lithoform engine and cipher spells or cast copy spells

Asked by ShadowRaven 3 years ago

can i use Lithoform Engine to copy spells with the cipher ability like Stolen Identity ? can this be done with Lithoform Engine first or second tap ability?

Polaris says... Accepted answer #1

Yes. Either ability will work.

Cipher sets up a delayed triggered ability that lets you cast a copy of the ciphered card. Since it's a triggered ability that casts a spell, you can use either of the first two abilities of Lithoform Engine . The first ability will let you copy the cipher trigger and cast a copy of the exiled card twice, and the second ability will let you copy the spell once it's gone onto the stack.

April 15, 2021 2:22 p.m.

ShadowRaven says... #2

Thank you Polaris. i was trying to find a rule text that confirms this and could not.

April 15, 2021 3:13 p.m.

Note that cipher doesn’t set up any delayed triggered abilities. It grants the creature upon which the instant/sorcery was encoded the ability “Whenever this creature deals combat damage to a player, you may copy the encoded card and you may cast the copy without paying its mana cost.” (Which is a regular triggered ability.)

April 15, 2021 5 p.m.

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