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Enchantment Creature — Snake Lamia
When Gravebreaker Lamia enters the battlefield, search your library for a card, put it into your graveyard, then shuffle your library.
Spells you cast from your graveyard cost less to cast.
3 months ago
You'll like Sidisi, he is the best tutor in this deck for all the reasons DreadKhan said. Other good ones are Gravebreaker Lamia which is budget and recurable, Rune-Scarred Demon, which is recurable and a great beater, Buried Alive, and Woodland Bellower. Obviously, you just made major changes and won't want all of these right now, but tutors are great for eventually leveling things up down the road.
3 months ago
Thanks for commenting, Lord_of_Cardboard!
This deck would do exceptionally well against a Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger deck. This is for the same reason that cards like Jace's Archivist do so well in the deck: if you have have Muldrotha on the battlefield, any cards you discard might as well still be in your hand cause you can simply replay them from your graveyard. If anything, an opposing Kroxa player is almost helping you by disrupting your other opponents' hands.
As for a budget version of the deck, here's some advice on budget options and replacements. Just note that this is advice specific to my Muldrotha deck, i.e., advice for the big mana and big X-spell strategy. If you'd rather play a more typical creature-based, swing-to-kill type deck, there may be better Muldrotha lists to look at.
The mana base makes up a large portion of the deck's budget, and I would leave that mostly up to your own discretion. Just keep in mind that fetch lands like Evolving Wilds and slow fetches like Bad River are good for being replayed every turn with Muldrotha. Also, for a budget version of the deck, it's important to run more basics than I do since you'll probably need to fetch more with your ramp. Cycle lands like Lonely Sandbar, Tranquil Thicket, and Barren Moor are fantastic, especially with Life from the Loam. Some other good options:
Which brings me to another point: if I had to pick one somewhat expensive card that's worth putting in a budget Muldrotha deck, it's this one. It's a one-card value engine, giving you card draw, mill, and lands. And depending on what utility lands you choose to run, it can do a whole lot more. And if you're worried about Kroxa in your meta, Life from the Loam is a great counter to it, allowing you to fill your hand with lands to discard.
Now to address key cards for the deck's "big mana" strategy. Important cards for generating a lot of mana include Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, Cabal Coffers, Dryad of the Ilysian Grove, Crypt Ghast, and Nyxbloom Ancient. You could just replace these cards with normal ramp; casting X-spells for X=10 is still good and easy to accomplish without these cards. If that's unsatisfying for you, you could consider options like Zendikar Resurgent and Mana Reflection. Unfortunately there aren't many great cheap options for producing a lot of mana. This is an important part of the deck though, so it's up to you if it's worth spending some extra money on it.
To avoid this comment being any more lengthy than it already is, here's an extensive list of some budget alternatives for the deck. The great thing about Muldrotha is that being able to replay removal makes a lot of sub-par removal actually pretty good, so it's pretty budget friendly.
Win-Conditions: What's in the deck isn't too expensive, but here's some cheaper options.
- Mass Manipulation
- Gelatinous Genesis
- Mind Grind
- Hydra Broodmaster
- Other hydras (there's lots of them)
- Plaguecrafter / Demon's Disciple
- Seal of Doom / Shriekmaw / Executioner's Capsule
- Night Incarnate
- Outland Liberator Flip
- Thrashing Brontodon
- Kenrith's Transformation / Frogify / Kasmina's Transmutation
- Vraska the Unseen / Ob Nixilis Reignited
- Sidisi's Faithful
Draw / Mill:
- Vessel of Nascency
- Satyr Wayfinder
- Tatyova, Benthic Druid
- Mirror-Mad Phantasm
- Dreamborn Muse
- River Kelpie
- Witching Well
- Courier's Capsule
- Omen of the Sea
- Fact or Fiction
- Forgotten Creation
- Kiora, Master of the Depths
- Springbloom Druid
- Burnished Hart
- Dawntreader Elk
- Diligent Farmhand
- Kodama's Reach
- Wayfarer's Bauble
- Font of Fertility
- Omen of the Hunt
- Yavimaya Elder
- Kiora, the Crashing Wave
Control and other good stuff:
- Zur's Weirding
- Siren Stormtamer
- Drown in the Loch
- Elephant Grass
- Scribe of the Mindful
- Malakir Rebirth Flip
- Raven's Crime
- Malevolent Hermit Flip
- Energy Flux
- Other counterspells
If you have any other questions about budget options, let me know. I'm always happy to help!
4 months ago
Ok, with more context, there are more cards I can suggest. Lurrus of the Dream-Den and Omen of the Dead are a pretty cool value engine. Gravebreaker Lamia is a version of Oriq Loremage. As you're also including , Doomed Traveler is perfect. To draw cards, I heavily suggest Grim Haruspex and/or Smothering Abomination. With enough tribal synergy, Species Specialist could work, as well. Oh, and Elenda, the Dusk Rose is just nuts. Bushmeat Poacher is another underrated card to draw cards.
4 months ago
I'm really glad you liked the tone of the deck. That is exactly what I like to do with Commanders that people think of as boogie-men. I built an Atraxa deck in that same vein. Instead of building powerfully, I like to do something off-the-wall. I appreciate your comment!
4 months ago
First things first, I really like the tone of the deck description. This is a casually built deck that doesn't want to max out, it's just fun. Great thought. I built Sylvia Brightspear and Khorvath Brightflame with a similar attitude, and the deck is just a beauty.
Regarding this list, let me suggest some more underplayed, but fun cards for it:
Gravebreaker Lamia is a powerful tutor, a fine creature and even provides ramp. A card I really like in Lurrus of the Dream-Den is Omen of the Dead. It's cheap recursion and can even sacrifice itself. Desecrated Tomb is similar to Tormod, and the flying tokens can definitely add up pretty fast. Revival Experiment is another card could be really fun in here.
5 months ago
Last_Laugh: Sorry for the late response to the suggestion! Sac outlets like Altar of Dementia are good in almost any deck. For most creature-based Muldrotha decks, sac outlets are a godsend that allow you to sacrifice your creatures so you may replay them. For my deck though, I have fewer creatures than standard for Muldrotha decks, and of the creatures I do have, perhaps the only creature I would ever need or want to sacrifice with Altar of Dementia is Eternal Witness. All other creatures are designed to stick around or can sacrifice themselves. Altar has two applications outside of just sacrificing creatures: milling and protection against exile effects. In my experience, exile isn't so common that it warrants running Altar, and the mill effect can be hard to take advantage of (it requires Muldrotha to be on the field) and has better alternatives.
I like the combo you found with it though! I might add it to my "Potential Combos". For now at least though, I'm trying to avoid infinite combos in the deck; I personally have more fun without them.
As for Gravebreaker Lamia, I talked about it in one of my previous comments but I find it too limited for the five mana investment: not being able to replay it every turn makes me much rather run Sidisi, Undead Vizier. Also, I already have several tutors in the deck that I think are better in most circumstances. It's a great card in general though!
Amyas: Thanks for your suggestions! I love finding new cards that I didn't even realize existed and these two fit the bill. The only reason I might not run them though is that they seem too slow for what I'm going for. Jester's Cap simply doesn't do enough for 6 mana and is most useful against combo decks, but against those I would want something lower costed. Personally I find that Ashiok, Dream Render and Opposition Agent accomplish a similar task by just not allowing your opponents to tutor for powerful cards at all. They only cost 3 mana and hurt all of my opponents at once. Praetor's Grasp is also a good card with a similar effect. It only exiles one card and isn't replayable, but the flexibility in being able to tutor something for yourself as well makes it pretty good.
Jester's Mask seems a bit better, instant speed hand disruption is always nice, but the fact that it enters tapped is a deal breaker for me. Again, it's just too slow for my meta. It seems like a fun politics card though! If you like this card and also run sac outlets, you might also consider running Mindslicer. It hurts all of your opponents and you can still play your own cards with Muldrotha.
5 months ago
Hey Last_Laugh thanks for your suggestions, but as I have mentioned before, infinite comboing is not something that this deck wants to focus on.
That being said milling was something that I was considering and decided to add Mesmeric Orb for that.
I had Gravebreaker Lamia in the deck before, but it was cut because it just didn't work with the current deck direction. There is no tutor this win now card.
Sacrifice looks nice, but seing my overall creature cmc the payoff wouldn't be that great, I would wager Dark Ritual would most often be better, but even then I usually don't want to ramp Muldrotha out because I am not comboing with something. It was the reason I cut Lion's Eye Diamond a card that is an actual powerhouse in a Muldrotha deck.