional means of draining your opponents. You could also go big with Kokusho, the Evening Star if you want to throw him into a recurring sac loop.
Smothering Abomination is great for card advantage, and if you can find room for him, you probably won't regret it. Dark Prophecy is probably the best in terms of card draw and would recommend you find room for it. I might also replace Burnished Hart with Solemn Simulacrum . He'll draw you cards and ramp you. Plus you can recur him to use him again.
Speaking of graveyard recursion, Phyrexian Reclamation is one of the best in terms of getting single creatures back to sac again especially if they're cheap to cast. Athreos, God of Passage is amazing for recursion as well. You might also try Trading Post for recurring your artifacts which can be essential to your strategies.
As for more cards in your Maybeboard, Sun Titan is an excellent choice if you want to include him. Bojuka Bog is always handy when you're going against other graveyard decks, and Reliquary Tower is good to have on hand when you end up drawing half your deck, which can realistically happen if you run Darkest Hour . I would definitely keep Blasting Station but I'd probably cut Loxodon Warhammer and Felidar Sovereign . The way Teysa runs, they aren't the most useful cards in her arsenal. I've found Felidar just becomes the primary target when he comes out anyway.
Anyway...just a few thoughts. Like I said it would be helpful to know the direction you want to take the deck. Otherwise I'm just spitballing with cards I would personally use to run Teysa.
2 months ago
Overall, the Commander choice can be swapped to any Legendary. I don't particularly like Teysa, Orzhov Scion as you need Teysa + Razaketh, the Foulblooded + a creature. Teysa's ability doesn't work on herself and Razaketh can't sacrifice himself. Daxos is the same CMC as Teysa, so they work the same, except Daxos is Pay 2 Life: Search your Library for a card and put that card into your hand. Teysa needs another creature on board, and in order to get a second tutor, the creature that dies needs to be . You could run Darkest Hour but you need to ensure it is on board before you sacrifice. If Darkest Hour is your first tutor, the you still have the issue of needing to sacrifice a creature for the Teysa token to enter.
Daxos + Razaketh + = Tutor.
Teysa + Razaketh + Creature = Tutor.
In both scenarios the Commander can be sacrificed for a second Tutor, but Teysa doesn't provide any value being sacrificed. Teysa doesn't see added value if the first creature sacrificed isn't Black, and won't see value over Daxos with the additional tutor line until the third Tutor. If need be, Daxos can be your second sacrifice, but with Teysa you will want to keep her on board to get any value from her.
Sanctum Prelate is an interesting card. My only concern is what number would we call? 2 seems most likely, to stop Counter magic, but that stops us from casting 2/3 of our Reanimate Auras. You could call 1 in order to stop the single mana Counters and then you only stop your own Altar of the Brood .
Winter Orb is a great idea, I will definitely look into adding it with other stuff like Defense Grid . You should not overvalue Serra's Sanctum though. I have it included in the deck because I own it, but it is rarely game breaking. It is a good land, but most games end before it really starts to show value. I find myself tutoring for Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth more often.
There are 8 cards to win from the LRW combo. A few of these pieces can be removed. Altar of the Brood is not one that should be removed though. It provides a win from LRW or the Bomberman combo. Grim Guardian works with both combos, (as long as you're running Daxos as the Commander), and Underworld Coinsmith is primarily for Bomberman. If you're looking to cut one or more of them, Falkenrath Noble is the most expensive to cast. If you want the universal effect then Cruel Celebrant or Zulaport Cutthroat are likely cuts. Altar of Dementia provides a Mill win if you don't have access to Altar of the Brood. This is a useful piece to keep as it helps you win around Solitary Confinement / Phyrexian Unlife effects.
2 months ago
I appreciate that he's a reasonable mana sink; but one has to resolve bomberman, wait for an entire turn pass, then it can win. For this reason I believe that he's ineffective.
Whereas Teysa, Orzhov Scion features an interaction package, replaces herself, and feeds razaketh like a proper champ, turning most bodies into 2 bodies. You can even just tutor for Darkest Hour off of the first raza' activation and then you have unbounded raza' fodder.
Personally (though it only sees fringe-play) I like Sanctum Prelate as a hatebear. If you know a card that is likely to stop you from winning, it's very easy to name it's mana cost and have it remain as a continuous hatebear.
Your lands could use some work too; cutting Vault of the Archangel (if you have 5 mana to spare then I feel like something's going wrong) for a card like Lake of the Dead , Strip Mine , Wasteland . Depending on how low your hand gets, some lands which draw are viable too like Sea Gate Wreckage .
You currently have 7 cards that win from LRW (not including coinsmith). That seems like a lot for a deck with access to the best tutors; I'd recommend stripping some of the worse ones down like Altar of the Brood and Altar of Dementia and replacing them with more hate. I'd recommend Bitter Ordeal as an alternate win condition, because it's not shut out by null rod, or any single counterspell (except flusterstorm, but screw that card).
Authority of the Consuls is neat, depending on your meta. It stops godo and some other decks, but I'd be hesitant to run it alongside Blind Obedience . Is there a particular reason for this? If it's just a hateful card, I'd recommend trying out Victimize or Reanimate as I'm sure your hateful cards could use another go.
Darkest Hour occurrence in decks from the last year
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All decks: 0.01%