Liliana's mastery ain't legal! Whoops

slizzered_wizard, 6 years ago

Editing to replace liliana's mastery

cut some cards, still need to cut some more...

fringeking, 6 years ago

I cut about 15 cards making this deck now 131 instead of 149 cards.

First Round of Cuts and Upgrades

Ethereal_Reaper, 6 years ago

Alright, so the precon deck looks fun, but it's really not my thing. It runs a really heavy wheel theme (which actually isn't all that bad) but Yidris is not the commander meant to handle that. I'll be leaving the wheels to Nekusar and Niv Mizzet. However, wheels can actually provide a decent source of card draw in a storm deck. They also allow cascade to really shine when you have a fresh hand of options. So for the first round, we're just going to cut cards that wheel and cascade, and start getting some storm cards in there. Cuts: -1 Academy Elite -1 Aeon Chronicler -1 Bituminous Blast -1 Blood Tyrant -1 Bloodbraid Elf -1 Boompile -1 Chain of Vapor -1 Coiling Oracle -1 Cruel Entertainment -1 Etherium-Horn Sorcerer -1 Frenzied Fugue -1 Gamekeeper -1 Ghastly Conscription -1 Goblin Spymaster -1 Grave Upheaval -1 Horizon Chimera -1 Parting Thoughts -1 Reforge the Soul -1 Rupture Spire -1 Satyr Wayfinder -1 Spellheart Chimera -1 Spelltwine -1 Thrasios, Triton Hero -1 Treacherous Terrain -1 Vial Smasher the Fierce -1 Wall of Blossoms -1 Whims of the Fates -1 Worm Harvest Additions: +1 Aetherflux Reservoir +1 Anger +1 Blood Mist +1 Brainstorm +1 Bring to Light +1 Dark Petition +1 Dark Ritual +1 Dig Through Time +1 Diluvian Primordial +1 Disdainful Stroke +1 Farseek +1 Frantic Search +1 Grapeshot +1 Mana Geyser +1 Mind's Desire +1 Notion Thief +1 Ponder +1 Preordain +1 Rampant Growth +1 Sakura-Tribe Elder +1 Seeds of Renewal +1 Sepulchral Primordial +1 Snuff Out +1 Swan Song +1 Temporal Fissure +1 Temur Ascendancy +1 Tendrils of Agony +1 Wonder

Need help.

jonny909090, 6 years ago

I decided to start working on this deck again. I added some cards that actually make the combo possible. I am currently testing a few cards, but need to get the deck back down to 60 cards if possible.

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lostpilgrimblog, 6 years ago

-1 Craterhoof Behemoth +1 Sheoldred, Whispering One

Update #1

Olde_English, 6 years ago

Still working on finishing the primer for this deck. I'm putting a lot of love into the description so hopefully that will pay off. I subbed out a lot of my stax pieces for more elves, discard and aggro pieces. My stax package was too unreliable so I narrowed it down to the fundamental pieces. My goal is to find a balance between aggro, discard, stax and combo. Most Nath lists go too heavy one way or another and I think that hurts Nath's overall potential. I like having multiple gameplans so I can adapt to whatever my opponents throw at me. Now it's time for some more playtesting to see how these changes worked out!

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lostpilgrimblog, 6 years ago

+1 Recruiter of the Guard +1 Hermit Druid +1 Demonic Tutor +1 Necromancy +1 Survival of the Fittest -1 Loxodon Gatekeeper -1 Mikaeus, the Unhallowed -1 Sheoldred, Whispering One -1 Akroma's Vengeance -1 Sidisi, Undead Vizier

Deck update

enrico81, 6 years ago

Replaced Putrefy with Maelstrom Pulse

Upgrades

goodair, 6 years ago

Got:
Stoneforge Mystic, Sword of Fire and Ice, Sword of Feast and Famine and have been super powerful, so many evasive creatures to get the swords to connect!
Gaddock Teeg and Containment Priest prices have HEAVILY dropped and those will be added soon.
Cuts:
Haven't cut anything expect for Dismiss into Dream. Its very very powerful but felt like a winmore/or a bad card to play in the situation. Maybe I will come back to this card in the future. Will make more cuts in the future through playing the deck.

Upgrades

goodair, 6 years ago

Got:
Stoneforge Mystic, Sword of Fire and Ice, Sword of Feast and Famine and have been super powerful, so many evasive creatures to get the swords to connect!
Gaddock Teeg and Containment Priest prices have HEAVILY dropped and those will be added soon.
Cuts:
Haven't cut anything expect for Dismiss into Dream. Its very very powerful but felt like a winmore/or a bad card to play in the situation. Maybe I will come back to this card in the future. Will make more cuts in the future through playing the deck.

FNM 12/7

cstick, 6 years ago

Not a great run for me last Friday; I went 1-2-1. Round 1: vs Mardu Pyromancer. Game one I didn't have an answer for his pyromancer and spirit tokens. Game two he was able to play Liliana early and ultimate it. Round 2: vs Humans. Game one is pretty unfortunate; I end up with a hand with 3 hawks and 3 rangers getting shut down by a pair of meddling mages. Game 2 I don't really remember, but I also lost. Round 3: vs Black Devotion (splashing red). In game one I almost die, but draw Wrath of God just in time, and end up stabilizing with emeria. In game 2, he gets stuck on 3 lands and I play Gideon. Round 4: vs Jeskai Control. Game one is pretty long, but I end up losing to Teferi's ultimate. In game 2, Copter and Gideon get the job done, with some help from Sorcerous Spyglass. Time gets called as we're shuffling up for game 3 (I scoop so my opponent can get a pack).
MDN 15 / 7

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Shingouki, 6 years ago

No change in the main but a couple big changes in the side.

4x Goblin Electromancer for 4x Ral, Izzet Viceroy

2x Murmuring Mystic for 2x firey cannonade

add - remove

Kholek, 6 years ago

Remove - Dauntless Aven

Although it does untap. I feel it's a bit slow.

Add - Carpet Flowers

This was suggested and was a great idea. the value is insane.

Remove - Eldritch Evolution

it is a tutor but with all the card draw and mana ramps, for the CMC cost and Sac... its just to expensive.

Add - Asceticism

This is some amazing protection. and creature saves.

Remove - Broken Bond

being removal and some protection. Asceticism is better in it's place

Add - Mana Vault

Was lucky to pull this out of a masters pack. had to make room for it in this deck

Problems

Swiftwind777, 6 years ago

Deck has a big problem in early game, as well as closing out games. Added a few wincons, but still feels like there are too few.