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You may have Copy Artifact enter the battlefield as a copy of any artifact on the battlefield, except it's an enchantment in addition to its other types.
Copy Artifact Discussion
5 days ago
I understand the reasoning behind the lack of 2 cmc rocks, but I also really like not having to worry as much about recasting Urza if he gets countered/destroyed. I haven't tested it, but on paper it seems a bit more safe.
I also really dislike Recurring Insight. Why not just use Urza's last ability more times with that mana? I've playtested this build multiple times now and tbh I've never drawn more than 4-5 cards (and that's casting the card in two different games). It just seems really bad.
Additionally, I think that Rings+Basalt+Power Artifact should be added in. There's a lot of synergy to be found in the cards and easy wins pop out when you cast them. I can understand the reasoning behind inclusions like Future Sight and Jeweled Amulet (especially after playtesting them), but the deck feels weird without those strong cards.
My CEDH for the last 3-4 years was Arcum, and the builds of the decks, in my eyes, were going to be quite similar. Obviously, different wincons, but ramping into a 4 cmc general that, if left unanswered, would win. It feels strange to be playing a Mono-U artifact-based deck that doesn't run some of these cards.
Lastly, your primer mentions winning with a Teferi ult but no teferi is found in the deck. Also, another budget option for timetwister (at least based on my playtesting) is Echo of Eons . I kinda understand your reasoning for replacing twister with Stroke of Genius , but the cards seem to fill different purposes, hitting it off an uzra activation seems really bad, and why not just run Blue Sun's Zenith ? Time Spiral may also be worth looking into. The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale needs a) a budget replacement or b) to just be cut in general. It's not the worst thing in the list at all but has some major issues that others have mentioned in the comments. Also, Trinisphere is obviously really good, but don't you have to tap it during your turn to not be affected by it? And if so, wouldn't that make it not work on your opponents' turn? (Without unwinding clock, of course.) You also have Impulse and Copy Artifact in the main and maybeboards.
I think there's still some work to be done with this list. After playtesting, I wish I had a bit more creature removal and less instances when I just durdle out. I hope to see some changes!
Last thing: snow-covered lands are for people who run Extraplanar Lens or what?
6 days ago
Your opponents will have full hands of their deck. They will lose after the second cast.
Yawg is just too broken not to play. On the combo turn you can use a hard outlet - like Winds of Rebuke - to win that turn as well.
Re: Journey; Journey is in the list (like Twister) to enable a win beyond Copy Artifact . But yes, as you said, the loop does work. The two combos in PST really like one another. (:
New Narset is kinda cute with wheel effects and draw locking. But realistically most of the other WAR walkers are not playable/worthwhile in this shell. However, if you want to try a WAR walker, Narset is definitely the one to try.
1 week ago
First of all, this list has been retired for a few months. If I was still updating it, I would for sure take out Mox Amber , Copy Artifact , Snapcaster Mage and Daze , as well as most of the card draw stuff like Dig Through Time . However, there are cards I stand by that you listed to cut. The fetches don't matter, except I have them and I can flex. There may be no reason to run them but there's also no reason not to. Power Artifact is a backup plan with the monoliths and Walking Ballista , in case Arcum gets shut down. Strip Mine is actually fine, and Merchant's Dockhand is just a 1 mana sac target, one that just so happens to have an ability that isn't useless if it gets to that point. Guardian Idol is a rock that can be a creature of necessary, and Everflowing Chalice is just a rock, it doesn't need to be searched, and I don't see why it would ever need to be. Metalworker is very good, it can get a ton of mana to hardcast your combo pieces if they get stuck in your hand. I don't see why you say the creatures are slow, the main sac targets are 0 and 1 mana, which is what most decks usually play. I used to play Darksteel Forge and Mycosynth Lattice but I took them out because I found that it's useless to tutor for them. I would rather win then durdle around with indestructible. In most cases your stuff wouldn't be destroyed, rather countered which indestructible doesn't help with much. On the contrary, Delay and Flusterstorm are both must haves. A combo that wins on turn 1-4 90% of the time is useless if you can't protect it. I don't know if you've played in a real cEDH game, but if you haven't, I suggest watching a few videos on the YouTube channel Laboratory Maniacs. They play cEDH games. Most of these games don't end on turns 1-4, as everyone has some kind of response to the other's important spells. If you can't protect your stuff or take out your opponents key pieces, you lose.
2 weeks ago
I play an Arcum Dagsson list that combos off between 1 and 4 in 90% of games. I would ditch the fetches, you don't need to thin the deck as you aren't topdecking you are searching so you don't need to thin out the lands you draw. I run Codex Shredder in mine as a way to A. Infinite mill when the deck goes infinite any way and it's a safeguard for Paradox Engine . Ditch some of your spells and focus more on combo as earlier as possible, I feel this is split between a control edh and combo edh and you want to focus it as much as possible, I would ditch Strip Mine because it's a dead draw if you topdeck and pretty dead in start hand, you want your land base mostly blue as most arty ramp is colourless, ditch Mox Amber as it's mostly useless to you, ditch Snapcaster Mage as it's not worth it, it holds up an opponent but will mainly hold up you more. Tolaria West is definitely worth running as is the land that gives a creature haste, Hall of the Bandit Lord or something (the name escapes me), Flusterstorm isn't worth running, Power Artifact isn't worth it - that's not the direction the deck is going, I'd ditch Daze , Metalworker , Merchant's Dockhand , Guardian Idol , Everflowing Chalice , Copy Artifact , Dig Through Time , and Delay . The creatures are too slow, Everflowing Chalice can't be searched for with Arcum Dagsson so is a waste, Copy Artifact is neat but too slow and uses your precious blue mana, Dig Through Time is slow and clunky, and you likely won't have enough stuff in the graveyard to cast it cheap. I run Mycosynth Lattice in mine, Arcum Dagsson can sac himself if desperate, you can remove all opponents critters, and sac any of yours, also stops blue mana being an issue, and Darksteel Forge protect all your stuff then. I run an Eldrazi titan in mine (ramp into it early most people will freak) and it's useful to shuffle your grave if stuff gets hard, surprised not to see Junk Diver as a backup combo piece, and Aetherflux Reservoir is your biggest asset and yet wasn't in the list, I'll add a link to my list in a moment.
3 weeks ago
Seems like it occasionally may be hard to get your lands to come in untapped. To help, I would recommend Land Tax in addition to your Exploration . Getting more fetchlands may not be the most pleasing to the wallet, but they will help too. Consider the filter lands as well. I am also a fan of Copy Artifact just for its versatility any time of the game.
3 weeks ago
I'm kind of agreeing with the first poster. This is just extra turns Narset with minimal ways to do infect damage... I'd cut the gimmick. My suggestions will fall in that category and I'll try to suggest some cuts too.
Copy Artifact for Simian Spirit Guide.
Smoke for ??? (This one is meta dependent)
Ral Zarek , Temporal Manipulation , Time Stretch , Time Warp , Waves of Aggression , Walk the Aeons , and Time Warp for Madcap Skills, Eldrazi Conscrption, Aetherflux Resevoir, Angelic Destiny, Stitch in Time, Refurbish and Open the Armory.
Feel free to check out my list for other ideas including your lands. Upvotes on any of my decks are appreciated. Narset, American Beauty
3 weeks ago
Okay lets break down the justifications you gave, because I still think they merit changing.
Choosing not to run Mishra's Workshop in a deck that combos and staxs with artifacts is just silly. The problem is far more with your deck building choices of running 20 artifacts in an artifact commander oriented deck than the card itself. I shouldn't have to explain the value of 3 extra mana going towards your paradox engine or a stax piece like trinisphere, but apparently I do. Getting to winning pieces faster is better, run it. You also have the luxury of a mulligan on hands when its dead, similar to how Gaea's Cradle is a great card but dead in some hands.
Seat of the Synod combos with Mox Opal Transmute Artifact Inventors' Fair Reshape Unwinding Clock and is pullable for X=0 from Tezzeret the Seeker or Whir of Invention , meaning you can ramp in mono blue. Also recoverable from GY with Academy Ruins . Meanwhile, it nonbos with Back to Basics . Do some cost/benefit analysis and come back to me on that one.
Expedition Map is tutor density, which is your single biggest problem. If you are in a creature heavy meta, it functions as Tabernacle #2, why would you not run it? The value engine with Academy Ruins is icing on the cake. It's also part of a tutor chain using Inventors' Fair which leads to winning lines. Calling it cute without realizing it gives you more consistency with another winning line that also grinds value is just ignorant. Similar to Seat of the Synod , look at your own cards before rejecting inclusions.
Legacy's Allure is 100% a bad card. Assuming you somehow land that on turn 1, it still isn't anywhere close to live until turn 3. Unless the opposing creature is already on the board turn 1, your opponent will remove it before they play whatever creature they need that you would steal anyways, and if the creature is on the board turn 1 you should remove it before turn 3 anyways. Many stax creatures are symmetrical, so stealing one does nothing because those decks are designed to work around the effects. Also Gitrog is a 6/6 so assuming turn 1 Allure it still won't be live until turn 7, at which point Gitrog has already won. You can make the argument for proliferate, but you aren't running any. Aether Spellbomb is faster, combos with your commander, can turn itself into a cantrip if there aren't good creature targets, synergizes with that giant list of cards I talked about with Seat of the Synod, and is less color intensive. If you really need another theft effect, Vedalken Shackles is significantly better and combos all the same ways.
Howling Mine grinds values in longer games. Even if you give your opponent 1 or 2 cards, if you end up drawing 6 or 7 cards from it you are getting a better advantage. It works better in a stax build over a combo build, but then that leads to my next point. If you're really scared run Blinkmoth Well
You should build this as a stax deck. Compare this to an Arcum Dagson deck. The reason that is able to be a fast combo deck is because it has a tutor in the command zone that leads to winning lines. Meanwhile, Urza generates mana and expensive card advantage from the command zone, which benefits you when games go longer. Why would anyone build this deck with these pieces when Arcum does the same thing but better? They are the same CMC, but Dagson is less color intensive so its easier to ramp into with mono blue.
Even if you are trying to run this as fast combo, you aren't making good choices. Why are you running Fact or Fiction and not Frantic Search ? Why is your counterspell density so high when you should be tutoring or drawing to win? 13 counterspells with the meme new Narset spell for 14? Why? The card advantage your deck generates isn't high enough to sustain a package that big. If you're trying to fast combo why are you focusing on playing defensive? You don't need that many counterspells to protect your own combo.
Why are you running Power Artifact but not Basalt Monolith ? Otherwise power artifact is literally a dead draw if Grim Monolith is gone or unavailable. It opens up more options to get infinite and win with Urza
Cut Future Sight . Focus on assembling infinite mana to use Urza as an outlet. Not a single cEDH list runs it for a reason, expensive and slow. If you have infinite mana to plow through your deck with Future Sight you can just do the same with Urza. Wasted slot.
Running Isochron Scepter Dramatic Reversal and Copy Artifact but you aren't running Winds of Rebuke . It has high value outside combo, and high value inside combo. Currently you only have one method of drawing deck outside Urza (Paradox + Voltaic Key + Sensei's Top), which means you are very liable to be hit with Meddling Mage or Pithing Needle or Phyrexian Revoker or Cursed Totem , all of which see play and make your Jace and Labman into dead draws. You should also consider Blue Sun's Zenith for similar reasons, gives an outlet for infinite mana if Urza is turned off or unavailable.
3 weeks ago
I have never been unhappy to draw Copy Artifact at any time during my game. Good way to copy your opponent's mana rocks in the early game and shit like Blightsteel Colossus late game. Its a staple card for me not only in my Atraxa, but in EDH in general.
Copy Artifact occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%