peachious on Alela, Enchantress of the Fae
3 weeks ago
Nice deck! Are you looking to update it with any of the Lorwyn Eclipsed cards?
Crow_Umbra on sacrificial flames
3 weeks ago
If solo play testing isn't enough and you can't play with other folks IRL, open up another tab and goldfish another deck or two "against" yours. I do that sometimes for strats that are dependent on additional info (Theft decks for example).
Play testing through other decks can also help you see how pacing for different strategies feel, and could give you ideas for your own.
pixelotilz on sacrificial flames
3 weeks ago
Crow_Umbra tbh every time i playtest the hand seems somewhat decent, ngl playtesting is unfortunately not very helpful to me personally, as bein unable to actually pay mana for cards, and test interaction with an opponent kinda hurts the usefullness, but it is a bit helpful
pixelotilz on sacrificial flames
3 weeks ago
Crow_Umbra i see, tbh stuff like ghalta and skullspore and great henge are pretty easy otherwise its somewhat difficult
Crow_Umbra on sacrificial flames
3 weeks ago
Not yet, since Zopandrel's P/T doubling increases the damage from Ziatora's sacrifice. Keep testing it out.
Ultimately, I'd say keep solo play testing the deck a lot. How consistently are you able to cast the cards above 5 mana? Once you're able to, do they feel impactful with what you already have on your board? These are all questions that play testing repeatedly will help you answer.
theNeroTurtle on Competitive Shadow Tribal [Primer]
3 weeks ago
legendofa, thanks for the suggestions. I will think on it for a while. Need to think on what I would cut for them. I like the "triggered ability" part. Those can be a nuisance.
pixelotilz on sacrificial flames
3 weeks ago
Crow_Umbra also, when the cards arrive, I'm planning on adding braids cabal minion, malignus, jumbo cactaur, and putrid goblin to the deck
Crow_Umbra on sacrificial flames
3 weeks ago
I used to have similar concerns about using life to pay for things when I started playing Black, pixelotilz. 's motto is "Greatness at any cost", anything can be a resource.
Personally, I wouldn't worry much about lifegain, especially if Bolas's Citadel is your only means of paying life. I think instead of trying to counterbalance some of these aspects, your deck will be more effective & focused if you lean into what it wants to be doing.
And thank you! It was a fun deck to play. I don't remember what I took it apart for.
alvechkin on Three Days of the Condor
3 weeks ago
This is a fucking WILD idea. I love it. Holy shit.
pixelotilz on sacrificial flames
3 weeks ago
Crow_Umbra thats one kickass deck. but anyways, the main reason im worried about life gain is because of the citadel of bolas, i just am kinda worried about draining my own life, but u got a point
Crow_Umbra on sacrificial flames
3 weeks ago
No prob! Totally understandable regarding the play opportunities so far. Until you can play the deck again IRL, I'd recommend using the play test feature here to get as many solo reps, mostly to get a feel for deck pacing, & to familiarize yourself with the deck before actual games.
I think your instinct for Izoni and Black Market are pretty spot on. I don't think you need to worry about lifegain as much as you might.
Here's my Ognis deck. I haven't played it in a couple of years, so its definitely outdated. Although Ziatora and Ognis both use Treasure, Ognis cares more about using Haste to keep aggro pressure to generate Treasure to then dump to big X Spells, whereas Ziatora has more of the sacrifice focus.
pixelotilz on sacrificial flames
3 weeks ago
Crow_Umbra tbh the two cuts i think would be the best would prolly be izoni and black market
pixelotilz on sacrificial flames
3 weeks ago
Crow_Umbra tbh im not entirely sure what to cut, as i havent really gotten many opportunities to use the deck
pixelotilz on sacrificial flames
3 weeks ago
legendofa I see, thats interesting, i can look into trying to get stuff like ignoble hierarch. stuff like birds of paradise is too expensive for me unfortunately
pixelotilz on sacrificial flames
3 weeks ago
Crow_Umbra i mean tbh i know what cards i shouldnt cut, namely pitiless plunderer, phytotitan, ashnods altar, reassembling skeleton and some others
pixelotilz on sacrificial flames
3 weeks ago
Crow_Umbrai mean a bunch of cards like archfiend of depravity citadel of bolas or jeskas will i just dont ever get the opprotunity to draw, but izoni for one has been lacking a bit, the main reason she has stayed so long is bc of the life gain
Crow_Umbra on sacrificial flames
3 weeks ago
Generally speaking, whenever I'm looking for cuts, I tend to first examine:
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Cards at the higher end of my mana curve, basically anything 5+. I know some of your more costly stuff like Spore Nexus or Ghalta have conditionary cost reductions.
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When looking at higher end cards on my curve, I also ask myself: How reliably can I get the mana for this with the ramp I have? How impactful is this card? How consistent is its effect?
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Throughout the mana curve I also generally look for cards that might be inconsistent in doing what they're supposed to. How many hoops do you have to jump through, and is the payoff worth it?
Sorry that isn't more specific. Are there cards that have felt underwhelming so far in your play testing?
Gex-88 on I AM GROOT!
3 weeks ago
Good list ! What do you think about Timber Protector for this deck to protect your Treefolks (commander included) ?
Doombeard1984 on The First Sliver: Tribal Cascade …
3 weeks ago
Hi there,
Hate to tell you, but this statment:
"4) You may pay the additional mana costs for spells that have actions like Overload, Kicker, or Replicate when cascading as each spell resolves."
Is not correct. Cascade allows you to specifically cast a spell without paying its mana cost. You are unable to apply more than one "alternative mana cost" which both Overload and Cascade effect are.
You then have additional spell costs such as kicker/replicate which you can pay, as this is an additional cost to the spell, not an alternative cost. However bare in mind, if you cascade into an X cost, this would be X=0, and therefore no replicate.
Sorry to be a rules lawyer
+1 though as love a sliver deck (and have one of my own)
legendofa on Competitive Shadow Tribal [Primer]
3 weeks ago
Just a couple of meta and personal choices. You have the high-end counterspells and tutors already. I personally would go with Excise the Imperfect over Oblation, and Tale's End and Disallow will either completely shut down someone's strategy or be useless.
outofnothing0 on I'd Tap That
3 weeks ago
@the_proxie_master: Thanks lol this is a list from when I first made it 13 years ago! Not really looking to update as it's fun how it is. I took it to an event once and it confused people and did actually alright haha
theNeroTurtle on Competitive Shadow Tribal [Primer]
3 weeks ago
legendofa, first off thanks for the upvote. I see that you are pretty familiar with and . Do you have any suggestions for improving my tutor or control sections?
theNeroTurtle on Competitive Shadow Tribal [Primer]
3 weeks ago
YourNeighborhoodGhost, thanks for the upvote. Do you have any suggestions on the removal section or the tutor section? I feel like those could be a bit better.
theNeroTurtle on Competitive Shadow Tribal [Primer]
3 weeks ago
Optimator, very much so. I have a Ulamog, the Defiler deck. Since that entire deck is focused on mana ramp and mana combos, he constantly comes out around turn four. LOL
Optimator on Competitive Shadow Tribal [Primer]
3 weeks ago
I have a Vilis, Broker of Blood deck so I understand the trepidation for high cmc generals. Vilis provides so much that it's a fun minigame to sprint toward him. I would imagine Virtue is similar
theNeroTurtle on Competitive Shadow Tribal [Primer]
3 weeks ago
Optimator, thanks for the comment. My primary "Meh..." about the deck is the CMC of Carl, the Emotional Support Doll. I am not at all a fan of high CMC commanders when the deck is built around them. The other commanders that I do have that are high, I can cheat in quickly in other ways. This one does have regular ramp, but not cheat-in effects. Other than that, shadow is my favorite. My mono black shadow build is super aggressive in 1v1.
Super fun.
Anyway, any suggestions toward the tutor and control would be great. I think those two could be way tighter.
Douldrumn on Circu, the infinite
3 weeks ago
Find one of several infinite combos to make Circu go infinite as soon as he hits the board
AmazingDonkeys on My Dino Deck
3 weeks ago
Most of the cards in the maybe board just cost too much but are good for the deck.
theNeroTurtle on I summon pot of greed …
3 weeks ago
<3
any time I run green, I am a big fan of speed. And green is all about speed when you have access to cards like...
just my opinion.
Voodoo_Gremlin on Improved Omo, Queen of Vesuva
3 weeks ago
Because you're playing Field of the Dead swap one Forest for a Snow-Covered Forest
legendofa on sacrificial flames
3 weeks ago
Welcome to the club, pixelotilz!
First suggestion here is to add more low-mana ramp. Mana dorks like Ignoble Hierarch, Elves of Deep Shadow, and Birds of Paradise
can give you more options in the early turns, and you can find ways to use them once your mana base gets more established.
Most of your high-cost cards have cost reduction based on power, which is good. There's a lot of 2-3 power utility creatures in the 3-5 mana slots here. That's not necessarily bad by itself, but some of them can probably be switched out for more creatures with 4+ power for better discounts. Depending on how risky you want to be (the mention of little life gain suggests this should be a lower-risk deck), some of my thoughts are: Abyssal Persecutor is a big beater that wants to be sacrificed, Hulking Raptor offers another mana option, and Rakdos, Lord of Riots gives you more access to your top-end creatures.
Crow_Umbra on sacrificial flames
3 weeks ago
Hi there, and welcome to Tapped Out. Do you have a budget per card, or for the deck in general? In taking a quick look at your list a few things stood out to me:
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Although your deck has a Treasure focus, you do have a pretty hefty top end to your mana curve, and not as much 1-3 mana ramp for early game.
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I think editing down your spell slots at 5+ mana and swapping them for more early game ramp like: Ignoble Hierarch, Farseek, Fyndhorn Elves, and Nature's Lore could help smooth things out.
It's been a year or two since I took it apart, but I used to play Ognis, the Dragon's Lash, which has some strat overlaps with Ziatora. If you'd like, I an link you my old deck if you want to check it out.
pixelotilz on sacrificial flames
3 weeks ago
btw yall suggestions would be much appreciated, as my main problems with my deck are unreliable mana curve or smth and little life gain
Venum on The Queen's Egg
3 weeks ago
I feel like Thrumming Hivepool was overhyped because we thought it would bring some more Slivers to the set.
Overall, i think it is an OK card at most. It is great if you have a mana sliver (Gemhide of Manaweft) out and you want to ramp with the tokens, but otherwise, we need more card draw.
Have you thought about Trouble in Pairs, kinda of another Smothering tithe...
What do you think of the reanimate combo : Morophon, the Boundless + Fist of Suns + Yawgmoth's Will ?
Always a pleasure reading you!
webbcomics on Ode to Final Fantasy (NES …
3 weeks ago
Updating the deck to include somee of the new final fantasy cards. Wanted to capture the original build here in case someone doesn't have access to final fantasy cards.
*Original Description Adding this one to a casual group of EDH decks designed around classic NES games (The original Final Fantasy for the NEs). Cards that were selected were chosen for theme sometimes over function to add flavor to the deck while keeping its power level in check with the other decks. Suggestions are welcome. This is a five colored deck with creatures representing characters/bosses/mini bosses/npcs from the game. It main focus is to create an arbitrary large amount of mana and dump it into a win condition:
- Kenrith, the returned king (the commander)- King of Cornelia and starts the adventure off
- The Heroes of Light: Kamahl Pit Fighter (fighter), Chainer Nightmare Adept (Thief), Yuriko (Ninja), Alena Kessig Trapper (Red Mage), Danitha Capashen (White Mage), Tivash, Gloom Summoner (Black Mage)
- Bosses: Syr Konrad/Nicol Bolas, God-Pharaoh (Chaos), Nekusar (Lich Earth Fiend), Akroma Angel of Wrath (Fire Fiend), Gyruda Doom of Depths (Kraken Water Fiend), O-Kagachi (Tiamat Wind/Sky Fiend)
- 4 Orbs Heart, Eye, Horn, and Tooth or Ramos
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Supporting NPCs and Mini Bosses: Grand Architect (Cid), Walking Ballista (Warmech), Jarad Golgari lich lord (Astos), Zara Renegade Recruiter (Pravoca Pirates), Oona Queen of the Fae (as the captured fairy) Deck also contains equipment that represent the treasure you would find during game play.
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Original Decklist
Creature (41)
- 1x Akroma, Angel of Fury
- 1x Alena, Kessig Trapper
- 1x Argothian Elder
- 1x Biomancer's Familiar
- 1x Chainer, Nightmare Adeptfoil
- 1x Composite Golem
- 1x Danitha Capashen, Paragon
- 1x Deadeye Navigator
- 1x Elvish Archdruid
- 1x Elvish Harbinger
- 1x Elvish Piper
- 1x Faeburrow Elder
- 1x Fatestitcher
- 1x Fierce Empath
- 1x Grand Architect
- 1x Gyruda, Doom of Depths
- 1x Heliod's Pilgrim
- 1x Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
- 1x Kamahl, Pit Fighter
- 1x Kelpie Guide
- 1x Ley Weaver
- 1x Mirror Entity
- 1x Nekusar, the Mindrazerfoil
- 1x O-Kagachi, Vengeful Kamifoil
- 1x Oona, Queen of the Fae
- 1x Orochi Leafcaller
- 1x Peregrine Drake
- 1x Pili-Pala
- 1x Priest of Titania
- 1x Prismite
- 1x Seeker of Skybreak
- 1x Syr Konrad, the Grim
- 1x Thalia's Lancers
- 1x Tivash, Gloom Summoner
- 1x Tribute Mage
- 1x Trophy Mage
- 1x Walking Ballista
- 1x Wirewood Channeler
- 1x Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow
- 1x Zara, Renegade Recruiter
- 1x Zirda, the Dawnwake
Land (34)
- 1x Academy Ruins
- 1x Azorius Chancery
- 1x Caves of Koilos
- 1x Command Tower
- 1x Dimir Aqueduct
- 1x Evolving Wilds
- 6x Forest
- 7x Island
- 1x Izzet Boilerworks
- 1x Llanowar Wastes
- 4x Mountain
- 2x Plains
- 1x Shivan Reef
- 1x Simic Growth Chamber
- 3x Swamp
- 1x Terramorphic Expanse
- 1x Yavimaya Coast
Enchantment (7)
- 1x Cryptolith Rite
- 1x Fertile Ground
- 1x Freed from the Real
- 1x Gift of Paradise
- 1x Mana Reflection
- 1x Pemmin's Aura
- 1x Utopia Sprawl
Planeswalker (1) - 1x Nicol Bolas, God-Pharaoh
Instant (1) - 1x Crop Rotation GC
Artifact (14)
- 1x Arcane Signet
- 1x Basalt Monolith
- 1x Energy Refractor
- 1x Eye of Ramos
- 1x Heart of Ramos
- 1x Heartstone
- 1x Horn of Ramos
- 1x Nim Deathmantle
- 1x Sol Ring
- 1x Staff of Domination
- 1x Swiftfoot Boots
- 1x Thought Vessel
- 1x Tooth of Ramos
- 1x Umbral Mantle
Sorcery (1) - 1x Sylvan Scrying
LiterallyHitler on Courtesy of the red, white …
3 weeks ago
theNeroTurtleApproach of the Second Sun is fine but in most cases if I want to win I'll just tutor Magistrate's Scepter. I also don't really have the card draw usually to make Approach work fast enough.
NomadicJoe96Ornithopter of Paradise is fine but it has 0 power so it can't crew the spaceship. :(
DrummerGarrett on A Goof in Progress
3 weeks ago
Replace Jester's Mask with Eldrazi Conscription... Because what's funnier than an Eldrazi power level Frog, Hippo, or Yeti ?!?!?
