Memory Sluice

Sorcery

Target player puts the top four cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.

Conspire (As you play this spell, you may tap two untapped creatures you control that share a color with it. When you do, copy it and you may choose a new target for the copy.)

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pauper	Legal
Pauper Duel Commander	Legal
Pauper EDH	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (51)

wallisface on U/B Mill

5 months ago

Mill decks only ever want to be running Hedron Crab and Ruin Crab as creatures. Any other options are just not helpful or conductive towards winning. Specifically:

• both Consuming Aberration and Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker cost such a high amount of mana that the game should already be over (mill decks should be aiming to win by turn 4). and both barely does any amount of actual milling for their egregious costs.

• Duskmantle Guildmage is only useful as a combo card with Mindcrank. On its own it's basically useless. If you are doing the Mindcrank combo then there's no real reason to run any other mill cards.

• Fog Bank does nothing and gives your opponent more time to overwhelm you or assemble their combo.

Other cards that i'd suggest are bad choices:

• Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver does very little for its cost. milling 3 cards for 3 mana is a very slow rate.

• Fraying Sanity is a massive trap card that a lot of casual mill players fall into. In almost all cases it doesn't speed up the clock for you beating your opponent.

• All of Mind Grind, Increasing Confusion, Mind Funeral, and Pilfered Plans just do faar too little for their mana cost. Memory Sluice is also a really bad return unless you can really reliably trigger it's Conspire ability.

I would suggest looking at cards like Fractured Sanity, Maddening Cacophony, and Tasha's Hideous Laughter *list*. Archive Trap is also a mill-must-have, but may be less-useful if your playgroup isn't using fetchlands. Jace, the Perfected Mind is also serviceable as a planeswalker.

Your deck also really needs some interaction - mill decks are typically too slow to out-race aggro and combo, so you need options to make sure you slow those decks down enough to win the race. Options normally include Drown in the Loch, Fatal Push, and Surgical Extraction

wallisface on Blue Mill 3.0

2 years ago

Some thoughts:

• for the same reason that Shock is terrible in burn decks, Tome Scour just isn’t viable in mill - it just doesn’t do enough for the card-cost. I would also add Memory Sluice, and Dream Twist, into this “doesn’t do enough” bucket. I’d suggest grabbing some copies of Fractured Sanity instead.

• Mill decks generally can’t go fast enough to race the quicker decks in modern. This is why its super important to run interaction. Most mill decks include black so that they can run cards like Fatal Push, Drown in the Loch, and Surgical Extraction.

• Your sideboard currently just reads like a bunch of cards that couldn’t fit in the main. You should be using those 15 slots to protect yourself from bad matchups, and dealing with problem cards.

• i’m not sure what Elixir of Immortality, Tormod's Crypt, and Memory Erosion are doing in this deck. None of them feel particularly useful.

niloc50 on Dimir Mill

4 years ago

Thank you too for your suggestions! You´re absolutely right. A mill deck should hit as hard as possible every single turn. I really love the synergy of Scheming Symmetry in a mill deck in general. It´s a great way to gain advantage over your opponent. The combo with Archive Trap pretty cool too.

I´ll probably keep the Fraying Sanity. Indeed it´s a turn without a lot of milling. But most of the time it´s absolute worth it, because you´re milling twice as much during your next turn and also the opponent will most likely mill himself too. If you need graveyard hate you can easily replace it with Leyline of the Void whilst sideboarding.

This List is also a reminder for myself of which cards belong physically to the deck. So I´ll need to have a look if I can offer a playset of different fetchlands or 2 to 3 Ensnaring Bridge. :D

Avatar of Woe, Consuming Aberration and Overwhelmed Apprentice are the first cards I´ll replace with some of your suggestions. Undead Alchemist and Memory Sluice are cards which I´ll replace too, but I would really recommend to try the combo of 1 or 2 Memory Sluice + Undead Alchemist it makes a lot of fun to get all the tokens if you´re playing against a creature based deck! :D

Pickachu202 on Dimir Mill

5 years ago

What do you think of recursive mill effects? Maybe some on creatures to help conspire Memory Sluice. Off the top I know: Drowner Initiate and Iceberg Cancrix.

channelfireball12345 on Erratic victory

5 years ago

Oh, and if you'd like to go really deep, what about Memory Sluice or Cathartic Adept?

Peisistratos on Competitive Modern Mill

5 years ago

NinkarPT It would probably fit in in a build with more creatures and Memory Sluice . It has no place anywhere else.

wallisface on Breathe Stretch Shake

5 years ago

I don’t see the current deck ever being able to mill the opponent, and i don’t think your current build should be trying to. In that vein, Memory Sluice and Ashiok, Dream Render seem pretty pointless

enpc on Grixis Phoenix? Deck help

5 years ago

There's also Memory Sluice which, while it hits one less card by itself, is both easier to cast and also lets you dig deeper if you want to late game turn your Bloodghast s into extra digging power (if you're having trouble getting them to connect). Just a thought.