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Jet Medallion
Artifact
Black spells you cast cost less to cast.
Icaruskid on
Shadowborn Demons | Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker
4 months ago
Profet93 Thank you for all the ideas!
This deck needs 5+ mana as fast as possible so Extraplanar Lens and the Snow-Covered Swamp automatically makes any game easier. I love that. And before that addition, Liliana of the Dark Realms was there to make sure I hit all my land drops, add to the combat damage win condition, and promise big mana that the deck thirsts for if unanswered. It's probably a flex spot now that I have enough low cost artifact ramp though. I might try Carnival of Souls there. It's lower cost and I like the suicide black theme.
I'm on the fence about Jet Medallion. I have one but it doesn't produce black mana so it's not ideal for pumping out Apostles or activating them. It does help get Shirei out faster but if I'm hard-casting demons where it would be useful I'm already losing.
Secret Salvage is a house in my Athreos, God of Passage > combo build but it doesn't help much here except to rebuild after a board wipe. I think the proactive route with Eldrazi Monument might be better in the more casual pods that I'm trying to run this in as it's permanent protection from board wipes and it makes the Apostles a threat themselves with flying and the +1 power buff.
Still tinkering and I appreciate the angles you are providing. This is a fun deck to try out all the ideas!
Profet93 on
Shadowborn Demons | Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker
4 months ago
Icaruskid +1
Glad to see some suggestions from the previous comment went through.
Not a serious suggestion, but I found Secret Salvage which is a fun card.
Jet Medallion > Charcoal diamond - if ur budget allows
Carnival of Souls - I wonder how this card would work in this deck. Prob not but worth noting for cool potential interactions.
What is the point of PW Lili?
Winding Canyons - Not an entirely serious suggestion, but cool with lili contract or just preventing ur shadowborns from dying to wipes?
Speaking of instant speed interaction, why don't you run at least one instant spell?
Hybrow on
Heart of Black Coal - Ayara ETB trigger EDH
4 months ago
Hey Profet93, thanks so much for the view and suggestions
Jet Medallion I originally had in deck, but found that the ramp didn’t help in my commander, and quite a few of the spells I play over and over don’t have any colorless costs, so I swapped it out for Bontu's Monument, which had the bonus of doubling my commanders ability.
Bubbling Muck – I don’t love the one-time use of it. Would take the space of something that I can use again and again in this deck.
Cabal Stronghold – I think this is a carryover from before I had a coffers. I could easily swap it out for Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth. I actually have one sitting in a binder not getting used.
Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx – Of all the lands, this is the one I like the most. I checked and there isn’t one in my binder, but I do have sitting in a for-fun The Colossal Dreadmaw deck. Would probably swap out Castle Locthwain. The draw is nice but find I don’t generally need it.
Deserted Temple is ok, but I don’t have mana doublers and other than coffers (and I guess now Nythos there isn’t really anything I need to untap.
Thespian's Stage and Vesuva – I am not a huge fan of the copy lands, V in particular enters tapped, which I hate. And they are both dependent on me having something that is worth copying, which isn’t always the case.
Contamination – If I had a different playgroup, this would be an automatic add, but my friend group doesn’t love playing mass land hate. A Strip Mine is fine, but something that shuts down another player completely, we generally don’t play just to keep everyone having fun. Infernal Darkness is kinda the same thing, so going to pass.
Imp's Mischief I just checked, and I do not own one, but am going to have to add it to my next buy list. Mono-coloured decks have some real blind spots and having a quazi-counter available would be great.
Skullclamp is going to go on a sidelist for this deck for a while. My mono-red Purphy relies on it for draw, but so far with Ayara hasn’t really needed the extra draw very much.
Carnival of Souls – I did have this one in an early build of this deck, but with my wincon being Plague of Vermin this wouldn’t work, and I feel like in a 4-player game I am going to lose more life than I can afford.
Thanks again for the suggestions. I have already added the two lands.
Profet93 on
Heart of Black Coal - Ayara ETB trigger EDH
4 months ago
Hybrow +1, great description.
Jet Medallion - Ramp
Bubbling Muck - Ramp. Given you're not running Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, this ramp will most liklely be onesided
Im unsure if you have enough basics to warrant cabal stronghold. Best case scenario: Turn 5 you have 4 basic swamps and stronghold to break even. While it's nice to have in the later game, I wonder how impactful it really is at that point. Would you not be better served by another utility land such as Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx, Thespian's Stage, Deserted Temple or even a Vesuva? Nykthos seems like an easy ramp choice, stage/vesuva can copy coffer or other utility land, temple can untap coffers or be a political tool. I feel that rather than spreading your "land ramp" between coffers and stronghold, you should just go all in on coffers. It's easier to chase one rabbit than two if you get what I'm saying. How has stronghold been playing for you? I've found it more impactful in primarily budget decks with an overwhelming amount of basic lands.
Contamination - Mild stax (they can use dorks or rocks to bypass it) that shuts off their land mana production, including both sides mass mana producing lands (cradle, nykthos, lake of the dead, serra sanctum, etc...). With all your token generation, it seems like a shoe in. Not to mention it's synergy with reassembling skeleton and other cards that u can recur from ur grave easily. Should contamination be too much/rude, Infernal Darkness is a similar effect that doesn't shut off mass mana producing lands and can be easily kept for 1-2 turns while you get your set up. Both can be probably used to make the blue player float all their mana in an attempt to cast a counterspell during the current phase - aka, counterbait.
Regarding Problem 1/protecting your commander, I would go with the versatile tool, Imp's Mischief - It redirects targeted removal, draw, extra turns and can "counter" counterspells. Most spot removal in EDH is cheap so you probably wont lose much life and with all your lifegain, this potential concern appears heavily mitigated.
You have a lot of token generation, so perhaps Skullclamp might be worth considering. It is nice to use on ur commander as well given it's the lynchpin of your deck.
Not a serious suggestion, but I wonder how Carnival of Souls would work with this deck, do note it activates on any creature, not just yours.
Phule451 on
Swamps Matter
4 months ago
Thank you for the upvote indieinside. I actually tried Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth but found most often it was just a swamp so just swapped it out for a basic swamp since I’m not running too many utility lands. I’m kinda priced out of Lake of the Dead and Phyrexian Tower. I can’t believe I’d missed Jet Medallion so thanks for helping me catch that!!!
theNeroTurtle on
Swamps Matter
4 months ago
Obviously these totally come down to budget, but here are a few.
Because you are playing Cabal Coffers you should totally be playing Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth.
Phyrexian Tower – Mana Ramp
Lake of the Dead – Mana Ramp
Since you are playing Animate Dead you should also consider Dance of the Dead and Necromancy. They do the same thing. Gives you more consistency.
Other ramp:
Profet93 on
Obby’s Mono Black Landstorm
9 months ago
I'm glad the snow swamps helped and yeah, I misread the panharmonicron after I posted it, oops.
Regarding black ramp, Dark Ritual is a solid card. I typically don't like one use ramp spells but if a deck has enough draw, that drawback is usually mitigated by the tempo and/or value they achieve. Black isn't crazy for ramp, most of it is saccing creatures but that's not what this deck does. As such, colorless options like mind stone, Arcane Signet, and Jet Medallion
Shizo, Death's Storehouse - Evasions
Deserted Temple - Untap coffers or lake of dead and can act as a political tool.
Cut Consideration --> Scrib Nibblers - Can mess with topdeck tutors, maybe mess with opposing land source, maybe help them get a good card. Lifegain is nice but not needed. It's landfall ability isn't impactful enough IMO.
mistakesxd on
havent played mtg ever, 1st custom deck
11 months ago
Will definetly consider one of those for sure! I think I will probably add Jet Medallion too.
Thoughts on having 37 lands? I've read around 33-40 is decent, may just remove 2 of each and add special ones instead.
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