Obscure mono-red infinite combos?

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Posted on April 11, 2013, 10:56 a.m. by meecht

Every week, the same people in my playgroup always win, and it's usually through some infinite combo. The game will be slow and fun, then a sudden one turn win out of nowhere as their pieces fall into place. What really sucks is they always seem to get placed in pods with the more casual players (including myself), which gives them an easy win.

I'd like to find a way to "snipe" these players out of my pod so us more casual players can continue in peace. For example, attack just the combo player with 30,000,000 tokens from a Zealous Conscripts + Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker combo. However, everybody knows that combo and will likely retaliate if I get either piece on the field, or at least once Kiki-Jiki hits the field.

I know there aren't any unknown combos by now, but are there any obscure combos that I could pull off that might not immediately raise red flags until it's too late? Single-target ones would be best due to the ability to snipe a single player out of the pod.

Devonin says... #2

Aggravated Assault + Sword of Feast and Famine on a creature that can get through any blockers.

Mana Geyser + Reiterate + Any 1 mana burn spell if they have 7 or more tapped lands.

April 11, 2013 11:10 a.m.

Epochalyptik says... #3

@Devonin: Mana Geyser + Reiterate can be used with burn spells of any cost considering it makes infinite mana. You do need 11 mana to start the combo, though.

April 11, 2013 11:22 a.m.

Ohthenoises says... #4

Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker + Lightning Crafter + sac outlet or Warstorm Surge .

Krenko, Mob Boss + Mana Echoes + Umbral Mantle + Any X cost burn spell.

Who is your general btw?

April 11, 2013 11:54 a.m.

zephyrkey says... #5

I run a mono-red Krenko, Mob Boss EDH deck that has some fun combos, though most of them are pretty obvious unfortuantely:

Krenko + Thornbite Staff + any sac outlet (Skirk Prospector is my favourite, though Blasting Station gives you infinite damage)

Krenko + Umbral Mantle + Mana Echoes

Jar of Eyeballs or Goblin Recruiter + Goblin Charbelcher : the recruiter part of the combo can be a little obvious (though you can often just win on the spot with it), but no-one ever sees the jar part!

Ib Halfheart, Goblin Tactician + Nemesis Mask is fun, especially if you also have Basilisk Collar , but it doesn't kill anyone on the spot.

Goblin King + Blood Moon and about a zillion tokens!

April 11, 2013 11:55 a.m.

meecht says... #6

My general is Norin the Wary .

April 11, 2013 noon

Devonin says... #7

How is Ib Halfheart and Nemesis mask a combo? At least, any more than "Any creature at all" and Nemesis Mask is a combo?

I do really like the Krenko/Mantle/Mana Echoes though.

April 11, 2013 12:07 p.m.

Devonin says... #8

Oh, I guess you mean "Ib Halfheart doing nothing, and Nemesis Mask on another goblin entirely" that makes a LOT more sense.

April 11, 2013 12:08 p.m.

andydw says... #9

Zealous Conscripts + Splinter Twin is a mono red variation of this infinite combo.

April 11, 2013 4:31 p.m.

ytrewqman says... #10

Siege-Gang Commander +Lightning Crafter +Nim Deathmantle +Phyrexian Altar /Ashnod's Altar /Thermopod and any way to give haste. Round about infinite damage that isn't expected or ever seen coming. You could also have an alternate sac outlet if you've got Mana Echoes .

November 4, 2013 4:39 p.m.

LiquidKid says... #11

Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker and Zealous Conscripts for infinite hasty dudes. Just summon the conscripts and target Kiki, untapping Kiki, tap Kiki targeting the Conscripts to make a token....rinse and repeat.

November 5, 2013 9:51 a.m.

shaistyone says... #12

I get a lot of mileage out of Goblin Sharpshooter and Basilisk Collar .

Also, Stranglehold will prevent like 75% of combo decks from going off.

November 11, 2013 1:09 p.m.

Amnesiac_ says... #13

You can always make combo players lives a living hell by making them play through stuff that shut down pieces of punish them for trying to combo out, things like Torpor Orb , Witchbane Orb , Dingus Staff , Grafdigger's Cage , Mimic Vat , Teferi's Puzzle Box , Vicious Shadows , Stranglehold , AEther Flash , Possibility Storm , and Knowledge Pool . As a combo based player myself I can tell you these cards make it very difficult to make all the pieces fall into place without getting at least a part of them killed. As an example see this mono red list, it is great at stopping combo players. Hidetsugu, Traitor to All

December 31, 2013 10:59 a.m.

Femme_Fatale says... #14

Who decided it was a good idea to re-animate this thread twice?

January 1, 2014 9:56 p.m.

Ohthenoises says... #15

Apparently you and I?

January 1, 2014 10:10 p.m.

meecht says... #16

I swear this is the thread that doesn't die. Just before it falls into oblivion, somebody drags it back.

January 1, 2014 10:42 p.m.

Femme_Fatale says... #17

January 1, 2014 10:56 p.m.

z2aaa says... #18

what was the turn one win? im vary curious lol

January 1, 2014 11 p.m.

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