Ideas for a Kynaios and Tiro Deck

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Posted on Jan. 25, 2020, 1:37 p.m. by DemonDragonJ

I am planning to build an EDH deck with Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis as the general, so I would be very interested to hear any ideas for such a deck that anyone here can offer to me.

The purpose of the deck will be to ostensibly assist the other players and influence them into attacking each other while avoiding attacking me, until I have sufficient resources to defeat everyone, or, more ideally, for the other players to eliminate each other until I have only one opponent, whom I can then defeat.

Cards such as Edric, Spymaster of Trest, Gahiji, Honored One, or Gisela, Blade of Goldnight shall encourage my opponents to attack each other and discourage them from attacking me. Cards such as Propaganda, Ghostly Prison, Sphere of Safety, Kazuul, Tyrant of the Cliffs, and Windborn Muse will make it unprofitable to attack me. Cards such as Collective Voyage, Minds Aglow, or Tempt with Discovery will make other players wish to keep me alive for as possible, so that they can continue to benefit from my presence.

What does everyone else say about this? What are some ideas or suggestions for an EDH deck with Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis as its general?

DemonDragonJ says... #2

Does anyone have anything to say on this subject?

January 25, 2020 11:41 p.m.

Ghosthunter39 says... #3

What about the new Tahngarth, First Mate

January 26, 2020 9:06 p.m.

DemonDragonJ says... #4

Ghosthunter39, that is an interesting suggestion, but how does he fit into the idea of a "group hug" deck? I personally believe that Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist would be a much better option.

January 26, 2020 9:39 p.m.

DemonDragonJ says... #5

What ideas does anyone here have for a name for such a deck? I currently am considering either "Keep Away From Me" or "Kill them With Kindness," but both of those names sound too aggressive for a deck that I plan to be very defensive.

January 26, 2020 10:24 p.m.

DerektheRed says... #6

"Hug It Out" ? "We love you to death" ?

Four colors means your build options are actually pretty diverse, tho group hug is always at least a sub-theme. I run a landfall deck with them, so Tatyova, Benthic Druid, Sakura-Tribe Scout, and landfall triggers in addition to group hug. Recently added Chulane, Teller of Tales for landfall but also more card draw.

If you go heavy on draw with group hug stuff like Temple Bell / Dictate of Kruphix / Well of Ideas but also cards like Rhystic Study and Consecrated Sphinx, you can potentially win out of nowhere with Psychosis Crawler and to a lesser extent Chasm Skulker.

If you want more group hug stuff, there's no end of enchantments (Aurification, Fight or Flight, Dissipation Field) and artifacts. (and you can put Zedruu the Greathearted in there!) Lots of new-ish group hug cards like Coveted Jewel that get passed around the table.

Lastly, since you're currently emphasizing 'attack them not me' cards like Edric and Gahjji, I'd consider Marisi, Breaker of the Coil and staple cards like Assault Suit. Obviously, Marisi is a little more aggressive / less group hug... If you want to go that route you could throw in Dictate of the Twin Gods or similar.

Happy brewing!

January 27, 2020 1:59 a.m.

Hey, i build a Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis Deck some time ago. Works really well in my Playgroup. here is the link: https://deckstats.net/decks/126210/1535592-watch-the-world-burn/en hope you will find some Inspiration. Best Regards

January 27, 2020 4:43 p.m.

DemonDragonJ says... #8

I have decided to name the deck "Kill them with Kindness," because that name makes the most sense, to me.

Is Dragonlair Spider a good card for a Kynaios and Tiro deck? Does it fit with the theme?

February 2, 2020 2:03 p.m.

DemonDragonJ says... #9

Is Sphinx of Enlightenment a good card for such a deck?

February 3, 2020 10:01 p.m.

DerektheRed says... #10

do you have a way to pump tokens? Dragonlair Spider is great for chump blocks, but becomes way better if you have stuff like Nissa, Voice of Zendikar or Cathars' Crusade.

I love sphinxes so I'm biased, but I think SoE is exactly the kind of card this deck wants -- politics win.

February 7, 2020 5:25 p.m.

DemonDragonJ says... #11

DerektheRed, I like your ideas, but I have not yet posted the deck on this forum, so, after I have done that, I shall be able to ask for further advice.

February 8, 2020 1 a.m.

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