I'll explain myself soon; for now...

  1. Update my Melek deck to include both Storm Cards, & cards that copy Instants/Sorceries.

  2. Do a Challenge regarding Creatureless Superfriends… (Note, Sliver Queen , & Mirror Gallery will be used, & One Walker per Type only.)

  3. Revise all my Descriptions for my decks...

  4. Start renovating my profile page...

  5. Project 16 Begins soon... (Spoiler: It's Partner 2016 related; & 4 colors...)

More to come.

cdkime says... #1

Just to clear the air as to why I asked, I have noticed you've made some recent posts where you have wanted to express some personal things about yourself. To me, that seems like you want to talk and share some of your experiences with people you do not know in the real world.

Perhaps I misjudged, but, if not, and you do feel like you need someone to anonomysly talk with, feel free to shoot me a message. We might not see eye-to-eye on a number of Magic-related issues (and probably have very different social and political views), but you'll note that I still try to take the time to read and respond to your posts, when I could just as easily ignore them.

Anyway, either way, I hope you are able to work through your personal problems. I, and I'm sure others on this site, are pulling for you.

May 2, 2019 11:25 a.m.

BMHKain says... #2

@cdkime: Ironically, yes. I do; though I merely do this for things you probably never even thought existed; though if I do fork up the 5 bucks for such a sensation that nobody enjoys doing (Nah, I'm only kidding. I was actually referring to the Honest Trailer for the first FNAF's game.), I'll see if I can do that in the foreseeable future. Since this is most likely for a personal matter (The two of us aren't really known for being able to see Eye-to-Eye, all the way since I first started this charade when the account was first made.). Never thought I'd find a third color of mine outside the usual Izzet League level of full risk insanity. I have quite some problems myself right now; I'm going to have to deal w/ each of them myself; something went wrong; & neither Houston, or even Cape Canaveral is capable of even saying this.

May 2, 2019 11:03 a.m.

cdkime says... #3

Do you have a Discord account? I have some questions, but you are not an upgraded user, so we cannot use the private chat feature on this site. If you do have a Discord, I would appreciate if you could post your username on my wall here; I'll then delete the post once I've added you.

May 2, 2019 9:33 a.m.

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@SP3CTR3_chelts: BUMPOMANIA!

(Some Unknown Idiot): Well he ain't Barney the Purple Dinosaur!

Yeah... I already have a way to do Extra Turns, but he requires your faith in flipping for Heads.

Though what I wanted to know is: what are better artifact targets for Daretti than Ugin's Nexus ? If that is not worth adding, what is? Also, I'm back to 32; back to 1-squared; what 2, or more walkers would you cut? Also, ironically, I'm working on a Mono- Burn deck, but that's another tale entirely...

Your thoughts on better Artifact Targets?

May 18, 2019 12:17 p.m.

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@exec-MTG: You see, that's where it gets weird. I was suggested actual wincons in these colors. Firstly, the Aurelia, the Warleader + Helm of the Host infinite attacks. Just equip this Helm to Aurelia #1 for an infinite amounts of combat phases; at least until you win. Second, the Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker combo. For my current Decklist (I still need 12 cut.), I dunno how this works. But this does have Helm of Obedience + Rest in Peace as the third & final Wincon. X = 1 for the Helm, & the opponent loses their library via Exile; since RIP replaces the "X goes to Graveyard" rule to make a replacement effect that bypasses all Graveyard related ideas, & exiles them in their stead. Problem? I can't seem to find a way to keep flickering Helm of Obedience by any means; much less be allowed to repay the value. I don't suppose you have any suggestions for this? & I chose Feather as the Filler CMDR card as it is potentially one of the better CMDRS. I'm just doing an Upgrade of Tier for the whole Color Identity. That's all I'm merely trying to do. But what would you suggest between what you said for CMDR: Archangel Avacyn  Flip, or Basandra, Battle Seraph ? I wasn't Keeping Feather in forever you know. ;)

May 16, 2019 5:44 p.m.

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@SP3CTR3_chelts: Update: Can't even find a similar effect to what Daretti #2 can do. Not sure if I should keep him n, or not. Already have a wincon of a certain kind confirmed here. Question now? Some would want to cut Daretti #2, but I believe he can do more than what others give credit; his Ult can target your (Or yor opponent's) graveyard as well. Maybe a dead target in the grave at some point might actually be useful here as well. But at this point, I can't think of any other Walker to cut... Ah well.

May 16, 2019 8:53 a.m.

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Huh. & to think I was resorting to a ruling that is now confirmed to be a lie.

As for Bolas & An attack that made Dominaria Physically annihilated (Crap. Broke my vow. X/), Okay, those two alone might not be enough; but we've enough spot removal here it's just fine anyway; bust whatever Creatures & Walkers prior to destroying a literal Universe, & then use Nicol Bolas' Ultimate; though I guess playing that Doubling Season before Bolas before a huge boom would make the best amount of sense. If what you said is true, that effect is most likely going to go through before death, &... well, I've no idea what Kenshiro of Hokuto no Ken used that struck a pressure point that if the target moves; they're literally going to explode. Not joking with you. That said, I wonder what else there is besides Daretti, Ingenious Iconoclast ; now Rowan is kept alongside Will, Saheeli is out... At this point; all I can do is wait unless there is a better option than just Daretti #2... No time for me to research though, & you must be quite busy, so maybe you can leave it to me to try & find whatever alts in such a case...? Thanks for the help BTW, SP3CTR3_chelts. You've kicked ass more than others, & I respect that. :)

May 15, 2019 1:20 p.m.

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I'll have to Emulate Judge Level Stoopid on this matter:

606.5. A loyalty ability with a negative loyalty cost can’t be activated unless the permanent has at least that many loyalty counters on it.

Previously, I read if that method is used to get an Emblem, & such a Walker is at 0 Loyalty; dead it goes. No Emblem Obtained. Has this since been changed, even with the Emblem restriction? Inquiring Minds wish to know...

I had a 4th idea for copying Artifice; though I dunno if I should even put Contagion Engine in there as a 4th option.

That said, I dun suppose I should keep Daretti, Ingenious Iconoclast & cut Saheeli, Sublime Artificer (I'll try not to make such crap nicknames for a logical period of time from here, but it won't be easy; I'm experimenting such things like its nothing; & is unhelpable.)

That said, I obviously won't put in Aminatou, the Fateshifter based on such ideas. Also, uh... 0-o||| Bee In your Bonnet? Ashiok, Dream Render is capable of ending Library Search for your opponents, & it's only Loyalty ability is at least, the better half of Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver 's Ult. How much Smallfry/Zako can change an opinion Left & Right alot? XD

All that set, I suppose I'll cut Saheeli from here. Actually, now I think about this; I think I've a new wincon in case I don't win w/ Najeela; Nicol Bolas, Dragon-God + Urza's Ruinous Blast . If your opinion about Abilities requiring an exact amount of Loyalty needed equal to the Walker in Question's ability (In this case; an ultimate.). Would the ability be used as if it were any Loyalty Ability; be it that either the full effect occurs before suicide (This also goes for Emblem ideas.)? I'm... unsure about this. I dunno about such an idea, SP3CTR3_chelts, but if this is truly allowed from even the idea of Comprehensible Rulings always up to date via set after set, I can tell you, Nicol Bolas at his most powerful & combined w/ Urza's Universe-Level Destruction (Maybe even higher since Dominaria is considered as the Primary Plane of Existence.), equals GG.

I'll be waiting for now BTW. Got some crap to watch...

May 15, 2019 12:08 p.m.

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Oh, & the above post is for you, SP3CTR3_chelts. Forgot to tag you BTW.

May 14, 2019 1:51 p.m.

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Well, there are several targets in mind:

* Sol Ring , Mana Vault , Fellwar Stone , basically mana rocks for ramp.

* Mimic Vat : Making multiple copies of this could easily Imprint the dead & put otherwise, problematic creatures on your side.

* Rings of Brighthearth : Just imagine how many copies of Loyalty Abilities I could make...

Those are the big examples. I'd like to mention Legendaries, but they can't be copied.

Just switched back to Najeela, the Blade-Blossom anyway. If Sliver Queen really sucks more than ever here; I ponder as to why...

As for Th 8 yr. old that F***s other's Fates , it just seems as if she can't do the ability on her own. Maybe an alt for Felidar Guardian could do. Also don't want to constantly rely on Oath of Teferi for more of such a thing.

As for Rowan Kenrith , Just using Doubling Season isn't even close to enough. You'd need at least one Loyalty Counter left over for her Emblem to even come in. Might as well throw in Proliferation while we're at this Charade.

As for the suggested cuts: Ashiok, Dream Render basically gives Opponents no Graveyard until death. (It.) also is a kind of Stranglehold for Walkers. It stays in for those reasons.

Daretti, Ingenious Iconoclast ? You're asking the same question for Saheeli, & the answers are the same here as you'd wish.

Elspeth #1 probably should be chopped as well, but to think, Elspeth is dead, Dack Fayden is dead after chasing Ashiok to Ravnica, Whatever.

Yeah, I have literally no 4 Power stuff in here. This Kiora Atua get's Garruk's Axe.

While I don't truly have an actual Playgroup per se, If they did have Sideboards, I'd be more than obliged to not needing one (Or even using one.). So your stratagem about Karn, the Great Creator is out. But what's your thoughts on Ugin, the Ineffable ? Exiling via Topdeck to create a Token that when it dies, brings the card to your hand; bypassing even the idea of drawing. Plus, he can just eliminate anything w/ a single color of mana that's not .

I hope this could help. It could even decide some other ideas from here. Now, I'm going to watch a tutorial on Acid Pro 8; because I've a Score to make; so watching how one can do this might be useful; especially since I got this from STEAM. No, really. It's the only music making program there no matter what that is the closest to being great. But I'll have to see more of this to be sure; but to think, so many who (I guess?) were in the StepMania community probably used this...

May 14, 2019 12:13 p.m.

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Alright. At least I kept Crawlspace for my tokens. That said:

You saying I should cut Saheeli, Sublime Artificer ? Just checking to be sure.

How long would I take for me to say: I changed my mind back to Sliver Queen .

Also, Aminatou, the Fateshifter & Felidar Guardian are both cut anyway. You no longer need to search for Flicker Effects of this sort...

Unless... You'd think Venser, the Sojourner + Teferi, Timebender is good as well. Unless you want me to put Ral Zarek back in?

Finally, one other Walker in mind is Tezzeret, Artifice Master , but I dunno about such a thing. That & Rowan Kenrith is hated by all as a part of these Superfriends/Avengers type decks. Really sucks when I'm the only one to find it to be good...

That said, good luck on your research, SP3CTR3_chelts! Hopefully this post can lessen the load as a whole. But what WAR Walkers I already have that needs to be cut? I'll get to this soon enough...

May 14, 2019 10:20 a.m.

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Hmph. Very well. The "Not Gruul-Colored God" is dead. Also decided to cut Freyalise again. Now, here's what I've been thinking all this time. If we're referring to the last (Or the first of three last cuts.); I've ben thinking long & hard as crap, & here are the Walkers that I put on Garruk's Chopped by a giant Axe Cut:

Ral Zarek : This one's tough. After cutting Nahiri, the Harbinger (Even her 2nd Loyalty Ability is way better than Vraska, Relic Seeker in which her targets are exiled. Though Mana Ramp from Vraska kept her here in her stead.), having a way to tap & untap all in one ability, but having a Lightning Bolt esque ability is to underwhelming; especially against Her as she stops all non-combat Damage; now how can Mono- Burn decks have any use w/ her around at all? Then there is his ultimate; the only way he can assure you one Extra Turn at least. But you can't call the flip; instead, you'd have to pray your ass it lands on heads at least once. Chaos, & Superfriends are not good here at all. Why WotC didn't make a Mono- Legendary Planeswalker yet that can assess all problems w/ the truly random chances Chaos Decks have (Especialy if it's Mono-; the color w/ the most amount of CHAOS based Cards.)?

Thus why Ral #1 starts off the list of cuts.

… & is also the last. Aminatou, the Fateshifter was initially a big part of the deck, but after a child got chopped, so too did Felidar Guardian . So many good cards got chopped, & they actually had use; not sarcastic. That said, as some of the other Walkers' effects require tapping them either by Ral Zarek , or even Tamiyo, the Moon Sage , hell would occur when such things that require them to be tapped to strike at them; & such cards are no longer in the deck list, Meaningless Burn, & a Chaos Effect that's much riskier than even Mana Crypt , these three reasons (Backed up by the fact one reason each represents a Loyalty Ability.) is why I'd cut Ral, the Self-Electrodominated Baka Yarou that can't burn anyone anymore . I've yet to go any further to find two more cuts. But I'd like your opinion on this, PhotogenicParasympathetic. I don't think I can make beyond 30, so... Any thoughts?

May 13, 2019 11:31 a.m.

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@PhotogenicParasympathetic: Bumping Tag 3? Fine... I'm now trying to cut 3 Walkers for 30, or 5 for 28. Since you probably already oppose Xenagos, what would you cut 3 or 5 Walkers for? Apologies for tritagging, & my previous posts as well...

May 12, 2019 2:48 p.m.

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@PhotogenicParasympathetic: Decided to add Freyalise again. Might even add A dead cluster of Stars back in as evidence that even the best walkers don't need to use their Ults to be awesome; unless you're Dack, then you're Wacko from Animaniacs; & seriously Wacko in real life for disagreeing. XP (Note: Dack Fayden's Still dead.) FuuFuu...~ I'm only kidding with ya. Don't be too rash. Ah dammit; I just went from Animaniacs to Kagami Hiiragi of Lucky Star; & I like Nichijou more than that infinitely more. Damn, though. It's been 9 years since the latter first started an Anime in Japan/Nippon. & no Followup series either; Where's Nichijou Zero? You'd might as well say Clannad as a whole is old school now.

(I'll shut up about Kyoto Animation Anime from here.)

So what are the best Pre-WAR Walkers w/o any true need of an Ultimate as that ability isn't needed for success? I think you might want to look this up if you wish. Though doing so will reduce my chances of getting to the minimum target of 30 Walkers, or 28 Walkers at best. I'd like to talk about Galaxy Angel, but damn, as Tact really had quite the feelings for Karasuma Chitose-san, & such a connection distanced so far, it's made worse as a War is going on. I had a list of Top 10 Anime Girlfriends, & Based on backstory, & being a relateable heroine as well, I'm stunned she didn't make my list. Maybe I'll make her an honorable mention on a high level.

Getting out of Galaxy Angel, I'd like you to find some really good Pre-WAR Walkers that don't need to use their Ultimate while their other abilities are awesome as well. I'd really like you to do this, but this is also optional if you wish. Until you find some good examples, Xenagos, Killer of the true Red/Green Theros God will be in until further notice.

Sorry for derailing this post. & Tagging you twice again. & offending you; I didn't even mean to do that.

May 11, 2019 8:57 p.m.

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BUMPING A BIG FAT B------.

So, if I put back Freyalise, what 2, or 4 walkers do you think should be cut down to the recommended 30, or 28?

May 11, 2019 12:05 p.m.

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@PhotogenicParasympathetic: Hmmm. All right. Angrath has no purpose in Superfriends now. & Didn't even think Xenagos, the R & G Flood that never will (& is dead.) is that weak; His +1 shows lots of Mana Ramp in any combo of &/or Mana. If we have Tokens in question; maybe several of the creatures of this deck, it's close, but no cigar; but at least you're not limited to just . Ol', Dead Xenagos is just one of those walkers that's awesome, but the Ult. is entirely optional; not needed anyway in this case. Irony? Some of the Better Pre-WAR walkers don't even need to use their Ult. Why I removed Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury , I've no idea.

But, sure. A dead God, is better than a Dead Walker (Irony? Xenagos is/was both at differing times.), though I guess some can't win as much as others. Though Dack Fayden is really garbage here, not even enough nonperms that target permanents; if, none at all. This Badass died via having his spark harvested by an Eternal while Ashiok is still at large? 2 Species-less, 2 Genderless, 2 Planeless, 2 DNAless, 2 Anythingless, 2 Fragged-Up Furious. Why...

That mentality crisis out, I'm down to 31 Walkers. Either 1 exterminate 1 good one, or 3. Though someone recommended 20, which is self-nightterror inducing to cut that many walkers, & I'm thinking of putting back Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury ; bringing me back to XXXII. I'm already trying to do something else as well; two+ things; a Vorthos Deck based on a Visual Novel, & a new-Age CHAOS deck running Yidris, Killer of the 4 Color MTG Block Impossibility. . Also updating several other decks left unmentioned.

For now, I'm IE (Upside Down 31.), but what 1, or 3 Walkers to cut? Not going to cut the Evolution Sage Engine; Cycle Duals, BFZ Duals/Shocks, among other things that do Proliferation as I play lands from the dead via Crucible of Worlds . But I've one last thing to ask: Besides Garruk Wildspeaker & his +1, What Walker centered on Lands would be best here? & no, it shouldn't be just Forest s, much less Basics; but all Lands of this deck. Because I can't find one, AT ALL. So, should I keep Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury & go from 1 or 3 Walkers to Garruk Chop to 2 or 4? Also, I apologize for the weird, & truly inane sayings for names. That, & I say this to all Elf Life: To all Elves in MTG; Don't fear progress even in Green Mana, Protect ideas of all; & not kill it. & NOT KILL ANY & EVERY IMPURITY FOR GAEA. We have Romili Reloaded of EoJ, but no RoboElves. & no, AEther Sense count's not. Sorry. DX

(EoJ equals Eye of Judgment.)

May 10, 2019 9:43 p.m.

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@PhotogenicParasympathetic: (Sorry for tagging you twice now...)

I'm now at 33 Walkers until I reach either 30, or 28. I can't find anymore ideas for cuts. At least three are good, but two more, that would be awesome. Though this amount may decrease yet again; Liliana Vess as a Repeatable Tutor. But is Xenagos, the Reveler , Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury , & The Wanderer worth keeping alongside the former 2? I'd really like your thoughts on this; & the four cards mentioned at the end of the previous post. Thoughts?

May 10, 2019 8:54 a.m.

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@PhotogenicParasympathetic: Got rid of the Yanggu Alarm Combo. I'm still getting to 30 at most; or even 28 at max.

Might actually remove Ol'Skuul Ob from this. Already removed The Wanderer , & might also focus on a Creature token Subtheme. You might say Xenagos, the Reveler is gargahge, but making mana w/ a relatively large number of tokens potentially makes his +1 at least Growing Rites of Itlimoc  Flip (Calling his ability very similar or even almost as good as Gaea's Cradle is actually Highballing it.) level mana flood. He can even give you a 2/2 Satyr w/o any increase (or Decrease) of loyalty. Alot better than many here refer him of so. Alright, might as well remove the Transfigurationess herself. That said, from there, I'm running out of ideas for cuts, & having to make sure Creature Tokens matter as much as the Walkers pumping them out is crazy; but since removing what could make them truly godlike as mana ramp, what to do about this...? Finally, was removing Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury & The Wanderer both mistakes? I'll be waiting...

Also, is any of the following truly good here as well?: Stasis , Winter Orb , Static Orb , & Meekstone ? It was initially implied that Crawlspace seems decent here. What about these blokes?

May 9, 2019 12:42 p.m.

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@PhotogenicParasympathetic: Peter Capaldi as the Nth Doctor (Remember, Heaven Sent; basically had The Doctor regenerate Hundreds of Billions of times while counting as one.): I'll start with the obvious.

It's ironic you'd recommend Ajani, the Greathearted over Ajani Unyielding for the top ten. MSully_17 actually suggested using Intruder Alarm for a loop between Sliver Queen & Jiang Yanggu, Wildcrafter ; tap 2 +1/+1 Counter Creature tokens, make a Sliver Token, all creatures untap. Something that Superfriends would even have as the equivalent of 1,000,000's of 1/1 Squirrels. Most likely; I'll change the CMDR back to Sliver Queen for this notion.

But back to the other notions:

What's your thoughts on Kasmina, Enigmatic Mentor ? She Taxes opponents, makes you Tokens, & even Loots after token creation.

What about Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath ? After whatever kind of combo to note that I just mentioned, is he any better than Sorin Markov NUMERO I ? His emblem might even be really useful in a plethora of situations...

Ugin, the Ineffable ?: Yeah, I've no Colorless worth chopping the price by . At least making a 2/2 via Topdeck Exile still prevents your enemies from ever knowing what it is, until you have your hand with it in it. But maybe you might be right about this not worth adding into this...

Will Kenrith : Stunned you have no say on this; Will can do actual Transfiguraion; something not even Kasmina, who should be able to do this, has no proof of this. He can even pay for your Walkers, Instants & Sorceries. You can even choose yourself to allow yourself to copy instants, & Sorceries as an Emblem. But I've a bigger interest on one of these thoughts:

The Hated Walkers that Help with so DAMN MUCH. : So many people have hated all 3 of these walkers, & don't care about the idea if infinite activations of Loyalty Abilities on the fly w/ any of these 3. Rowan, for starters, forces target player to attack w/ everything they got. This is a problem in the past, but has since been improved because of a Walker you stated I should cut: Angrath, Captain of Chaos ; & even adding Crawlspace means attacking me w/ 2 creatures just simply gets better when you realize you can block both w/ one each; negating the attack from there. Did I also mention this Angrath would love to play some Jund w/ Doubling Season as well? Amass 2 will create a 0/0 Zombie Army token w/ 2 +1/+1 Counters. Add ol' Doubler, & it is a 4/4 instead. See? I told you this has use. Plus, Rowan's Emblem is actually worth using in a pinch. Now for Daretti, Ingenious Iconoclast . He makes 0/1 Construct Tokens w/ Defender; & they can be used as fodder when destroying opposing Artifacts & Creatures; The Construct is actually an Artifact Creature Token you know. Even making 3 Copies of whatever Artifice you need is pretty good; especially since you can also do this in your yard; not just your field. Lastly, Saheeli, Sublime Artificer ; just casting noncreatures as a whole gives you 1/1 Servos. If you can use them to make copies of already existing Aftifacts, this is reason enough to keep all 3. But what's so wrong about Sundial of the Infinite ? It actually helps more for the walkers than so many other things; namely: "Until end of turn", & "This Turn" effects. Those copies are going to stay even if they are forced out of the game in the first place.

Ashiok, Dream Render : Players are definitely going to need to tutor, or just straight up search for anything, which is basically nullified by Superfriends' own Stranglehold . Also, Destroying Enemy Graveyards can actually be extremely useful against those who can use the yard to their advantage. Just imagine a Reanimator deck user's response when he has to use it that much.

I'd like to talk about Dovin, Grand Arbiter , & Serra the Benevolent , But I think I said too much. I just want your opinion on these. Although I'd like your thoughts on...

Dovin, Hand of Control : Taxing Artifacts, Instants & Sorceries by seems good, but do you think Kiora Atua does this better?

That said, again, I'd like some thoughts on all this. Thank you for your time. :)

May 8, 2019 11:18 a.m.

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For this one, I want to drop my amount of walkers to 30 (Because 25 seems too hard for me.)

I also want to see if I can find a combo for Sliver Queen & Jiang Yanggu, Wildcrafter for infinite mana/tokens/jank. I would go for Mana Echoes , but that's just being too easy.

Since everyone here apparently hates Daretti, Ingenious Iconoclast , & even Rowan Kenrith (with even Saheeli, Sublime Artificer on the same chopping block that killed the former 2.), I actually had a backup plan in the form of Angrath, Captain of Chaos + Crawlspace to keep such creature tokens alive; just block w/ 2 of them, and...

BOING!

So far, such good cards that were cut are Garruk Wildspeaker (Apparently, someone thought Untapping 2 Lands is meaningless. DX), Will Kenrith (I was running out of ideas from the start. He probably deserves the re-add.), Kasmina, Enigmatic Mentor (Taxes those that target your Walkers? Makes Tokens? Loots? Why did I get rid of her?!), Liliana Vess (Uh, Ashiok, Dream Render exterminates all enemy Graves? Angrath, the Flame-Chained makes your opponents' discard & lose life? Do you think I can even make this Liliana a repeatable "Demonic Tutor"? If so...)

Another thing to note, I still need other ways to repeat walker casting via Blinking/Flickering, or something else entirely. I still have no ideas from others. Maybe you can help this time?

JSYK, I already have a cut in mind if I can't find an infinite for Sliver Queen + Jiang Yanggu, Wildcrafter , & a possible third part of this combo. If this can't work for infinite mana; & from there, infinite Sliver Tokens, Yanggu gets Garruk's Axe.

Now, what to get to 30 Walkers? From there, I should be able to find good enough cuts outside of this...

Thanks for the help; if any... :)

May 7, 2019 10:59 a.m.

@Mortiferus_Rosa: Obviously, the above post is targeted to you. I'm trying to cut all I can; but what's next?: Saheeli, Sublime Artificer , Daretti, Ingenious Iconoclast , & Rowan, Hated by All ? Since I added Angrath, Captain of Chaos + Crawlspace , my tokens actually will be harder to kill because of this Angrath. At this point, 25 is all I can reach. Tamiyo, the Moon Sage 's Ult actually would help w/ Tamiyo, Collector of Tales , Nahiri, the Harbinger doesn't even need her Ult. to be good; eg Rummaging, & Exiling Spot Removal. Just Garruk Wildspeaker 's +1 (Notice the "+" as it actually increases loyalty.) allows Mana Advantage via Untapping Lands; or do you think Kiora, Behemoth Beckoner can do any better all at once? I just need more Repeatable ability uses; either Flicker based, or something else entirely; but I can't think of anything else...

Also, assuming I switch back to Sliver Queen , besides Mana Echoes (Doesn't even work in Superfriends.), how'd you infinite her Sliver Tokens for mana via Jiang Yanggu, Wildcrafter ?

Oddly enough, Karn, Creator of Argentum, (re)Named to Mirrodin by Memnarch & what's left of his memory via Memnites, (re-re)Named to New Phyrexia by 5 dumbass Praetors that need to end their hatred, even using 3, 4, & 5 Colors as allies. > Stony Silence ; & here's why. Karn #3 (Not counting Karn, Silver Golem .) can just use his +1, & you don't have to change your Artifacts to anything else. Effectively giving you a free 1 Loyalty Counter increase. (Deadliest Weapon? Grammar? something Zexion/Ienzo might use? Kei "Chaos" Asuma's Photomancy (Light Manipulation) Tome that can summon a Lizard-like creature of the same Void Base as the others of Under Night IN-BIRTH? NVM...)

Actually, now I think about it, Serra the Benevolent would be a Badass Oldwalker just having even one creature token in play; implying Sliver Queen again. I might need a good way for a "Jank" Infinite mana Combo with Yanggu #2; or does he deserve the chop?

All that said, I'll have to take matters to my own way for now. This'll be hard as hell for me to see what I can remove for walkers alone... Oh, & I used some nicknames as jokes. XP

May 6, 2019 7:10 p.m.

Conjecture: Some walkers are awesome even w/o Ults. Nahiri, the Harbinger has Rummaging, & can exile stuff on the spot. Why Stony Silence ? That would actually encourage me to keep Garruk Wildspeaker in; besides, his first ability has lots of mana advantage. Tamiyo, Collector of Tales is pretty much Sigarda, Host of Herons in a Walker, but sure. I'll ditch the (Pay tribute to a dead walker) idea at least. I guess there are no good Gideons at all... Also, saying "No" to the new Saheeli is insane. Since you stated this deck doesn't have enough creatures, she is only made better as of this. But why Stony Silence over Karn, the Great Creator of Argentum? His First non-static ability allows you to target UP TO 1 Artifact to become a creature. You could get that loyalty for FREE if you wanted. All w/o needing to change anything. Sorry, but I dunno why Stony Silence over him.

Based on what you are assuming, though... these next cards would be what should be cut next:

Jiang Yanggu, Wildcrafter : He's only in there for my CMDR; which relies on infinite Combat phases, & Jiang only needs 5 mana to make this work. If I switched to Sliver Queen again, he's at least cut worthy, unless, I find an infinite loop for creation of her kin, & Yanggu #2's Static Ability. So he's not exactly out just yet.

Kaya, Bane of the Dead (& Kaya, Ghost Assassin too?): Just because something like her as a 6-drop should be cut is odd. This Kaya basically forces your opponents to use Shroud instead; & that's the only flaw I had w/ her. Even now though, Shroud is obsolete; in a game where Hexproof is superior, & no cards ever talk about Shroud ever again, a big drop like her, probably is for the best to keep. But Kaya #1? I already have way have ways enough to permit cutting her. That said, I still need more ways to use Flicker cards & effects in this deck. Venser, the Sojourner is affably bad here, & I still need alternatives besides Aminatou, the Fateshifter + Felidar Guardian … For now though, Kaya #1 will be cut.

Kiora, Behemoth Beckoner : It's not like I'll have a 4/4 being ready to be cast at any point. She does, however, untap target permanent. How should I use this feeble effect? Remember, I still have Saheeli, Sublime Artificer , & Daretti, Ingenious Iconoclast (Shocked you stated to keep this one.); I have so many infinite combos here that I'd rather cut The Chain Veil because of this. How do I make them work?

Ugin, the Ineffable : Uh... Karn Liberated has a better Spot removal ability? Sure, putting a cheap cost of your colorless stuff is fun, but I'd rather use Ugin #1 over this.

I dunno about your opinion on all these, but that's what I got for now. I'll see if I can find anything else worth chopping...

May 6, 2019 1:38 p.m.

BUMP! BUMP! B-(Ran over by a Bullet Train in Nippon.)

You probably are wondering what I want for this... Well, eat this:

I still need some alts for Aminatou, the Fateshifter + Felidar Guardian in the situation I don't have enough Blink/Flicker in play. Do you think Ashiok, Dream Render sucks as well? I can think of two Gideon's better than Gideon, Champion of Justice : Gideon of the Trials , & Gideon Blackblade . Do you think either is good; & if so, what would you recommend over Champion of Justice? I'd like to keep Crucible of Worlds for my Landbase (Cycle Duals, & Tap Fetches.); your opinion? Everyone hates Rowan Kenrith , & Daretti, Ingenious Iconoclast for their huge drawbacks. Should I keep Saheeli, Sublime Artificer for the fact she can do the former 2's ideas, but better? I have Sundial of the Infinite for EOT effects. Should this be cut as well? What other Walkers/Wraths to Add/Cut? What's better between Chromatic Lantern , & Prismatic Omen ? & is Jiang Yanggu, Wildcrafter good here? We also have Ajani, the Greathearted here to back him up. Flux Channeler , Evolution Sage , & Ignite the Beacon / Call the Gatewatch are all awesome here; but what are your thoughts? Also, maybe your help could be good here again, DrkNinja? I'm in one hell of a bind...

May 4, 2019 4:38 p.m.

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