Manaforge Cinder

Creature — Elemental Shaman

(1): Add (Black) or (Red) to your mana pool. Play this ability no more than three times each turn.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pauper	Legal
Pauper Duel Commander	Legal
Pauper EDH	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (31)

DreadKhan on "The High Priestess of Helgrind"

7 months ago

I'm going to assume that you don't really want suggestions for anything to pricey, if this is wrong I can offer some different suggestions.

I could be wrong, but I've always felt like Lyzolda really likes low to the ground creatures that are both Red and Black, here are a few that seem worth a look. Rakdos Cackler and Footlight Fiend are 1 drops that are Red/Black. There is also Manaforge Cinder, which can help fix your mana. I second adding Anathemancer, it seems like a great fit here. Charforger might be interesting, it makes a token and has a possibly useful effect. I'm not sure if you often go through 5 creatures in a turn, if you can Lagomos, Hand of Hatred is a neat tutor that makes fodder each turn. Mahadi, Emporium Master seems really good in here. It might be too slow to matter, but Pyre Zombie is a recursive Black/Red creature. Shambling Remains can come back one time.

Tor Wauki the Younger seems like it has good synergy, offering a pinger that improves non-combat damage. Another big card that probably would do some work in here is Rite of the Raging Storm, this is a favorite card of mine for budget decks, anyone who can't reliably block the 5/1s will get massacred, and you get free fodder if the tokens aren't worth swinging with.

Hope something there works out for you, I had some ideas that I had to cut because of Obosh, but I think Obosh is probably worth the tradeoff.

Madcookie on Every -sexy- card art

1 year ago

I was making a similar artwork list and stumbled upon yours. It's very good and I found some great additions. I'd like to suggest some other cards I've found myself:

Wakedancer, Bloodbond Vampire, Asylum Visitor, Guul Draz Vampire, Stream of Unconsciousness, Beguiler of Wills, Nin, the Pain Artist, Oriss, Samite Guardian, Cursebreak, Ruthless Cullblade and Manaforge Cinder

Cheers!

dreadswolf on Lyzolda's Bloody Sunday

1 year ago

I took out Ravenous Demon  ^Flip, Scroll of Griselbrand, and Smoldering Crater, and added in Manaforge Cinder, Rakdos Cackler, and Footlight Fiend. I think this will improve the deck. Thanks for the advice!

dreadswolf on Lyzolda's Bloody Sunday

1 year ago

I found my Rite of the Raging Storm and popped it in there! I am contemplating replacing the high CMC demons with cheap red creatures to maximize my ability to ping using Lyzolda's sacrifice-a-red-creature ability. I do really like the suggestion to add Rakdos Cackler, Manaforge Cinder, and Footlight Fiend which are all both red and black so they can ping and draw at the same time.

DreadKhan on Lyzolda's Bloody Sunday

1 year ago

Basilisk Collar seems like it'd be pretty good with Lyzolda, she can then remove target creature by sacrificing any red creature (and you gain 2 life). Note 100% on this, but I really like Mask of Griselbrand in a deck that has creatures dying regularly. Mask is really, really good with Rite of the Raging Storm, which was reprinted recently and is amazing value in most metas, on top of which you can just sacrifice the Elemental to Lyzolda before it dies, too bad it's not also Black!

I wouldn't hesitate to run either Ashes to Ashes or Reckless Spite over something like Assassinate. I also would think about Chaos Warp to deal with any permanent that can be targeted.

Not 100% if they're worth it, but Rakdos Cackler, Manaforge Cinder and Footlight Fiend are each small bodies that offer you some utility on a 1 drop while also offering you 1 drops that are both Red and Black.

Not sure if you run into a lot of problematic artifacts, but Viashino Heretic seems really funny with Obosh and some high MV artifacts.

It's pretty pricey, but I'm not sure if there are many better fits for this deck than Ophiomancer, 2 mana to draw an extra card on each player's turn isn't bad value, and you still can block with the 1/1 Deathtouch if necessary (it mostly deters people in my experience). There is also Ogre Slumlord that makes 1/1 Deathtouch tokens, but you need to be killing other people's creatures to make it truly work, though just getting a Rat whenever you sacrifice one of your non-tokens might be good enough.

Very fun Commander IMHO, and always neat to see someone bother with a Companion, pinging is strong enough to be interesting without being obnoxious, and getting built in card draw seems really strong.

abbatromebone on Rakdos Sligh Beats - RakdosDeckWins..

2 years ago

• Everlasting Torment is good in your colors
• rakdos lord of riots reduces the cost of exactly 3 cards in your deck theres probably better ways to use that card slot
• Here are some creatures to consider: Cryptborn Horror, Fulminator Mage, Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger, Manaforge Cinder.
• Bedevil could also be a nice SB card

Tzefick on Zirconia, the Prismatic Palace

3 years ago

I'd like to throw in Joiner Adept in tribute to the whole: Green is the one who fixes your mana on a large scale with the full palette.

I really don't think this effect should be on a land card. Drawback or no drawback, fixing on a large scale is not something every color can do. Many colors (mostly in the older days) have ways to funnel mana into their own colors; Bog Initiate, Farrelite Priest, Manaforge Cinder. Blue have had a lot of ways to change their (or others') lands into a different land type all together, like on Realmwright, but not the full palette.

skibulk on Liliana's Solid Waste

4 years ago

Shred Memory could possibly replace Faithless Looting . Shreds guarantee that you'll get your Waste Not. Lootings reduce your hand size by 1 (they don't replace themselves) and tend to weaken your draw power with Dark Deals. They also mill you faster. Mid to late game, you can use Shreds to fetch Liliana's Caress . Seething Song might be an interesting alternative to Manaforge Cinder . It would still help with the red mana issue, while also creating more opportunity to cast Reforge the Soul in the early game.