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A lot of your creatures provide energy as they ETB so have you considered Panharmonicon as a way of accruing even more. Animation Module and Fabrication Module both provide means of getting even more +1/+1 counters and are good mana sinks if the game goes long.
September 21, 2016 7:46 a.m.
Yeah monkeyprophet there are a tone of good Artifacts that can be played and I considered and playtested most of them.
In the end it came down to choosing the most effective ones, which I believe I have done.
Panharmonicon hits the field late. If it was cheaper it would have made the cut. I've got other ways of getting Energy Counters.
At the end of the day I can't win with a field full of Artifacts.
I also don't to get TOO invested in getting +1/+1 Counters, or I run the risk of investing a lot of tech into something that can be easily wrecked with a Declaration in Stone.
I will keep your suggestions in mind if I find that the deck needs a fair bit of tweaking.
September 21, 2016 9:41 a.m.
Love the deck. Big fan of Longtusk Cub and long to playtest him.
I do think the mana base is a bit greedy with Aetherstorm Roc and Bristling Hydra on the curve. Granted Servant of the Conduit is here to help. Aether Hub seems like an auto 4x of to lock in the drops on turn 4. But if not four a couple seem good, too. Not sure about 4x Sea Gate Wreckage. Seems a tad redundant for Standard. Particularly because it's situational and provides just colorless.
September 21, 2016 11:44 p.m.
HairyManBack you're absolutely right, and echoed what I've been thinking.
September 22, 2016 1:16 a.m.
Yeah, I think you'll be happy with Aether Hub. Could see some kind of utility land alongside Hub. Would guess playtesting in the field would answer that.
Not sure yet how good Hub is in Standard quite yet. But in energy builds its gotta be the best land option, imo. It's a superior reprint that already sees play in Modern and other formats. Which says a lot to me. Probably one of the best cards I've seen in Kaladesh. Still I could be wrong. ...But this old school player doesn't think so. :D
September 23, 2016 6:34 p.m.
I wouldn't play any other land that produces colourless. I need all the White and Green sources, and this card doesn't muck that up.
Sometimes one more Energy Counter is just what you need.
September 23, 2016 9:29 p.m.
You know, for the folks on Engineered Might ...
September 27, 2016 8:55 p.m.
What do you think of Attune with Aether as an energy source and a fixer for 1 mana?
I tried to make a Energy Fog deck here and it produces a lot of energy! Just lacks a bit of a finisher.. Energized Fog
September 27, 2016 10:23 p.m.
This deck has enough Ramp going on, and has no way of playing extra land.
It made far more sense to have a Creature in place of this non-creature spell as you get the EC PLUS an extra body on the board.
September 27, 2016 11:41 p.m.
My thoughts are that Hardened Scales is not a Standard legal card and this is a Standard deck.
September 28, 2016 2:01 a.m.
Unfortunately we can no longer sequester our stash as it seems to have disappeared.
September 28, 2016 2:05 a.m.
This isn't much against ramp or heavy-hitter decks. Maybe more removal, or some buffs to kill your opponents faster with your flyers?Gets killed by this..http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/repeating-shotgun/playtest/
September 30, 2016 1:23 a.m.
Have you considered swapping Immolating Glare for Blessed Alliance? It provides a similar effect as often i can see you wanting to side it in against decks that have a big powerful threat that will be the only thing attacking. It also gets around Emrakul, the Promised End's protection from instants and indestructible creatures aren't safe from it. It also provides extra utility against burn decks with the life gain and can blow out combats with it's untap mode. And of course later in the game you can use all 3 to really mess an opponents day.
September 30, 2016 6:41 a.m.
There are a few things that your deck (potentially) could benefit of:
Card-draw or looting (to cycle out excess Authority of the Consuls (you really just need 1) and mana): Smuggler's Copter or Geier Reach Sanitarium are possibilities. You could also set in Skywhaler's Shot I guess for removal and scry. Bomat Bazaar Barge could work since you could crew if you have a counter most your 2-cmc creatures (also, there are actually a number of hasted vehicles you could summon, crew (Fleetwheel Cruiser don't need that!) and give flying with Eddytrail Hawk...)
Protection from Black & White: Since Consulate Surveillance doesn't protect your creatures against effects that say "destroy" or "exile", you might want something against that in your sideboard..? Cataclysmic Gearhulk against superfriends, maybe?
... phew. Sorry for writing all that. Didn't intend for it to be that much at first.
September 30, 2016 6:59 a.m.
Colorschemer this deck relies on as much synergy with Energy Counters as possible to work. A lot of your suggestions don't, so they aren't right for it.
I will respond to a couple of them, as I don't want to be here all night.
Since I want the best chance possible to get Authority of the Consuls in my opening hand it will remain as a four of. You do realise that more copies on the field give me more life for each Oppponent Creature played?
I don't want to use flicker effects as most of my Creatures will be accruing +1/+1 Counters. I have heard this idea before, but I'd rather have a Creature that gives me Energy Counters and a body, than a card that does the same thing, but only if I have a Creature already on the field.
My Creatures that grow big ARE my finishers. If I was gonna add something to the mix it would be Always Watching , not Gideon. However, I'd rather have the Enchantments I've chosen than either of those.
September 30, 2016 10:17 a.m.
monkeyprophet I've played a lot of games using Celestial Flare in the past. I don't want a card that may not get rid of the Creature I want to. Immolating Glare will primarily be used to get rid of Land Creatures.
September 30, 2016 10:22 a.m.
September 30, 2016 10:55 a.m.
I'm fully aware of the lifegain a stack of Authority of the Consuls can provide, and a high guarantee for drawing early it is nice, but it seems a little... redundant when you might need a card that can turn the tide.
Maybe you're right for all I know. Was just my two cents.
September 30, 2016 11 a.m.
I will definitely replace Consulate Surveillance with it, if I think it will work better.
At this stage I'm going to wait and see how this original version of the deck goes before I adjust it.
I played the Nissa Planeswalker deck tonight, with a few tweaks. It's GB Energy Counters.
It actually played very well, making me confident that an Energy focused deck can succeed.
September 30, 2016 1:58 p.m.
WHAAAAAAA? How did you get it to code in BOTH OF YOU as the author? o.O
September 30, 2016 9:22 p.m.
AwezomePozzum there's a new box you can put another user's name in on the editing page.
October 1, 2016 1:14 a.m.
Slevin1204 it might be good in an Artifact heavy deck, but in this build there are far better options.
October 1, 2016 2:37 p.m.
I think you are onto something very powerful here... I took your concept and turned it into a naya build by adding Territorial Gorger. He is an ABSOLUTE beast here and is easily castable with the current mana base due to the energy filter dorks and the energy flter lands. I also added another energy dump via 2x Architect of the Untamed. Also I threw in 3x Woodweaver's Puzzleknot for more energy production and it has resulted in a high pay off. So the question I have for you is... do you think this deck would become more of a threat via a naya build? Or would it be better as a different 3 color combination? Blue offers some interesting energy dumps too. Anyways +1 for a great idea, I will be doing some heavy brewing thanks to you!
October 1, 2016 2:54 p.m.
Do you think Nissa vital force could get a Spot as a 1-of or 2-of in the deck?
October 1, 2016 3:01 p.m.
Seems really cool Have you thought about nissa voice of zendikarOr nissa vital force?Besides that I truly like the deck and I am considering building it if you could fit in a nissa I'll love it but for now +1
October 2, 2016 6:01 p.m.
I've tested with both Nissas.
To add them I either have to take out some Creatures, which interrupts the synergy, or remove one of my only four pierces of removal, or the ongoing benefit given by Consulate Surveillance.
What would you see as the benefit Nissa gives that is worth sticking her in the deck, other than just more +1/+1 Counters, and what would you remove?
October 3, 2016 2:50 a.m.
Exiled_soul thanks for the kind words!
There are so many colours you could splash in this deck. I like your take on adding Red.
If I was going to splash it would probably be Blue. It can really help to get extra EC, and I like some of the other effects it offers.
I'm glad I inspired you and I'll try to find some time to check out your deck.
October 3, 2016 4:39 a.m.
What card(s) will you add if you want to make it naya/bant?
October 3, 2016 11:16 a.m.
You need to chat with Exiled_soul about what Red cards to include, as that was not my idea.
October 3, 2016 11:27 a.m.
October 3, 2016 12:02 p.m.
Sorry if this was asked already but with all the ETB effects here have you thought of adding in 2 or so of Panharmonicon ? Seems it would really RAMP your energy generation up by a whole lot and speed the game up more if thats something you'd like to do.
Edit: I see above why it's not considered. Disregard and nice deck lol
October 3, 2016 12:58 p.m.
This deck is friggen crazy, playtested it 5 times against my G/U midrange and only beat it once due to a fluke, not sure if it holds up against aggro but I can't imagine it exactly struggles in the first place.
October 4, 2016 12:46 a.m.
Va1kyrie yeah, this thing gets out of hand with +1/+1 Counters being spread around, and stopping other Creatures from blocking.
October 4, 2016 3:19 a.m.
Need suggestion for this deckBant Energy ramp Btw, it is inspired by your deck :D
October 4, 2016 5:31 a.m.
How good is Authority of the Consuls? Haven't playtested it yet.
Btw, feels like Blossoming Defense is an auto 'X' of in the 75. Not sure if I have too much of a Modern perspective but it seems so good. However, I could see it be somewhat of a meta call, too.
October 21, 2016 12:34 a.m.
I'm quite happy to have only my Bristling Hydra get Hexproof, and prefer Nature's Way, because of the Trample and destroying Opponent Creatures. Due to what it does Nature's Way just offers so much more than Blossoming Defense, at each stage of the game.
Authority of the Consuls completely nerfs aggro decks, especially those with Vehicles that rely on Creatures to Crew as soon as they hit the field.
It tends to be the first card I Sideboard out, if it doesn't curb my Opponent.
October 21, 2016 4:16 a.m.
Ic. When Nature's Way was spoiled it looked to be the best 'fight' green removal to date. I've done almost nothing with the new Standard and I've been looking at what it's evolved/ing into. Furthermore, energy mechanic has shown to be much more impactful than I thought. Didn't even think energy would make Standard outside Aether Hub and Harnessed Lightning. And maybe some other less great cards only to warrant Hub and Lightning.
Last night I did play against a deck with Authority. It was annoying for what it did effect. Seems like a good card.
October 21, 2016 5:22 p.m.
I play very casually with a group of friends and I made this deck for a bit of fun... it rocks, I didn't loose a game and beat a guy who plays FNM regularly! Good job
October 30, 2016 3:54 p.m.
Glad the deck played well for you Bodyrocker, and that you were able to kick some arse!
Thanks for the positive feedback.
October 30, 2016 7:02 p.m.
Don't think anyone has mentioned Eddytrail Hawk. Not a big fan of him but it looks like 1-2 MB over 1-2 Sage of Shaila's Claim. But is needed? I don't know. Sage's 2/1 body and is great. But flying over with a huge Hydra or Cub looks tempting.
Your whole deck is built to push through the damage. Did think, however, if a couple Eddys where here it potentially could loosen up other spells. Especially games 2-3
November 14, 2016 7:58 p.m.
Double poster. Possible 2-4 Servant of the Conduit for 3rd turn beef sticks. Still Shalia's energy is great here.
November 14, 2016 8:03 p.m.
Sorry but that's a No on both counts, HairyManBack.
Can't see myself making any more changes at the moment because it's playing so strongly.
November 14, 2016 9:42 p.m.
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