Cao Cao, Lord of Wei
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Cao Cao, Lord of Wei

Legendary Creature — Human Soldier

: Target opponent discards two cards. Play this ability only during your turn, before attackers are declared.

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smilodex on Best Commanders in EDH [Tier List] Part 1

1 year ago

@joe_mama_joe: Thanks for the kind words. So I'll try to explain our choice here:

Cao Cao, Lord of Wei isn't rated that high, he's just a middle of the road commander, but he can quickly wreak havoc along with untappers, Waste Not or Tergrid, God of Fright  Flip. Black has also access to all the good tutors, removal and ritual ramp.

Idoneity on Buh!

3 years ago

Ah, discard. A field I know well.

I come bearing suggestions.

There are many fantastic discard engines that many do not know exist. Anvil of Bogardan is a favourite of mi... Wait, you have that one.

Well, Delirium Skeins is... Darn that Maybeboard.

I see you to be one of those players who digs deep, which is lovely. From the most vast of options broods the most fruitful of strategies. I do have my own discard list, built under Chainer, Dementia Master , which was my very first deck.

Unfortunately, you have all of my discard recommendations accommodated somewhere in this list, thus I must proffer my mono-Black choices. These are a little expensive, but they are what I have to offer.

Given the fact that you are both stealing permanents and forcing discard, I believe this to mean that you do not mind rude cards. Hence, Contamination . You have probably heard of this, but here it is again.

Hellfire is one of my favourite cards of all time, acting as a Cyclonic Rift that hurts your both life total and your wallet. I have died multiple times whilst casting this spell, but the artwork is great.

I feel as if a Dark Ritual to power out Tergrid  Flip would be quite detrimental to your opponents. It enacts your engine early whilst being quite the powerful spell by itself.

Snuff Out surprises a fair number of people, for being without mana typically entails being without interaction.

A Lake of the Dead is one of the very best cards in my Chainer list, as it brings a metric ton of mana to the table. It may cost a swamp each activation, but it is well worth the toll.

The most obscure card I run in my discard deck is Cao Cao, Lord of Wei . He is terrible, slow, and certainly exists.

Care to double the price of your deck? Well, Chains of Mephistopholes has you covered. It denies card draw like a Hullbreacher and offers fuel for the commander  Flip. People do not typically mind proxies, if you would dare venture that route.

TLDR: I commend you for your card-digging adventures, for it takes patience to read all of the possible options for a commander deck, and I did my best in terms of suggestions.

Best of luck, and farewell.

Here is my own list, if you care: Let the Nightmare Go On..

RiotRunner789 on Discard themed deck

3 years ago

I use Oloro for my mono black discard. The lifegain in the command zone helps to offset some of the hate that discard brings.

Rakdos will probably give you the most power. I'm not a fan of Anje since she simply encourages self discard and rummaging to a combo but until Kroxa, there were 0 rakdos commanders that care about opponents discarding. Kroxa would be the best rakdos in my opinion. Why self discard when you'd rather have everyone discard?

Mono black gives Cao Cao, Lord of Wei. But he tends to be slow and by the time you activate him turn 6, you should have everyone hellbent anyway. Another good option is Haunt of the Hightower. He's expensive but has a potentially huge payoff. Lastly, mono black has the new Tinybones. Though, I would wait until more jumpstart reprints so his price can drop.

Nemesis on Konrad

4 years ago

The Cauldron of Eternity

Phyresis

Mausoleum Secrets

Liliana's Indignation

Delirium Skeins

Sanitarium Skeleton

Corpse Augur

Carrion Feeder

Songs of the Damned

Cao Cao, Lord of Wei

Grafted Exoskeleton

KayneMarco on Nath the Discard King

5 years ago

Here’s a few ideas for you to kick around that would really add to the strong discard theme:

KayneMarco on Nath, Gilt-Leaf Discard

5 years ago

Here’s a few cards to consider:

These two cards are iffy but something to think about.

KayneMarco on This Card: Nath

5 years ago

Since you went full discard theme got a few possible additions for ya.

The mind slash would work great because of the token production you have.

KayneMarco on Zur Discard Enchantments

5 years ago

A few possible additions that would be good in this deck are:

I know you don’t have much for creatures to feed mind slash if you like it but there are plenty of token producing enchantments in esper colors that can be Zured out that do make lots of tokens to feed it.

There’s a lot more I could suggest but won’t for now. I absolutely do love the direction you’re taking this Zur deck though. Very original. +1 from me.

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