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Starved Rusalka
Creature — Spirit
(Green), Sacrifice a creature: You gain 1 life.
_Arra_ on
[[Primer v3.6]] - OM_RATH!!! (2021 Update!!!)
4 years ago
VexenX yeah my point being is that I think with the inclusion of Fiery Emancipation I think we need to lean into Omnath's bolt ability more. Sylvan Awakening just came to mind as each land sac'd would deal 9. There is most likely a better option though.
Regarding your wish for a green Viscera Seer, the closest we have is Starved Rusalka which isn't a free sac but does only cost a G.
enpc on
Saffi BoonHulk *cEDH Primer*
4 years ago
I think I'm going to have to make space for Oakhame then, and the fact that it's another elf for Priest of Titania is nice. I'm gald I'm not the only one with the same thinking about broodmoth. I really want it to work in the deck, but I'm just not sure if it will end up cutting the mustard. I think it definitely makes Protean Hulk lines strong, especially if you combined it with Starved Rusalka/Hidden Herbalists but it will take a bit of playing with to get right. And even then it might just be win more.
enpc on
Saffi BoonHulk *cEDH Primer*
4 years ago
With regards to sac outlets, I actually made the decision a while ago to cut the number of outlets down in my list, in place of more card advantage and honestly I can say that I have found it to be better. There are 4 main sac outlets that I focus on, Blasting Station, Altar of Dementia, Ashnod's Altar and Phyrexian Altar. I also sport Starved Rusalka and Greater Good (which is insane btw with the release of Renegade Rallier), however that's really all the repeatable outlets I run.
The reasoning I found was that while you can run a bunch of sac outlets, ultimately you can create lots of combinations that don't do anything. For example, Saffi Eriksdotter + Karmic Guide + Fanatical Devotion, while being an infinite combo, doesn't actually achieve anything for the deck. And while you can add Soul of the Harvest for card draw, you now need 4 cards to generate value and even still can potentially not have the mana required to do anything as a follow up.
I appreciate that adding the Boonweaver Giant combo into the deck kind of skews the number of sacrifice outlets you want to run in the deck. That being said, generally if you're going to run the boonweaver combo then that should be the central focus of the deck, with the rest of the list leaning into supporting the combo. So cards like Idyllic Tutor are going to make the deck a lost stronger as you want more options to get a sac outlet and then get either boonwevaer or pattern down and then go from there. For me personally, I elected not to try and integrate this as a combo since I felt that it was strongest with the addition of black for the creature based support that is offered there. But again, I still think the general premise of "less situational sac outlets, more tutors/draw" will ultiamtely be beneficial for the deck.
As for the swaps you've suggested, I think that they seem decent, I personally would have gone for more draw over Caregiver but at the end of the day you need to build a list that's comfortable for your playstyle.
enpc on
Saffi BoonHulk *cEDH Primer*
4 years ago
Overall the list looks good. A few improvements I would recommend however:
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Starved Rusalka is better than Caregiver. You run both Gaea's Cradle as well as the infinite mana line off Devoted Druid, which both produce green mana. Rusalka can use that mana where Caregiver can't.
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Skullclamp is so so so good. Hell, I run Stoneforge Mystic in my list with only two equipment, primarily as a clamp tutor. I'm really surprised it's not in the list.
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Beast Within/Generous Gift are excellent removal. Would rate them over Oblation. Unexpectedly Absent is also good, though not as good as the other two.
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I would also recommend Yisan, the Wanderer Bard. This guy does some serious work, especially if the game starts getting a bit drawn out.
RylandL on
5 years ago
cgomes, no they're not great on their own. Other than Salvagers getting back things like a destoyed mana vault of crypt, whatever. Not very useful, which is why I originally cut it.
I tried the Kiki loops with Hulk. First pile was Karmic Guide and Phyrexian Dreadnought . Second pile was Kiki and Skirk Prospector , but again Skirk and Dreadnought are dead draws so I cut them too. You can just go blood pod style and run Village Bell Ringer, Felidar Guardian , etc but my idea was to make Marath more combo focused and less staxy.
I have tried Food Chain. And while it's a great card for Marath, you can't actually win unless you have an Altar out to start converting into other mana to machine gun the table. All Food Chain really does alone is make Marath Infinite/Infinite if you're using a CFE creature like Squee, the Immortal . I liked it, just wasn't reliable in my own testing.
But as I've said, this deck is really just my own prototype for a competitive Marath. It definitely needs tuning, adjusting, finding what works.
Also, there's 3 sac outlets, and there's Starved Rusalka I think it? The green one. I've also been toying with Greater Good . There's Pattern, Sneak Attack, Hunting Grounds , though you'd have to have threshold and a reliable opponent. There's ways in Naya. Just not as good as UBG
enpc on What creatures in Gruul (if …
5 years ago
You could get Combat Celebrant and Eternal Witness letting you replay hulk (assuming you can save him twice) which then lets you get Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker who does combo with celebrant. You're still looking at a lot of mana but if you used something like Starved Rusalka as your sac outlet, you'd be in the 16 mana ballpark.
enpc on Need a good 6 CMC …
6 years ago
I have been putting together a new combo line for my Saffi Eriksdotter deck which starts with just Saffi, Yisan, the Wanderer Bard and any 1 drop elf dork.
The Yisan line goes:
From here, between Priest of Titania and your other elf dork you're able to generate infinite green mana thanks to a loop with Saffi Eriksdotter, Village Bell-Ringer and Reveillark with Starved Rusalka as your sac outlet. From there you can swap bell-ringer for Felidar Guardian to convert green mana to white mana.
My issue is that that this only nets me infinite mana, not an actual win condition. I was thinking of using a 6 drop fetch to potentially get me the rest of the way.
I have narrowed it down to Triskelion, Woodland Bellower and Soul of the Harvest as win conditions (the draw engines will get me Blasting Station).
So two questions:
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What're people's thoguhts on the viability of the combo, and;
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What would be the best 6 drop creature to use in the deck?
enpc on
You got reanimator in my Selesnya
6 years ago
I'm surprised not to see Phyrexian Altar here - it's broken good and lets your recur Saffi from the command zone with any loop and an ETB draw card creature. It's much better than both Martyr's Cause and Fanatical Devotion.
I have also found Starved Rusalka to be a good sac outlet. While not infinite, having an outlet on a body (especially for Protean Hulk's sake) can help provide a lot of value.
