Soul of New Phyrexia
Artifact Creature — Avatar
: Permanents you control gain indestructible until end of turn.
, Exile Soul of New Phyrexia from your graveyard: Permanents you control gain indestructible until end of turn.
|Have (2)||Redbeard09 , CantCrash|
Combos Browse all
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Latest Decks as Commander
Soul of New Phyrexia Discussion
1 month ago
Sorry for the late response, I have some family over for mother's day.
First, I'd like to say that I'm by no means an expert, and even if I was, I'd tell you to disregard my advice if it ever advises the removal of pet cards, shifts the deck towards a style you don't prefer, or otherwise contradicts your goals in any way. I can only ever speak from my own experiences, and yours can and should be different. Generally speaking, creatures that cost a lot of mana and are easy to remove tend to be weaker than those that cost less and/or have some built in protection or other added value. The ability to dodge removal like Vraska's Contempt and Teferi, Hero of Dominaria is what let Carnage Tyrant warp an entire format while Ghalta, Primal Hunger really did not. The fact that you're considering 3 cards that grant hexproof or indestructible implies that removal is a serious issue in your meta, and after looking at the blue and orzhov decks, I would agree. This does mean that Xenagos, God of Revels is better than Ghalta since it packs its own protection. My suggestion to cut him comes from two different factors. One is that he's just shy of the Fierce Empath CMC requirement and the other is that he doesn't grant haste to all creatures simultaneously. I don't think he's bad though, and I particularly like him with annihilator Eldrazi. Still, if I resolve a Surge, I'd really like to win the game that turn, and an 18/18 haste alone can be shut down for a single mana. Going wide makes it harder for your opponents to answer your threats both because board wipes tend to be sorcery speed and because they typically get played in the main less than single-target removal anyway. This is why you see cards like Pathbreaker Ibex and Craterhoof Behemoth getting so expensive while their single-target counterparts fall behind. All that aside, I do like Soul of New Phyrexia and Archetype of Endurance for decks like this. If you're worried about not giving your opponents enough answers, just go with the Soul since it doesn't stop targeted exile.
If you're looking to play casually online, you could try something like Untap.in (free in-browser), Cockatrice (free download), or Tabletop Simulator (payed download with many other games). If you have a way to set up a webcam to record your board, you could also try to arrange a paper game on Discord or the like. Or, if you don't mind dropping money on digital cards, MTGO is an option.
1 month ago
But yea I agree that he doesn't work as well with the other Planeswalkers in the deck. The two Kiora, Behemoth Beckoner have actually been very useful even though there is no + ability. I can get it out turn two most times with arbor elf or utopia sprawl and by then it doesn't die as easily because I'm already building an army and able to draw more cards. It also doesn't make me a target like how other Planeswalkers do so that's nice. I also was thinking, out of all of the creatures Heroes' Bane isn't quite as good as the others because of the high mana cost. Its probably better to replace with another piper, toski, or ruric, which has been a surprisingly good counter to noncreature decks. Only issue with ruric so far is that it can be deathtouch blocked pretty easily. Even still that getting rid of a threat so not too bad but not as good as the other two. It would be sad for me to get rid of the ghalta - xenagos combo because that was kind of the inspiration for the whole deck... I'm not exactly sure what about them sticks out as not good as the rest of the deck (can you explain further) but you are the expert here haha. I even had two xenagos because its just a killer to be able to have any creature have double power and haste but I could get rid of one of them for toski or even ant queen. At this point though I feel pretty good about this deck, just small adjustments. A few last cards I was looking at which I feel may make the deck more competitive is Soul of New Phyrexia , Archetype of Endurance or Privileged Position . The former I think is my favorite because while yes the ability costs 5, I normally have that to spare, and if it protects the land or the enchantment making it produce tons, ill take that hit any day. Added bonus is it can be tutored by fierce empath. Arhetype is nice because there is no mana cost for the ability but it only covers creatures and I'm more worried about protecting the lands and enchantments. Privileged position covers everything which is nice...except itself, so basically it just becomes a target for enchantment removal rather than overgrowth (also too much $$). Let me know about my analysis of these but my hearts telling me Soul of New Phyrexia is the way to go. Either way I feel like my friends would get mad at me for using any of these because its kinda the only hole that I can see right now and were all still trying to have a good time but if I want to play outside of my friend group I would want my best chance to win. I was also wondering what is a good way to just play more people. Is there a way to play online with the cards you have IRL somehow? or would I have to seek out live events near me?
1 month ago
It is true that the deathtouch package will be worse in multiplayer games since you have more threats to deal with. I think siding into a bigger ramp package would be a good idea. I would caution though that it's important to add in more mana dorks or ramp spells to keep pace with any new bombs you include or you'll find yourself mana screwed a lot of the time.
I went ahead and added my creature-based commander deck so I could link it for reference. It was built from a casual 60-card skeleton that's quite similar to your deck, so some of the ramp cards I've had success with over the years might do well here too.
deck: Predator's Toolkit
Prowling Serpopard or Destiny Spinner could be useful tech if counters are flying around left and right. Vigor is definitely strong against board stalls, and I like Archetype of Endurance against a lot of common removal. Somberwald Sage and Elvish Piper would probably be my first picks for dropping haymakers early without much other support. Yeva, Nature's Herald and Seedborn Muse are particularly disgusting in multiplayer since you essentially play on every turn. Some final bombs I love are Whiptongue Hydra for flyers, Polukranos, World Eater for other creatures, and Sylvan Primordial for most anything else.
For your existing ideas, I think Worldspine Wurm is good if your games go long enough to cast it while Tempt with Discovery is good if you don't have opponents who greatly benefit from the mana. I'm still iffy on Lumberknot in a deck not based around token sacrifice, and I'd probably just run Dungrove Elder if you need a midrange hexproof creature. Hydra's Growth is very good with additional +1/+1 synergy, Kazandu Tuskcaller needs more token synergy, and Strixhaven Stadium feels optimistic in multiplayer. For the bigger cards, I think Vigor , Soul of New Phyrexia , Toski, Bearer of Secrets , Verdant Sun's Avatar , and Vivien Reid are all playable. Myojin of Life's Web needs some way to refill the hand or its ability will never do anything that impactful. Impervious Greatwurm is the weakest option since it gets completely stuffed by chump blockers. I used Connive / Concoct to reanimate it in standard and still found it to be too slow. If you had a Warstorm Surge or something, maybe it'd be a different story...
3 months ago
Hey, I ran a deck like this in standard, so a couple of things: 1) Walking Ballista is banned in pioneer, not sure why the site didn't flag your deck and
3) I used to run Setessan Tactics as my board wipe as getting the extra green to strive each time was not a hard thing to do at all, most of the time my entire board fights your board. I also ran Soul of New Phyrexia . I didn't have blue but was about to add it and put in Kruphix, God of Horizons . I had Nylea, God of the Hunt and Hydra Broodmaster . That guy was insane. I also used Karametra's Acolyte . Can't recall what else I had as this was years ago and I don't have the list. They added a ton of cards since then and Pioneer has a large card pool anyway. Good Luck
5 months ago
- Despark is a good card but some counter synergy.
5 months ago
I feel like unless you are confident that you are going to maintain a hand of more than 7 then maybe consider swapping out Spellbook might be a good idea
Not sure how useful Patron of the Orochi will be especially being at such a high cmc
Reforge the Soul only triggers the miracle cost if it is the card you draw for turn so you would have to pay the full CMC if you drew into it from a wheel. Thus, could save a few bucks by swapping it out for a different wheel card.
Nadir Kraken might not pull that much weight since you're theoretically going to be creating a ton of snakes and drawing a bunch of cards. Plus I'm not sure if you'll end up wanting to spend the mana to add the +1 counter and make a tentacle
Bag of Holding $0.35 instead of losing all of your cards to wheels, you can actually get them back later lol
Second Harvest $1.29 2GG to double all your creature tokens... could be useful? could also just do with another wheel lol
Soul of New Phyrexia $4 Might be a lot of mana to run but if you have ashnod's alter out then you should have no issue sacking three tokens to give everything indestructible. Just one more board wipe protection
Rhythm of the Wild $3 can either give them haste or make them a lil bit bigger
Ogre Battledriver $0.6 buffs snakes upon ETB and gives them haste; if this is already out and you wheel...OOF
Horizon Chimera $0.25 padding your life total isn't a bad idea; granted you are likely going to be aggressive affff
Geier Reach Sanitarium $2.5 Might not be worth it but having a little something-something on a land is hard to deal with and could help in a pinch
Dragon Mage $0.25
Minds Aglow $2.5
Burning Inquiry $1 One red mana to get 9 snake bois and might get some good stuff out of someone else's hand
Game Plan $0.39 Heftier side of things at 6 CMC but everyone draws 7 instead of perhaps the same amount they discarded. Plus everyone refills their library so any graveyard shenanigans gets shut down and you don't risk milling yourself for a little bit longer
7 months ago
NoSoyYucateco: Hey, thanks for all the great input! I was just having a conversation with a friend today about cutting down to 37 lands by removing a basic and putting in another creature for the slot anyway! And you're right, War's Toll needs to be in the deck.
I think the reason I slotted in higher end cmc spells is because my commander has ramp inherently built in, and usually I find the deck is able to hit 8-9 cmc by turn 5, so I thought, why not up my big bomb counts with the aim of winning sooner? However, I do feel that lurking predators and guardian project with the low creature count aren't really getting me as much value as War's Toll or Return of the Wildspeaker can, so I made those changes too!
I'm going to try the Heroic Intervention in for Soul of New Phyrexia change, because earlier today I ran into a situation where Soul was in my hand, but it took me two turns to get it out and then set it up so that I had indestructible online for my permanents and by that time I had already lost some permanents that I wanted. I guess I just like the repeatable aspect of its ability coupled with the fact that it's a way to dump mana if I need it.