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Creature — Phyrexian Carrier
As this enters the battlefield, choose a creature type.
Creatures of the chosen type your opponents control get -1/-1,
1 month ago
If you're expecting to get Staff of Domination out, I feel like even a single Ezuri, Renegade Leader is probably about as much 'brute force' offense as you need, this would also free up cards vs using x4 Forerunners that could be too small vs life gain decks, infinite mana and Ezuri is infinite trample damage off of even 1 untapped elf. I also run Blossoming Bogbeast as an infinite finisher, but I have x2 Primal Command to recycle my graveyard while gaining life, making the Bogbeast potentially infinitely big. Primal Command is a really, really versatile card, even if it's a 5 mana spell, it's a great tutor if you've got tons of mana, it can remove annoying things, gain some life and even as noted recycle a graveyard, yours or someone else's. I use a Instill Energy as both an untapper (can be huge ramp) or as a haste source, at which point Bogbeast itself can swing to close.
It usually feels pretty good to have Once Upon a Time in an opener, it can burn you but rarely enough that it turns a lot of otherwise bad hands into solid keepers.
I'm also not sure about Steel Leaf Champion, I feel like you'd be better off with some Joraga Warcallers, these can protect your board from things like Plague Engineer, and are another potential payoff for infinite mana (though it won't give trample). I actually ended up running x2 Jagged-Scar Archers, which can be bigger than Champions while also hating on flyers like Murktide Regent, Delver of Secrets Flip, or Dragon's Rage Channeler.
I don't love Gelatinous Genesis in here because I don't see any way it can win the turn you cast it, so I'd cut them for something that can do so. I run Terastodon as a big clunky beater option, it can put out up to 18 power for 8 mana (costs me lands, but who cares in Elves?), or it can give my opponent some chumps if they have stuff I want removed (useful if they have exact mana and you expect a Wrath, this can make that Wrath uncastable in time for it to matter). If you use Genesis with 9 mana up, you make 4 4/4 bodies, I'm not sure that's as good as making a 9/9 and blowing up stuff (or just taking the obviously better 9/9 + 3 3/3s), but unless people in your meta do not use Wraths or Ensnaring Bridge type effects, it's worth taking a look at over Genesis. In the event you have infinite mana, you'd have been better off with an Ezuri, which can close that turn, or a Terastodon if you couldn't swing for some reason to clear the field/prevent a retaliatory wipe.
Interesting take on budget Elves! Hope some of my ideas are in your range
1 month ago
Thanks duderino! Glad you like it! The original idea stemmed from when a bunch of friends and I did our own version of a Kaldheim draft together, and I pulled all these elves that wiped the floor with everyone. Needless to say, it was a fun night lmao.
I was using Doom Blade as a form of removal but recently came across Infernal Grasp as a better form of removal. That Plague Engineer is nasty lmao, and DB definitely wouldn't be able to remove it, but with my recent upgrade to IG, I think I have a good chance to address it.
I love the ETB on The Meathook Massacre, but I hadn't considered it since I had so many GY retrievals, reanimation, and mass reanimation spells.
1 month ago
This looks disgusting. Might need some more protection against something like Plague Engineer. Nice list
2 months ago
Neat deck idea, I assume you're hoping to make the deck a bit stronger, so I took a look at the stuff you were concerned with.
You could try some Changelings maybe, there are some 1 drops like Universal Automaton and Changeling Outcast, which are all types and cost 1 mana for an otherwise useless creature. Maskwood Nexus is slower than all heck, but it's really strong in here I suspect.
If you want removal in White, Generous Gift will deal with most permanents, and giving them a 3/3 is usually good if you're stopping a combo/removing something huge. Swords to Plowshares and Path to Exile are very good removal if you are concerned with creatures in particular. Vanishing Verse is really interesting (but flubs vs multi-coloured stuff), Anguished Unmaking is really powerful but is pricey, while Vindicate is the king of sorcery speed solutions. If your meta has a lot of big creatures, Despark isn't a bad option, but it's dead vs low MV stuff, so probably not mainboard. Not quite 'removal', but Plague Engineer is a good 'sideboard' card vs any decks that use x/1 creatures, especially stuff like Elves. You could consider Dismember, you've got some life gain I guess?
To sneak out a Black 3 drop, you might run some Dark Ritual for big turn 1 plays. It can also sneak out a Maskwood Nexus. Culling the Weak also exists, and sacrificing a creature might not bother you here.
Hope some of this is helpful!
5 months ago
StoryArcher just to respond to the 4 bullet-points assigned to me, in order:
Yes your approach for Surgical Extraction hitting combo is a good one. However, the card also doubles as grave hate, and between having 4 of them, and a mainboard playset of Voidwalker, i think any more is excessive. So I guess i’d suggest to ditch the relics.
Bad Moon as an answer to bolt seems pretty futile. It could help versus Anger (and Fury), but i think there’s probably more pressing things to be playing in your sideboard. I’ve seen no other competitive devotion decks run Anger-hate, but ultimately it’s a meta call. I suspect Anger is played very seldom now that Fury exists - and Bad Moon isn’t as effective a choice versus that.
Whether or not to run Cry is again a meta call. I would say if your aim with it is to stomp on weenie-tribal decks, Plague Engineer is a stronger choice, as it will perform a stronger role, while also providing devotion. Cry is a much more situational option.
Yeah i’m absolutely suggesting splashing red for Blood Moon. It would mean running a single Blood Crypt and 4x Marsh Flats mainboard (i say Marsh Flats over the BR fetch, as this helps disguise your sideboard plan). The amount of games you’ll win against tough-matchups by dropping a cheeky Blood Moon will surprise you. However, the whole package isn’t cheap (shocks/fetches), so unless you already have most the needed cards, i’d suggest seeing how greedy your metas manabase is before committing to it.
For what it’s worth, if i were running this deck, my sideboard’d look something like this:
5 months ago
I disagree that IoK should be played over TS in the current meta that is rife with pitch elementals, Murktides, Primeval Titans, and Omnaths. However a 3/3 split could be ok if you find yourself short on life in most games. In place of the Sign in Bloods, I've seen people run a cantrip creature like Dusk Legion Zealot that can block a Ragavan while adding to your devotion count (although I do recognize that the secret mode of sign in blood that can burn your opponent in a pinch can be useful). I'd also cut the Cry of the Carnarium from the MD, adding the 22nd land. Running a few fetches to enable Fatal Push is fine, although I'm not sure you need more than 4 for just that reason. Also, have you run into any issues running Nighthawk Scavenger and Dauthi Voidwalkers together? The Scavenger wouldn't get very big if you played a Voidwalker the turn before. If you need to cut a 3-drop creature, that's where I'd start if you don't want to move the Voidwalkers to the SB.
The bigger issue with your deck is the SB though. With 4 MD Voidwalkers and a Tymaret, you definitely don't need as much grave hate as you currently have. I'd add at least 2 more removal spells that can hit larger creatures to the SB for the matchups that need them. Something that can hit Murktide Regent, Omnath, Locus of Creation, Fury, and Solitude, and that only costs 2 mana. I don't know if you play against much burn or control, but Collective Brutality is a good card against burn, low-to-the-ground aggro, and control decks. Tourach, Dread Cantor is also good right now against white decks like humans, UW control, decks playing Solitude, and in other grindy matchups where the discard is relevant. It also helps get more cards to steal if you have a Voidwalker in play. It doesn't add much to devotion, but it's still a good card in the meta that might work as a 2-of in your SB. Void Mirror is good if you play against Cascade, Tron, and the pitch elementals, and Plague Engineers would be good if you play against Humans, Merfolk, or any other tribal deck. Unearth would be good to bring in against removal-heavy decks, and allows you to aggressively use an early Gifted Aetherborn or Scavenger as a removal spell if needed.
*Also you may want to update in your description, as Sinkhole is not modern legal. It would be awesome if it was since Tron and Amulet can be tough matchups.
5 months ago
zapyourtumor You were right, i realized Demilich wasn't doing as much as i thought when it comes to saving mana from its 1st ability & recycling instants/sorceries from the 2nd, as i think Blink of an Eye is better in recycling them. Same case goes for Plague Engineer in the sence of its usefulness overall so took them away. Thing in the Ice Flip is a fantastic card & works well in my instant/sorcery heavy deck. I added it to main, would you recommend having a playset instead of 3? Liliana of the Veil is a pretty cool card & added it to sideboard, might even place it as main after some further paytesting. Thanks for your adivce!
wallisface You were right on my land count, I was commonly facing with landpool issues so i did make my land count higher to 24 and now i dont have that problem anymore. The meta in my city & surrounding areas are really monster-heavy so that was the reason I placed heavy hitting destroy spells such as Damnation but I saw your point, as it could be more of a disadvantage than anything. Took it off the main & added only 1 on sideboard. As for Mishra's Bauble i saw it wasn't doing as much as I anticipated, but then again im a noob at MTG still & i might have been using it wrong. Tbh i dont know why Lurrus of the Dream-Den was there i must have placed it by mistake so took it off lol. In general i switched the sideboard as much as the main in order to be more consistent. Twincast is there just for the lols & it has actually made pretty funny plays, i mean 2 is always better is it not?
In general i appreciate your advice both of you, and let me know what you think on the upgrade i just did. Im a returning player that took like a 10-year hiatus from MTG because life happened and im catching up, & this was a first try to a midrange-control-ish deck that i really want to work and make it as good as can be. Thanks!
6 months ago
For the SB, I'd cut wildfire and run Alpine Moon which is faster, Stone Rain's sagas, and stops tron. For grave hate I think just straight up Leyline of the Void would be better than spellbomb. You can always discard it if it's a dead draw. Chalice of the Void is more fast stuff to slow down rhinos and living end. Plague Engineer feels like something I'd cut for being too slow, same with Terminate. Not sure what terminate is there for (is it for murktide?) against murktide id just hope to drop my bigger fatties instead of trying to remove theirs. Maybe some Thoughtseize for disruption to take their grave hate and stuff. Leyline of Sanctity may be worth considering if your meta is burn/targeted discard heavy, plus it blanks some grave hate like spellbomb and tormods crypt and endurance.