Tossing green out of the house — land-ramp without Green
Commander (EDH) forum
Posted on Nov. 22, 2025, 2:36 p.m. by Idoneity
For the last few years, I have dove deeply into ramping via lands in commander. I still play an Arcane Signet or two for density's sake, but I've come to appreciate the corner-case complexity of land-ramping without cards designed to do so.
Green gets off easiest, getting a Rampant Growth every once and a while.
White has clearly risen to second best in this field with their Brought Backs and Claim Jumpers, each combining fruitfully with fetchlands and Lotus Field.
However, other colours need to outsource. I've seen discussion around Blue copying fetches with Virtue of Knowledge or simply casting Mitotic Manipulation. Black just got Dai Li Indoctrination. And Red just can't do much.
There's some universal ones: Mirran Safehouse, Surveyor's Scope, Dowsing Dagger Flip, Wayfarer's Bauble, Myriad Landscape, etc....
But what others are out there? I know MTG-Goldfish inspired a lot of these, but it also encouraged me to get creative. So I'm curious what means other people have mustered!
plakjekaas says... #3
Retraced Image is one I have used in mono blue to put down an additional Island in commander
November 24, 2025 3:30 a.m.
Prototype Portal exiling an artifact land is sweet, especially something like Treasure Vault. Even Wayfarer's Bauble is three mana rampant growth every turn under it
Peter Parker's Camera still feels slept on...as long as you have an expensive manabase with lots of fetches. Though copying a myriad landscape trigger with it is a drug. And copying an Evolving Wilds or whatever with it still feels sweet
Goldfish totally blew this up, but I feel like enough time has passed since then that I can go back to claiming this: Savor the Moment is mono-blue Explore. Just explain that forcefully to the table, and promise it isn't part of a combo
November 24, 2025 11:16 a.m.
hyalopterouslemur says... #5
I mean, is it odd that I don't have the problems with artifact ramp that people say they do? In my experience, people only go after artifact ramp in one of three cases:
- Casting a Slice in Twain and they have nothing else to target. This is probably the rarest, though, though Slice in Twain is good artifact/enchantment hate.
- They have a Vandalblast or Bane of Progress or similar. Probably the most common.
- Mycosynth Lattice Stax. And now we get the in-between. The thing is, if they're doing it right, my lands will already be artifacts, and vulnerable to Kill Switch, Null Rod, Aura Shards, or what have you.
November 24, 2025 4:04 p.m.
hyalopterouslemur — You're not wrong! It doesn't come up the most often for me. It's really only ever because of Farewells and the other stray sweepers of the world, but those cards see play from time to time. I just like to assure that my resources stick, as I'm sure many others do.
Though last week, I did have someone deliberate over shattering either an opponent's Swiftfoot Boots or my Arcane Signet.
legendofa says... #2
Dreamscape Artist is a bit of Planar Chaos weirdness. Add in Freed from the Real + Illusionist's Bracers + Seer's Sundial and you can pull every basic land out of your deck. (Tatyova, Benthic Druid uses , so putting that one aside for now.)
Red just got Molten Man, Inferno Incarnate. Black has Korlash, Heir to Blackblade (but that takes some extra hoops to jump through in Commander).
November 22, 2025 3:05 p.m.