Oath of Lim-Dul

Enchantment

Whenever you lose life, sacrifice a permanent other than Oath of Lim-Dul or discard a card for each 1 life you lost. (Damage dealt to you causes you to lose life.)

(Black)(Black): Draw a card.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Premodern	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (10)

NV_1980 on To My Grateful Patrons.

3 years ago

Hi m8,

Please help me out, I am trying to figure out the worth of cards like Grid Monitor and Steel Golem. The only situation in which I can see them work really well are in 1-on-1 games or games in which you're trying to disable a (or multiple) creature-heavy deck(s), and all other opponents want the same thing. If this is not the case, whomever you give these critters to will just use em to attack someone (and hopefully for them, get these things killed off). What am I not seeing here?

As for useful additions, Oath of Lim-Dul seems an excellent addition (especially against players who cannot generate black mana). Form of the Dragon also seems like fun, though its expensive to cast.

Kind regards,

NV_1980

marco-piatti on Looking for black enchantments with …

3 years ago

Nefarious Lich and Oath of Lim-Dul?

RNR_Gaming on Future card spike speculation thread

4 years ago

These are my current specs. Commander legends is going really spice up the market

Demonic Pact Forbidden Crypt Immortal Coil Lich's Tomb Nefarious Lich Oath of Lim-Dul Phyrexian Negator

CyborgAeon on Belzenlok, Godo's Ugly Cousin

4 years ago

Some alternatives to cycling cards mentioned above: Brainspoil, Nihilistic Glee, Oath of Lim-Dul, Peer into the Abyss (can be looped with soul spike hard cast to gain infinite mana and life provided you have enough other cards to discard each time as one soul spike gives you 2 "halves" of life to pay each time (1 life + 4 = 5 / 2 = 3 / 2 = 1). So even pitching like 8 cards, you make 16 mana per "cycle", spending 14.

Quickspell on Oath of Lim Dul + …

5 years ago

I've read about Oath of Lim-Dul and Cadaverous Bloom being a good combo. But does that even work? Aren't both cards discard costs different costs that need to be paid independently?

SynergyBuild on

6 years ago

Oh, I love Lim Dul, sadly some of my favorite flavor can't be run, like Lim-Dul's Paladin, and Lim-Dul's Vault.

+1 for the deck, Oath of Lim-Dul wants to be in here! Greed if you don't want the downside can be a replacement >_o

mtgApprentice21 on

6 years ago

Have you tried Omnath, Locus of Mana or Oath of Lim-Dul? How about Mirari or Mirari's Wake? Zuran Orb would work well with your Crucible of Worlds. I like the Ad Nauseam btw. The land-to-nonland ratio in this deck makes it funny as hell. Finally, Reliquary Tower, Venser's Journal, and Library of Leng might be of some use here. Having no maximum hand size is going to help you a LOT in this deck. You may even consider Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur, just for some extra draw/anti-control.

Coward_Token on Grixis!Zedruu

6 years ago

(I would add a proper community card but that feature seems to be malfunctioning right now.)

Farly straightforward, this card would mostly be Zedruu the Greathearted (although a different character, not simply her gone evil or something) with a casting cost of and an activation cost of . In EDH, this could lead to some fun usage of cards like the following:

(I realize you can basically already do this with any Grixis commander + e.g. Bazaar Trader, but that's a bit less straightforward.)

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Vampirism, Pitiless Horde, Aku Djinn, Witch Engine, Yawgmoth Demon, Andradite Leech, Moroii, Ebonblade Reaper, Demonic Hordes, Phyrexian Vatmother, Treacherous Vampire, Takenuma Bleeder, Archdemon of Greed  ^Flip, Immortal Coil, Null Profusion, Phyrexian Negator, Reaver Drone, Blood Funnel, Oni Possession, Benthic Djinn, Yawgmoth's Agenda, Phyrexian Etchings, Master of the Feast, Unholy Fiend, Bloodcurdler, Juzam Djinn, Wretched Anurid, Yukora, the Prisoner, Colfenor's Plans, Sleeper Agent, Gloom Surgeon, Minion of Tevesh Szat, Oath of Lim-Dul, Demonic Pact, Vampire Lacerator, Exiled Boggart, Midnight Oil, Herald of Torment, Jagged Poppet, Flesh Reaver, Measure of Wickedness, Nefarious Lich, Derelor, Ebon Drake, Liege of the Pit, Grinning Demon, Filthy Cur, Fledgling Djinn, Scourge of Numai, Hasran Ogress, Demonic Taskmaster, Thrashing Mudspawn, Gutwrencher Oni, Evil Eye of Urborg, Forbidden Crypt, Bellowing Fiend, Priest of the Blood Rite, Grollub, Xathrid Demon, Blessing of Leeches, Infernal Denizen, Evil Eye of Orms-by-Gore, Minion of Leshrac, Lord of the Pit, Abyssal Persecutor

(Hell, even things like Necropotence, Kothophed, Soul Hoarder, Carnival of Souls, Dark Prophecy, Dralnu, Lich Lord and Corpse Augur can be less-than-pleasant for an unsuited person.)

I'm unsure what would be suitable for its upkeep ability. Just copying Zedruu's straight off isn't too inappropriate, as drawing is certainly associated with black and life gain isn't too far out either, but that's kinda boring. Replacing the life gain with something negative towards opponents like milling, discard or plain life loss proportional to the amount of gifted permanent could be one option that's more in line with the color change (thought the negative effects would probably targeted in order to preserve some political potential). Putting a +1/+1 counter per gift on Zedruu the Grixishearted to take advantage of commander damage could also work (especially when combined with auras like Herald of Torment), in which case you could also change power/toughness from the original's 2/4 to 4/2 to signal greater aggression.

For the sake of flavor its subtype would be Horse Djinn, with the artwork depicting a djinn with a mare's head, wearing a mouth-covering veil.

Feedback would be welcome, especially on ways to make Grixis!Zedruu more distinct from the original while still fulfilling the basic function of giving out torturous black cards, in addition to the blue and red ones they both share.

(A version containing green could also be made for the sake of giving that color a chance to show off its painful cards, in which case the creature in question should probably have monkey paws.)