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(2)(Black), Discard a card: Target opponent loses 1 life and you gain 1 life.
Hellbent - (1), Pay 2 life: Draw a card. Play this ability only if you have no cards in hand.
Nihilistic Glee Discussion
2 months ago
Well this is tricky, I think DrukenReaps is on the right track though. So building on that we can establish we want RG for sure for Mina, Wayward Swordtooth , maybe Crucible of Worlds and Ramunap Excavator if you include a discard theme. I know, I know... "but discard is black?" you say. And so are a plethora of tutors so you can find your Experiment and employ it.
So we're on a "lands matter" track, should it also be top deck matters? That's mostly blue but there are alot of artifacts that fill the spot to scry, surveil, or otherwise rearrange the top cards like Scroll Rack and Sensei's Divining Top . So lands matter, Jund, so... Lord Windgrace maybe?
Well, I got nothing else atm, so hopefully this helps.
8 months ago
julls I do think Desecrated Tomb could work in your deck definitely could open up some interesting combos. Sac two tokens get a huge creature from your graveyard crate another token isn't bad. problem is you kind of need to have that engine running for it to get value. Its at least worth play testing to see if you get enough value out of it throughout a normal game.
Yeah dredge can be rough when you need the draw but you could look into other forms of card draw like: Greed, Underworld Connections, Arguel's Blood Fast, Erebos, God of the Dead, Mind's Eye but it can hurt not having one of these cards for the draw. But don't sleep on dredge its very good with graveyard decks.
Memory Jar would also be sick in this deck discards a shit ton of cards and you can make sure to hold it until you have means to use those discarded cards. Can also really screw with other players game plans.
Some random other suggestions that you might find interest in: Undead Gladiator, Asylum Visitor, Chains of Mephistopheles, Dark Deal, Nihilistic Glee, Necromancer's Stockpile, Bazaar of Baghdad, Sea Gate Wreckage, Black Market, Trading Post
9 months ago
Thanks dbpunk for the great suggestions! I switched Nihilistic Glee in and cut Mastermind's Acquisition out for now. I don't see any use for Body Snatcher for this deck since I don't play high-CMC-creatures and the card itself brings nothing to the table. But maybe I'm missing some aspect of the card. Brink of Madness is an awesome card for 1vs1-games but since I'm playing 3+ opponents I'm not going to include it. I put it to the Maybeboard though. Demonic Collusion looks like a decent card but the high CMC is quite a letdown since mostly you need to wait for another turn to get the use of it meaning you are going to miss on the hellbent-effects. Furthermore cards like Avaricious Dragon reduce its worth. Malfegor looks decent but not quite good enough since at the time you can afford it your hard will contain maybe 1-2 cards left. Sire Of Insanity needs a spot in this deck but I don't quite know what to cut out for it. Anyway thanks a lot for the great ideas!
9 months ago
Have you considered:
1 year ago
Forestxavier20 Hey, I'm glad you like the deck. I don't really like dark ritual in decks that don't try to combo out and absolutely need to utilize that fast mana if that makes sense.
Dependent on your meta though, you can swap some cards with more hand disruption / discarding with cards like Delirium Skeins or recursion with a Phyrexian Reclamation both of which are in my sideboard.
1 year ago
Not on playing Nihilistic Glee, if I am right, you can resolve the hellbent multiple times with no cards in hand then have each trigger resolve so you can draw a card for each colorless spent. Pretty powerful...
1 year ago
I think you're right on Ever After, and Pestilence, and Magnetic Theft. I think there is a value in being able to make people discard from the hand, I think I'll take out Unnerve and Tasigur's Cruelty, and put in Swiftfoot Boots to fill that role but better. I think Megrim is worth keeping in, because doubling up on that effect is really good, and it really surprised me how much impact its had so far. I think Memory Jar is too expensive for what it would do in this deck.
1 year ago
Sub out Ever After for Oversold Cemetery. I would also take out Unnerve and Tasigur's Cruelty. You are going to get a lot of discard off of the wheel effects and the two other discards. The fact that they are random makes them a lot better. Also cut Magnetic Theft, not the best for what you want to do, you have a lot better options out there. Finally Megrim should get out. It is a bit too costly for another copy of Liliana's Caress and you have so many other discard with upside cards. That makes room for Jagged Poppet, Curse of the Cabal, Blade of Selves, and Nihilistic Glee. I like Jagged Poppet a lot, if you think Plague of Vermin is better that would be the one I would sub. If you want to include both I don't like Pestilence but that's an argument that we had already...
Might want to think about Memory Jar although it is a little bit pricey... Also a bit situational
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