MTG Combo: Ajani's Chosen + Enchanted Evening

KingKilvas on No war please (in Ukraine)

2 years ago

First off, I wanted to say kudos to you for making a deck promoting peace and the people of Ukraine. Good on you.

Now for deckbuilding stuff. It's a little sad you don't have the means to actually achieve happily ever after. Maybe a few cards that allow you to temporarily change the colors of permanents, or one of the couple cards that are all colors could help.

While it's not super on theme, you could try some combos like Pariah + Stuffy Doll targeting yourself, Platinum Angel + Transcendence , Arbiter of Knollridge + Celestial Convergence , or Ajani's Chosen + Enchanted Evening , all of which create states in the game that force a draw.

leptokurtic on 2 Vasa 2 Furious

5 years ago

Ajani's Chosen + Enchanted Evening makes infinite cats and draws the game. It's not a may ability to make the enchantment cat, so unless you have a way to remove one of the combo pieces, you're kind of stuck. This deck doesn't have enough instant speed removal/sac, and drawing the game doesn't sound like much fun, so I cut the combo.

elgosu1337 on cEDH 5C Enchantress Constellation

6 years ago

Really loving that Conflux + Dream Halls combo!

It's a pity you aren't a fan of the Ajani's Chosen + Enchanted Evening combo. (I came across your deck via the combo, which I included in a crazy Zur tribal deck.) Ajani's Chosen doesn't seem that beneficial to your deck otherwise. Perhaps an Attrition to make use of the tokens? That would also help you sacrifice Aura Thief. Aura Shards would also be really powerful with the cats and your other token-generators.

Cleansing Meditation is a good backup for Calming Verse.

Enchanted Evening + Opalescence becomes a one-sided Armageddon if you have Mirari's Wake out. Could be worth a mention along with your Doomwake Giant + Living Plane wipe.

AlphaAuthority on cEDH 5C Enchantress Constellation

6 years ago

SynergyBuild I don't like infinite comboes, so I don't build around or with them. The Ajani's Chosen + Enchanted Evening combo isn't something I would do in a game, which is why it's not mentioned and descriped in the description :-)

I do simply not own Earthcraft, otherwise I might have been able to build a bit more around it. But in general something like that needs to be build around. And a 5C deck can't really handle or depend on basics, I can because of landtutor and ramp handle some. But not more. I'm kinda deciding wether to cut a basic or not, I'm testing that currently

Rurara_Rahura on Diplomatic Immunity

6 years ago

Thanks MrSilk, I'm glad someone is having as good a time as I do with this deck.

Your alterations are all great. The main reason my version is composed this way is mostly due to the time that I chose to build it. Then, Beseech the Queen was a little difficult to get my hands on because it hadn't yet been reprinted. On top of that, the only reason I'm not running Fiend Hunter + Reveillark is because they didn't exist until several months later.

I originally had three Scour in the deck but I moved them to the sideboard and eventually they fell out of rotation. Since I picked up the Snow-covered basic lands though, I may sneak it back in. Basically, the deck plays a very hard game and I was getting a lot of guff for gutting people's decks.

I'm sure the reason people are not as threatened by Ajani's Chosen + Enchanted Evening is because they've forgotten the horror that is the Shadowmoore block, lol.

Pariah + Stuffy Doll is meant as a back-up. I can only think of one game I've played that it was absolutely necessary, wherein a player removed all my Enchanted Evenings from the game. So Stuffy Doll threatened a draw until I could find three Oblivion Ring to manually kill them. My Stuffy Doll plays are often on turn 5 when I don't have Enchanted Evening.~~~~~

In regard to your questions:1, There are exactly 33% lands in the deck. This is for my comfort mostly, but if you're using the deck in an online game then that may be the issue. Most shuffling algorithms will shuffle far better than we might by hand so the land-to-non-land ratio can get sidelined. I can't guarantee that this will fix it, but you can try to pair down the following cards to three copies each: Stuffy Doll, Echoing Calm, Oblivion Ring, Pariah. If your composition is still similar to my version then that would give you about 40% lands, which I consider to be "flooded" lol.

If you're not using it online then the above suggestion could still work, but I would just spend some extra time shuffling between games.

2, The best opening hand in my opinion is:Angel's Grace (or Providence), Blasting Station, Pariah, Ajani's Chosen, two Plains and a Swamp. With this composition you have an equal probability (7% + 0.2% per card drawn) to draw into either Stuffy Doll or Enchanted Evening.

During the game you only have two options every turn. Either A, Continue with your own plan and get closer to finishing the combo you want; or B, Disrupt your opponent's plan by removing one of their important permanents. If you are doing either of these things then you're on the right track, but don't get discouraged if you have to keep spending your turns on dealing with your opponent because the more turns you spend the higher probability that your winning draw is on the next turn.

On turn 5, if you don't have a complete combo (given the opening hand in this example) then you should have just under 20% probability to draw what you need and anything you draw that isn't part of the combo can be used to control the field, save your lifepoints, or tutor for the missing piece.

Beyond turn 5 your focus should be on disrupting your opponent. So hold on to Angel's Grace as long as possible and concentrate on removing threats. Do not hesitate to throw Pariah on one of your opponent's creatures if you're in the shit. That one enchantment has saved me more times than any other card in the deck!

In the future I'm going to improve this build with a set of Inquisition of Kozilek for sharper removal. So use those if you have a few copies and your first three turns should be very comfortable.

MrHighscore on Leeching Cotton: Oloro's Couch

7 years ago

Thank you for the suggestions!

@Moxer

• Declaration of Naught is certainly worth considering. If used as protection against board wipes, I think I'd be better off with another counter spell, but versus troublesome commanders (e.g., Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury) it is pure gold (just like Nevermore). I am adding it to my mental maybe board.
• I don't remember if Glacial Chasm has come up before, but it is also worth a consideration. It can keep me safe from a lot of things if played at the right time. I don't think that I can afford to take out another land for it, so if I bring it in, it will be at the cost of an enchantment, and I'm not too happy about that either. I'll think about it.

@TheRedGoat

• I don't have to do anything, but I chose to go all in on enchantments. I am even considering getting rid of Academy Rector.
• Daxos the Returned is not for this deck (I do have a Daxos' Enchanted Spirits in the making). It takes a while to rack up experience and his main purpose is to create creature tokens. I do what I can to make creatures suck as much as possible.
• Starfield of Nyx: The recursion is awesome (when Rest in Peace is not on the field). The creature part not so much. It is too much of a liability to loose all my enchantments to a board wipe or Terror or Doomblade or ... and I do what I can to make creatures suck as much as possible.
• Sigil of the Empty Throne: I don't think it will work. Fairly slow and the creatures suck theme :)
• Ajani's Chosen + Enchanted Evening : The loop will never end. I have to destroy Ajani's Chosen (while in the loop) to avoid a draw. 104.4b. Please correct me if I am wrong.
• Demonic Pact + Shifting Loyalties : This is fun, but a bit risky. It could make it into a one on one version of the deck, but in multiplayer this is too much of a slot investment to (potentially) take out one opponent.

Cheers

TheRedGoat on Leeching Cotton: Oloro's Couch

7 years ago

Okay, this looks like a super solid build, but I'd like to pick your brain on a few choices you've left out.

First and foremost, did you really have to go so creature light as to having no Daxos the Returned, Starfield of Nyx, or Sigil of the Empty Throne?

Another set of options I see missing is an infinite token combo with Ajani's Chosen + Enchanted Evening . Play anything with the 2 out and you'll start a loop to get infinite enchantment cats.

Lastly, I learned from a daring standard player that Demonic Pact + Shifting Loyalties can make for a hilariously spiteful win condition when you gift them the pact after picking all but the lose the game choice. Bonus points if you opt for Puca's Mischief instead of the loyalty card. Obligatory credit to source link here