For fog decks, it's all about visibility. rimshot

then i guess i win, cause like John Cena they can't see me. groan

You inspired me to build my own turbo fog deck, and i wanted to run 3x Memory adepts in mine, however, i only own 3 which is fine. however, for the sheer absolute fun of it, i put in one karn liberated in my deck. It works ridiculously well i must say. you can either control the board with karns minus ability or use his plus ability on yourself to exile rites of Flourishing(assuming restarting the game is your goal) and jaces erasure. with all of your fog cards it really isn't hard to restart the game at all in 3 turns. Also, it may very well just make your opponent concede lol.

Also, a problem i'm thinking the deck may have but i am trying to address, is Grand Abolisher. what do you do if your opponent gets him out? Maybe you already discussed this, but i missed it.

In my deck I use Oblivion Ring or Karn Liberated against GA.

This deck does not like Grand Abolisher, it's true. Main deck, the only real thing you can do about it is to hope for Blasphemous Act anytime he hits the field. Snapcaster Mage and Charmbreaker Devils can let you reuse it if need be, but to be honest that card really messes with this deck. Imagine the Abolisher equipped with Sword of War and Peace. shudder

The sideboard nets you a couple of options, however. Chief of those is Beast Within. The only other real option is to try to Surgical Extraction a destroyed or milled Abolisher in order to be rid of them entirely.

Either way, the Grand Abolisher doesn't TOTALLY shut you down, but it does make winning almost purely based on the luck of the draw.

-2 Blunt the Assault -1 Charmbreaker Devils and +3 Wall of Tanglecord so you can hold the early aggro without spend so many Fogs.

+1 to Dementation fog.

plz comment and rate my deck deck:ub-mill-112

@quargur- smart players take the early damage. I've said before, and will say again, life and infect counters need to be thought of as more form of stalls. The first 19 life don't matter, just that last 1. If you think like that, Blunt works double duty.

after reading the comments on your version, take a look at my turbofog and tell me what you think of it. deck:g-turbofog-standard thanks for the help on mine too Nephilim seems like you just love turbofogs XD and its true, this deck gets annoying super fast. maybe Lost in the Woods? it kinda rotates your deck for you if Ponders just not working for you.

I see there's no swamps but I'm still surprised there's no Nephalia Drownyard in this one.

Draygo why, Nephalia Drownyard is the slowest most worthless ability land I've seen in a long time?

@Minousmancer Well considering people were playing the fool out of it at the Grand Prix and this is a mill deck, it seems to fit pretty well. If Jace, Memory Adept, Jace's Erasure (if he puts it back in), Rites of Flourishing and enough land with Nephalia Drownyard is out, You can Mill them for 17 cards a turn.

Splashing black for the drownyards just doesn't seem necessary. It has its place in U/B control, but the mill of this deck is more incidental. Jace and Increasing Confusion are just convenient win conditions that work while completely disregarding combat.

A BUG version of this deck could be made, with Black Sun's Zenith instead of Blasphemous Act . I'd use the drownyards then. But as long as I'm using red instead, I'm going to hold off.

I ran this deck at FNM tonight because I had the cards for it. I went 4-1 and took 4th, so props to you! My biggest problem was a R/G Hellrider deck. I hadn't realized that Hellrider doesn't target a player, so Witchbane Orb can't do anything against it. I think instead of witchbanes I am going to run a playset of Spellskites if I play this deck next week. The highlight of the tournament for me was Blasphemous Act ing a guy who had 11 forests out, 2 Wurmcoil Engines and 4 Dungrove Elders each equipped with a Sword of Feast and Famine. Oh man it was fun :)

By the way Phalynxx, Spellskites require a target to redirect, so if you're trying to beat Hellrider, you'll have to look elsewhere. It has the same problem as Witchbane Orb.

By the way, I'm making a deck that functions like a hyper-fog deck but with a lifegain premise. I could use some help narrowing down the cards: Fog of Life

I ran this last night, got second place.

I played with 2 jace's 2 sphinx and two charmbreakers.

I think im going to try and play 1 sphinx, and 3 undead alchemist. Ill post the build in a bit.

@Phalynxx, theurbanraptor I am so glad this deck is actually working well for you! I missed out on FNM this weekend on account of tornadoes, etc., so it's good to see the deck's getting played in the meantime. Thanks!

I know Hellrider is still a huge issue, I side-boarded Beast Within against, but never drew it. The reason I would use Spellskite is simply because of the presence of other burn spells usually in those with hellrider.

Jace's Erasure + Rites of Flourishing

Fog + Mana Leak

Counterlash + Sorin's Vengeance

Inspired this: deck:erasing-rites

Why Counterlash?

he uses it to cast Sorin's Vengeance, but honestly I think he shood take out Counterlash and Sorin's Vengeance

here you go! deck:weather-report-foggy-with-a-chance-of-zombies

parasitian is correct, the right conditions are met I could possible cast it turn 4 if the right conditions are met, the fact that I could cast such a powerful black spell with a U/G deck with no black Mana is awesome.

Well, I love Sorin's Vengeance, it kicks huge ***, so even though it's "bad", I would run it in any deck that it fits into.

P.S. Please translate all strings of "" as "monkey to the face". Decipher that, eh?

what do you think about using a few Inkmoth Nexus as an alternate wincon?

I don't own any myself, and I'm not really crazy about buying/trading for any (personal preference here. I recognize it's a really great card, I'm just sort of indifferent), so I'll hold off on adding them to the above decklist.

Still, alternate win-cons are a good thing to have handy, so long as they don't interfere with your primary strategy. So yeah, whatever works! Go for it, I say.