March 9, 2017 10:10 p.m.
March 9, 2017 10:30 p.m.
The monkey also turns on Fatal Push every turn, more fun realizations from play testing.
March 9, 2017 10:48 p.m.
This is a hilarious idea for a deck (I mean that in a good way). I see that you have Defiant Salvager and Morbid Curiosity in the maybeboard. Curiosity seems better than Altar's Reap. Double black mana sucks, and it's sorcery, but I don't think that's a huge problem since you'll want to cast it on like turn five after a wrangle, and on your own turn. Indomitable Creativity is also a card to consider. On the unlikely chance that you can go expertise into wrangle then play the creativity for 5 mana, you'll basically win (and it'll be funny).
Other than that, Goblin Dark-Dwellers is a good card in general, but really sweet in this deck. And if it were me, I might throw one or two Noxious Gearhulk's in the sideboard. Thanks for the decklist, good luck at FNM's!
March 11, 2017 3:26 p.m.
March 11, 2017 6:09 p.m.
I really like this deck! I'm a newer player but I am going to build this. Can I ask why not 4x Scrapheap Scrounger instead of the glint sleeve? and why not 4x smoldering marsh and pull 1 of each basic?
March 11, 2017 9:36 p.m.
archfield1 yeah, dark-dwellers and noxious do have high cmc's. I would still make the petition for dark-dwellers though, it does a lot of great things in this deck. The choice is yours of course, but think about it. Maybe if you proxy it up and play with it, you'll change your mind.
Not trying to tell you how to build your deck, but I've changed my mind many times after a few playtests with cards I hadn't really considered.
March 11, 2017 9:48 p.m.
Stephen, I'm going to remove the Village Messengers. I just don't think they are that good. I was thinking of adding 1 each of Yahenni and Kari, and then 2 goblin dark dwellers
March 11, 2017 11:02 p.m.
That sounds pretty good. Leaves you with no turn one plays, but this is more midrange than agro, so yeah, that seems good. Thanks for letting me know, I'd love to see where this deck goes and how it transforms. It's a sweet list.
March 12, 2017 1:20 a.m.
Scrapheap Scrounger is definitely in consideration as a swap for Village Messenger Flip, but as mentioned the Messenger provides a turn one play, and is surprisingly good especially on the play, having recently seen it in action.
March 12, 2017 1:29 a.m.
Smoldering Marsh helps fix the mana but I've been burned by running the full four, you don't want two in your opening hand or it's a mulligan.
March 12, 2017 1:31 a.m.
Yo whats up. I switched out 4x Village Messenger Flip for 4x Bomat Courier. Then i changed out x2 Fatal Push for x2 Unlicensed Disintegration. What do you think about this change? I am looking to plot in just a few more artifacts so i can keep using Unlicensed Disintegration at it's biggest potential. Overall i am a huge fan of Unlicensed Disintegration so i really want to make it fit.
March 12, 2017 3:03 p.m.
I've played around a little bit with Kari Zev's Expertise before and lemme tell you it does wonders with Invigorated Rampage, especially vs heavier decks (although this deck is a little tight and inv rampage is more of a finisher than a synergistic piece).Otherwise this is hands down the best built steal->sac deck I've seen! Well balanced and thought out, and most of all - looks fun as hell! I would like to know how you sideboard Lost Legacy, Transgress and Skysovereign. Also could you give me some feedback on Hanweir Garrison's performance. I would like to use it in a deck of mine but I'm not sure how it will fair out.
March 12, 2017 4:05 p.m.
Thanks Mokan, and Lost Legacy is in the board specifically for Copy Cat to pull Saheeli out of the deck, Transgress the Mind is great against threats like Fumigate and Unlicensed Disintegration in decks like this one that can only interact on the board, and Skysovereign, Consul Flagship is there to go over the top of board stalls (Servo decks, BG Constrictor, etc).
March 12, 2017 5:15 p.m.
I have not played with Hanweir Garrison yet, but I have played against it more than once, and it's a card that has to be dealt with before it floods the board or merges with Hanweir Battlements. It's very effective now with Kari Zev, Skyship Raider in play, you attack with 5 creatures for the price of only casting 2.
March 12, 2017 5:30 p.m.
I tested it out today playing against my father with Mardu Ballista. Soon I'll test against U/R Dynavolt and G/B Counters. This deck is strong and a lot of fun! Hanweir Garrison is awesome as arch said, also the fact that the tokens aren't banished at the end step is really good imo. I was thinking about Unlicensed Disentigration but there just really aren't any artifacts to power it. I took out 2 Fleetwheel Cruiser 4 Glint-Sleeve Siphoner and 4 Village Messenger. The cruisers are nice, but I feel like you need more land, running 22 I seem to come up short more often than I want too. I added 1 more each of Yahenni and Kari Zev, those are cards you want to see. I get not running 4 because they are legendary but 3 each makes it so you can count on seeing at least one or the other if not both each game. I also added the 2 Smoldering Marsh for 24 lands total and 2 Goblin Dark-Dwellers and 4 Scrapheap Scrounger in place of the Glint Sleeves. Glint Sleeve dies so easily I just never get to use his card draw effect. He eats either Fatal Push or one ping from Walking Ballista and Scrapheap is more aggro-esk and is harder to deal with. Goblin Dark Dweller is my MVP turn 5, play him with expertise in the grave and wrangle in your hand is so, so good.
March 12, 2017 10:27 p.m.
Consider swapping out the Fleetwheel Cruisers for a pair of Aethersphere Harvester. The extra energy goes a long way to power the card draw from Glint-Sleeve Siphoner and it can be piloted by anything. The extra life that gives back can go a long way too. I absolutely love those two cards paired together.
March 13, 2017 10:04 p.m.
March 14, 2017 2 p.m.
Keep Glint-Sleeve Siphoner. That card is ridiculously good.
March 14, 2017 6:16 p.m.
April 3, 2017 1:49 a.m.
I was running a similar deck with Kari Zev as a mono red deck wins, until I saw your combo with Yahenni and now I'm splashing black.
April 3, 2017 1:52 a.m.
After playing it for three weeks now, I've had a couple realizations:
2) I'm struggling to find a good 4-drop finisher in red and black right now. Fleetwheel Cruiser is nice the turn it comes down, but after that you have to give up another attaching creature just to swing with it. Tried Skyship Stalker as well but it's just too expensive at 5 mana for a 3/3 flying haste.
April 5, 2017 10:56 a.m.
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|Date added||8 months|
|Last updated||4 months|
This deck is not Standard legal.Highlight illegal cards
|Illegal cards||Earthshaker Khenra , Abrade|
|Folders||Standard, standar, Kari Zev's Thievery, Interesting Standard Decks, aer, Interesting ideas, Standard Deck Ideas|
|Top rank||#10 on 2017-03-21|
Revision 15 See all
4 months ago)
|-2||Heart of Kiran||main|
|-2||Yahenni, Undying Partisan||main|
|+1||Cut / Ribbons||main|
|-1||Westvale Abbey Flip||side|
|+2||Yahenni, Undying Partisan||side|
|+2||Hazoret the Fervent||side|
|-3||Transgress the Mind||side|