Twenty-Toed Toad

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Legality

Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Arena Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Historic Brawl Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Vintage Legal

Twenty-Toed Toad

Creature — Frog Wizard

Your maximum hand size is twenty.

Whenever you attack with two or more creatures, put a +1/+1 counter on this and draw a card.

Whenever this attacks, you win the game if there are twenty or more counters on this creature or you have twenty or more cards in hand.

x0100011010x on All players win?

2 weeks ago

I think that trying to get to a draw through Divine Intervention (clearly how the card is intended to work) is not nearly as interesting as actually trying to make every player win (which would require obviously doing something unintended)

Za above figured out a way to make every player lose the game, which is very related but different imo.

I am sure that "legally" there is some resolution order to this combo I describe below. However, I think it is much more interesting and would be much more surprised than someone just playing Divine Intervention

Most "you win" card (in this article https://draftsim.com/you-win-the-game-mtg/ ) triggers on upkeep or end step, so you couldn't share that victory.

Halo Fountain, Helix Pinnacle, and Maze's Endfoil all let a player win through an ability. But abilities go on the stack and I am not aware (I also didn't even look it up though) of anything that lets you copy abilities for other players.

Curse of Echoes on yourself, then Coalition Victory or Thassa's Oracle would work. Approach of the Second Sun has an annoying clause which prevents copies of it from working for other players. Unfortunately, Coalition Victory would require you giving the other player control of 3-4 creatures and 3-4 lands, so is infeasible. Thassa's Oracle might work if you get their deck down to zero cards (a way is described below), or a few if they have blue.

Twenty-Toed Toad notably lets you win in your attack step. I'm unsure how you would have multiple players attacking in one step. However, I was reviewing all the cards in the link above, and if you cast Ramses, Assassin Lord; enchant Twenty-Toed Toad to be an Assassin; have your opponent gain control of Twenty-Toed Toad (like with Custody Battle and then destroying it, give them 20 +1/+1 counters, and your opponent attacks you: They would win, so you would lose, and you had previously controlled the Assassin Toad, who attacked you this turn, so Ramses makes you win.

Giving everyone Jace, Wielder of Mysteries; or Laboratory Maniac, or copies of them; then casting Leveler and giving copies of them; and then casting something like Burning Inquiry should also work I think. You could have two of Jace/Maniac and cast two Fractured Identity to get that to happen. This route allows even more than 2 players to win.

I mean, if you declare that your objective is to make the game end in a draw... and you do that... then you won, right? Sorta?

If I pulled off either above combo, I would not feel sorta? good, I would feel like I just shattered a fundamental assumption all planeswalkers have made since before the Eldrazi were found, and rejoice

TheoryCrafter on Help me to build my …

4 months ago

Okay, I am back thank you for your patience. I don't know if you're just looking for advice or if you want a whole deck list, so I'll meet you somewhere in between.

So I use the manabox app for card listings. Turns out I miscounted and there are 35. If you put all but Twisted Riddlekeeper(potential color identity issues) in there you have a good start.

Perhaps the strongest cards in addition to Fear of Sleep Paralysis are Mjolnir, Storm Hammer, Monstrosity of the Lake and Scroll of Isildur; though even cards like Kitnap, Lost in the Maze and Sleep-Cursed Faerie can be a boon due to Tekuthal's activated ability and not be affected by Fear of Sleep Paralysis.

One card I recommend you add is Maskwood Nexus. Both Protocol Knight and The Watcher in the Water require creature types to be effective.

Speaking of Watcher in the Water, you'll need instant speed card draw. You're gonna need card draw regardless, but WitW will need feeding to be effective. This includes, but isn't limited to Archmage's Charm, Bane's Contingency, Jace's Archivist, Opt and Triskaidekaphile.

Triskaidekaphile is an Alternate Win Card as well, which you should have in your deck as a means of winning if you can't win by beating up your opponents. Other Alternate Win cards that would also fit the best in this deck are Central Elevator / Promising Stairs(To fully take advantage of the Eerie ability on Fear of Sleep Paralysis), Darksteel Reactor and Twenty-Toed Toad(which doesn't specify what counters apply to the win condition).

The latter two are fed well by your commander's static ability. Proliferate cards you can use include, but are not limited to, Contagion Engine, Contentious Plan and Inexorable Tide.

However, if you have a Commander like Tekuthal, it would not be wise to NOT take advantage of the proliferate ability. Crystalline Giant can give your creatures counters other than +1/+1, especially if you use Goldberry, River-Daughter to move hexproof counters onto your most important pieces. Power Conduit is another card that can strengthen your creatures. And you certainly can't go wrong with The Ozolith of you can afford it.

Ramp, like card draw, should be in every deck. Sol Ring is practically a necessity. Astral Cornucopia and Everflowing Chalice become mana fountains of their own once the charge counters are on and proliferating. Though cards like Arcane Melee, Defiler of Dreams and Urza's Incubator(which gets support from Maskwood Nexus) are just as useful.

And finally there's lands that can help with counters(like Nesting Grounds and Blast Zone), reusing spells(Like Mystic Sanctuary), redundancy(such as Reliquary Tower) and can offer elements of control not available to blue(such as Scavenger Grounds. Try this keep at least half lands as Basic Islands. That way, if you get hit with cards like Alpine Moon or Blood Moon it's not an immediate capitation.

Well, that it for my part. I hope this is a help, if nothing else than for inspiration. Thank you for reading me out. Happy Hunting!

DemonDragonJ on Alternate Win and Loss Conditions

7 months ago

With the release of Bloomburrow, I have added Twenty-Toed Toad to this list.

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