Lier, Disciple of the Drowned

Legendary Creature — Human Wizard

• Paper
• Historic
• Alchemy

Spells can't be countered.

Each instant and sorcery card in your graveyard has flashback. The flashback cost is equal to that card's mana cost.

Spells can't be countered.

As long as it's your turn, each instant and sorcery card in your graveyard has flashback. The flashback cost is equal to that card's mana cost.

Spells can't be countered.

As long as it's your turn, each instant and sorcery card in your graveyard has flashback. The flashback cost is equal to that card's mana cost.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Freeform	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Historic Brawl	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pioneer	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (25)

TheoryCrafter on jelly fishe

3 months ago

Lier, Disciple of the Drowned gives all your instants and sorceries Flashback.

I would also recommend Creatures that have Unearth, creatures with this ability include, but are not limited to, Cityscape Leveler, Combat Courier and Terisian Mindbreaker.

Also, have you considered the Encroaching Mycosynth/Mirrodin Besieged Combo? Not only will this help you fill the graveyard with artifacts, but it will make every permanent in your graveyard an artifact, increasing your chances of winning.

I hope this helps. Thank you for reading me out. Happy Hunting!

Andramalech on Mage Factory

5 months ago

Consider cards like: Seasoned Pyromancer, Young Pyromancer, Faithless Looting, Faithless Salvaging, Past in Flames, Lier, Disciple of the Drowned, Dark Confidant, Ripples of Undeath, Goblin Lore, and maybe consider Sensei's Divining Top. CHeers!

SufferFromEDHD on The Mind-Razing Monarch

5 months ago

Baleful Mastery why not main board?

Burning Inquiry so much looting for so little

Cephalid Coliseum one person loots

Lier, Disciple of the Drowned > Yawgmoths Will (getting wild upon Andramalech request)

Dark Confidant looove this card in EDH but consider adding Sensei's Divining Top and/or Witch's Clinic to offset the serious life loss. Urza's Saga could grab it along with a playset of your other fancy jewels.

legendofa on "Unbeatable" card combo, or so …

5 months ago

Somewhere in the depths of my profile, I have a theoretical combo that's something like 20 cards that I specifically made to be as "you can't lose the game" as possible, and people still poked holes in it.

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If you want to beat the unbeatable, based on the description, I would go mainly {B}. There's not much that can survive a big -X/-X like Black Sun's Zenith or an unmorphing Bane of the Living. Leyline of the Void and Bojuka Bog are graveyard hate with different forms of uncounterability. Lier, Disciple of the Drowned shuts down counterspells, and stuff like Eyes of the Wisent punish blue spells (like most counterspells).

Praetor's Grasp and Sadistic Sacrament also punish combos with low redundancy, on top of Bitter Ordeal.

I'm not quite sure what the second clue could be. Assuming your interpretation is correct, there aren't that many cards that grant abilities from the graveyard, and most of them are offensive, not defensive. Arcane Lighthouse strips shroud and hexproof without being countered, and Sudden Spoiling strips inherent hexproof and shroud, if that comes up. Yixlid Jailer shuts down all graveyard tricks, on top of the graveyard hate above.

If you plan on making it 3v1, have two people run hard control while the third goes for combo breaking. Metaphorically, get two people to hold him down while the third goes through his pockets. Or just go triple aggro and attack before he can get set up.

VladMarkov on First

7 months ago

I reckon, what the deck really needs, is lots of cheap spells that can be cast on every player's turn, to get the most value out of the flurry mechanic. The game plan should be to cast Shiko and Narset, Unified on turn 4, prepare the board beforehand, and then spam small, damage-dealing spells that can easily be brought back with tricks like Underworld BreachGC, Lier, Disciple of the Drowned, or by recasting copies with Narset, Enlightened Exile. You could then replace draw-discard effects with more "pure" card draw options like Treasure Cruise (if you have a lot of cards in your graveyard), Quick Study or flexible draw like Flame of Anor. The main gameplay should revolve around cheap, repeatable spells, but there can also be some utility from the Magecraft mechanic. Most importantly, the deck should keep continuous pressure on opponents by dealing large amounts of damage through copying small spells.

Must have: Path to Exile, Cyclonic RiftGC

Useful: Cori Mountain Stalwart, Devoted Duelist, Monk of the Open Hand, Ashling, Flame Dancer, Jori En, Ruin Diver, Ledger Shredder, Smoldering Egg  ^Flip, Burst Lightning, Electrolyze, Virtue of Courage, Fire / Ice, Galvanic Blast, Heartflame Duelist, Ionize, Lightning Bolt, Lightning Helix, Lightning Strike, Magma Jet, Parch, Play with Fire, Punishing Fire, Risk Factor, Sacred Fire, Searing Spear, Shock, Skullcrack, Thunderbolt, Wild Slash

Possible: Taigam, Master Opportunist, Breeches, the Blastmaker, Gale, Waterdeep Prodigy, Rammas Echor, Ancient Shield, Storm of Saruman, Turn / Burn, Price of Progress, Finale of Promise, Increasing Vengeance, Frolicking Familiar, Molten Influence, Slaying Fire, Wizard's Lightning,

Andramalech on Uncouterable Reanimator

9 months ago

Found this deck happen-stance of the feed; Balaam__ is correct- and I confirmed this for him. It's unfortunate, but alternatively, you could consider reinforcing the prospect of your deck with Lier, Disciple of the Drowned.

legendofa on Blue tribe/typal commander deck

1 year ago

Merfolk and Wizards have some good options.

Svyelun of Sea and Sky comes to mind for Merfolk (if you can pronounce it), and Kopala, Warden of Waves and Emperor Mihail II are also good. Merfolk tend to be tempo-based with wide attacks; they can set up with lots of tokens and land control. A particular specialty is "flooding" lands into Islands to take advantage of islandwalk.

Wizards tend to want instants and sorceries, particularly card draw and counterspells. They have more of a control focus. Naban, Dean of Iteration, Naru Meha, Master Wizard, and Azami, Lady of Scrolls all interact with other Wizards, while Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir, Lier, Disciple of the Drowned, and Ertai, Wizard Adept focus more on the control angle (but are also somewhat higher budget).

UltimateRoxas40 on I am Become Nezahal, Destroyer of Worlds

2 years ago

Looks fun! I tried to build a similar blue deck with Lier, Disciple of the Drowned. I think he might be a good addition here, since you aren't running too many counterspells, and he can Flashback some of the cards you might have pitched to exile your commander for extra value.