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Hellfire Mongrel
Creature — Elemental Dog
At the beginning of each opponent's upkeep, if that player has two or fewer cards in hand, Hellfire Mongrel deals 2 damage to him or her.
zapyourtumor on Well, Who Let Them Out?
2 years ago
MB: Hound of Griselbrand , Isamaru, Hound of Konda ?
SB: Hellfire Mongrel against aggro/burn
KayneMarco on Discarded Treachery
4 years ago
Since you’re using a discard strategy have you considered cards that punish opponents for having a low hand count rather than Megrim effects? Cards such as this list:
- Hellfire Mongrel
- Lavaborn Muse
- Nezumi Shortfang  Flip flipped
- Rackling
- Skullcage
- The Rack
- Wheel of Torture
- Quest for the Nihil Stone
- Shrieking Affliction
- Storm World
- Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage
With these types of cards your opponents will be taking damage even if they haven’t discarded. The problem with megrim type cards is if opponents have nothing to discard the megrim type cards are just dead cards at that point. The cards I suggested on the other hand will be doing damage every turn. I’m not saying use all of them just saying some of them could replace megrim type cards. Myself though, I’ld make room for all of them because I go all in when it comes to certain themes.
FenrisBurgess on
4 years ago
- Playing a deck like this will inevitably lead to your opponent without much of a hand.
- This will leave the spells that damage your opponent for discarding mostly useless.
- At the same time, this means anything they happen to come across, they will play almost immediately, meaning your discard strategy won't be nearly as effective.
- The Rack type effects are best for this kind of deck.
- Examples of viable rack type cards are Paupers' Cage , Skullcage , and Bulwark .
- You are already using these in the forms of Lavaborn Muse and Hellfire Mongrel
- Black Vise type effects could be useful if you plan to force feed your opponent, but since you're making them discard, I don't see much point in that.
- If your goal is to discard, running mill cards isn't going to help your strategy. You're reducing the deck's consistency by including them.
- You're going to want to run Painful Quandary simply due to its taxing nature.
- Lastly, you have a lot of mana rocks, but no artifacts that serve any utility, and more questionably, no Chromatic Lantern . While you have some X and higher cost spells, all that mana could be a dead draw, especially considering you're running 37 lands already.
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Add in something like Strionic Resonator , or anything else that can make use of your permanent's abilities.
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Keep in mind you're using a strategy that is considered low-power unless it is executed in a specific way. I don't see you having very much fun with this deck as it currently is, but who knows, maybe you are.
Malzelda on Rise of the Ravager
5 years ago
Painful Quandary is huge for this kind of deck, as well as Oppression. Cyclonic Rift and other spells like it help bounce unwanted permanents to hands, and give fuel to the fire. Also consider cards like Lavaborn Muse and Hellfire Mongrel to make opponents suffer even when their hand is low. Torment of Hailfire is a great finisher/removal for a discard based deck. I feel this deck is similar to my commander deck based on Crosis, the Purger, so if you would like more recommendations, just let me know. :)
Gripe_Sliver on Megrim Effect
5 years ago
Khorvath's Fury, Windfall, Geth's Grimoire, Waste Not, Painful Quandary, Torment of Hailfire, Jace's Archivist, Perplex, Decree of Pain, Blasphemous Act, Reforge the Soul, Pain Magnification, Lavaborn Muse, Hollow Specter, Hellfire Mongrel, Pull from Tomorrow, Wheel of Fate, Rise of the Dark Realms, Words of Waste, Oppression.
Hc_Clan on A Nightmare to Remember (Nicol Bolas, the Ravager)
6 years ago
Hey Addicted2Edh, thanks for your feedback, I'm glad you like the deck. So I used to include Rackling but it got cut because I thought 10 instances of the effect was sufficient. I may consider putting it back in but I prefer non-creature sources for this effect whenever possible and saw Rackling as the weakest of the creatures when compared to Hellfire Mongrel, Lavaborn Muse and Nezumi Shortfang. However, there is a chance that it may be put back in eventually.
Also Paupers' Cage was not included because it only targets a single opponent, just a thing to keep in mind.
Cooperlogan on A Nightmare to Remember (Nicol Bolas, the Ravager)
6 years ago
If you enjoy the "Rack" theme, you should consider running Hellfire Mongrel. Because redundancy in commander is great.
Cooperlogan on Crosis - discard fun
6 years ago
Crosis is one of my favorite Generals. He is my main Commamder deck, so I may have a point of advice if you want it. If you want to make the most out of the discarding you have in your deck, and Crosis's ability for that matter, Rackling, Hellfire Mongrel, The Rack, Lavaborn Muse, Wheel of Torture, and Quest for the Nihil Stone are all great cards for capitalizing on mass discard, which this deck is wholly capable of. "Wheel" effects are also great to have in this deck, as sometimes your hand and/or field is full of discard effects, but your opponent has no hand left. I see you already have Windfall, so maybe a few more with the same effect. Dragon Mage, Wheel of Fate, Jace's Archivist, Reforge the Soul, and Magus of the Wheel are all cards capable of this effect. Hope this helps!
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