Life Steal (budget)
Modern
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Recent Updates —April 9, 2013
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Rearrangement 3 -- 2013-04-05
-2 Transguild Promenade
+2 Plains
+4 Heroes Remembered added to the MaybeBoard since I'm not sure how to incorporate it yet
Thanks to KrazyCaley
Rearrangement 4 -- 2013-04-05
-3 Angel's Mercy
-2 Pacifism
-2 Orzhov Keyrune
+3 Rest for the Weary
+3 Lingering Souls
+1 Cathedral Sanctifier
Thanks to Xindlepete and FortFade
Rearrangement 5 -- 2013-04-08
-3 Lingering Souls
+3 Mentor of the Meek
Thanks to buffy and user:w999
Rearrangement 6 -- 2013-04-09
Rearrangement 7 -- 2013-04-09
-2 Cathedral Sanctifier
-3 Vampire Nighthawk
+3x Ajani's Pridemate
+2x Gift of Orzhova
Thanks to Scumgrief, Xindlepete, ducttapedeckbox and user:w999
Xindlepete says... #2
Wow dude, no kidding you changed it! Even switched from standard to modern. Haha. Looks good though. If you're looking into token production for triggering the Soul Warden and Soul's Attendant , then find room for Lingering Souls , Doomed Traveler , and Growing Ranks . That way you have a few spells to help get those initial tokens, and Growing Ranks to trigger the "soul sisters" every turn.
I also think you should drop Angel's Mercy for Rest for the Weary . Half the cost, and almost every time you cast it will be with landfall, meaning you net 1 additional life. Probably swap Cathedral Sanctifier for the Doomed Traveler if you go the token route, swap 1x Exquisite Blood and 1x Orzhov Keyrune for 2x Growing Ranks , and swap 1x Orzhov Keyrune and 2x Pacifism for 3x Lingering Souls . You shouldn't worry too much about stopping creatures from attacking with all your lifegain, but you want to keep Murder around for those game altering creatures and wincons your opponents play.
One more thing, since this is now a modern deck, drop Transguild Promenade . Terrible, terrible land. With Ancient Ziggurat at about $3 and Exotic Orchard at about $1.50, its not too much money to get something better.
April 5, 2013 5:07 a.m.
Rest for the Weary is a freakishly AWESOME idea! I'm definitely doing that. as for the tokens, I wanna see how this works before making another large change so I'll look at that later tonight. Thanks heaps!
April 5, 2013 5:15 a.m.
Xindlepete says... #4
Haha, well I'm no KrazyCaley, but sometimes I do know what I'm talking about! Glad to help out. Don't forget to make that change for BOTH "Life Steal" decks.
April 5, 2013 5:19 a.m.
I'm not sure about Cathedral Sanctifier for the Doomed Traveler since Cathedral Sanctifier is a very fast way of gaining life without needing the 'Soul Sisters'. Kind of like a back up. But maybe Doomed Traveler could be more affective so I'm not sure.
April 5, 2013 5:29 a.m.
Xindlepete says... #6
Only make that switch if you are opting into the token production. Cathedral Sanctifier is great the way the deck is now, but with token production Doomed Traveler would be more useful. Sorry if that wasn't quite clear in the earlier post. It's just that for one card you can get two triggers off of any "soul sisters" on the field, and he gives you a token for the Growing Ranks to target.
April 5, 2013 5:35 a.m.
The tokens seem more affective but a bit slower so I'll trial this a few times and then I might make the changes.
April 5, 2013 5:42 a.m.
What do you think of replacing Vampire Nighthawk with Doomed Traveler ? It wont help me with the non-budget version though.
April 5, 2013 5:45 a.m.
I didn't bother with Growing Ranks because I don't have enough token generation to make it useful. My main problem now is that after the first few turns I'm going to be top-decking so I need a good draw mechanic. Maybe a consistent one.
April 5, 2013 9:26 a.m.
Not sure if this has been suggested, but to prevent you from topdecking, Mentor of the Meek would be nice.
April 5, 2013 10:20 a.m.
buffy took the words right out of my mouth. Mentor of the Meek is an excellent card for white draw, especially with the creatures you're running.
April 5, 2013 11:53 a.m.
What do you think i should remove to make room? All these cards seem important now
April 5, 2013 12:06 p.m.
MTG_Player says... #13
add in another Lingering Souls take out the three Exquisite Blood for something like Sanguine Blood or Luminarch Ascension
April 5, 2013 1:15 p.m.
ducttapedeckbox says... #14
Like the new colors, Cyrrus!
Sanguine Bond could be very useful, even though it's a more expensive version of the Guildmage's second ability. I also second the addition of Mentor of the Meek .
One of my favorite cards, Divinity of Pride , is a possibility for the non-budget version of the deck.
Some other cards off the top of my head include Divine Congregation , Gift of Orzhova , and Transcendent Master (again, a questionable price-based card).
Let us know what you might want to add so we can help make the changes!
April 5, 2013 2:46 p.m.
@ ducttapedeckbox and Xindlepete
haha thanks. I'll be sticking around so I thought I might as well upgrade. The attention grabbing name and extra deckcycles would help heaps so the sooner the better.April 6, 2013 9:32 a.m.
Xindlepete says... #16
Bah! Give me the challenge, I say! Relish in victory all the more! :D
April 6, 2013 9:41 a.m.
@ Xindlepete, ducttapedeckbox, KrazyCaley, buffy, Leafs_suck, MTG_Player, Scumgrief, dbrannon, FortFade and anyone else.
I've added Sanguine Bond to the non-budget version already but it doesn't really belong in this one at nearly $20 a card. Maybe when the price drops, if ever.
Luminarch Ascension seems slow and conditional so it might not be worth it as far as I can see. My main weakness would be board wipes like Killing Wave but I don't come across them often.
Divine Congregation
would be great for 'blackmail' stalling the opponent but I'm not sure that I need it yet so maybe a sideboard card.
I see now that Mentor of the Meek
or something similar is essential.
1 more Lingering Souls
could be useful but maybe not essential unless I take Xindlepete's advice and go the token path with Growing Ranks
. The reason I didn't take Ranks is because I don't have the token generation to make it essential so I left room for other things.
And according to KrazyCaley I still need to add 2 more lands for a deck of this speed which I definitely agree with.
I'm not sure taking out exquisite blood is the best idea since it puts me in an infinite loop win condition with Vizkopa Guildmage
// Sanguine Bond
, is very affective with Chalice of Death
Flip
and is still great with any other amount of damage I can do.
April 6, 2013 9:46 a.m.
Xindlepete says... #18
The more I read through everybody else's suggestions, the more I realize that looking into the token production isn't going to yield the best results. So keep your 3x Lingering Souls and forget everything else I mentioned earlier. :P Sorry to waste our time.
For the Mentor of the Meek , I think drop 1x Exquisite Blood , 1x Cathedral Sanctifier , and 1x Chalice of Life Flip . That opens you up for 3x Mentor of the Meek , and you only pull one creature out for that exchange. The "soul sisters" are too important to lose any of, and you probably don't want to drop any more Vampire Nighthawk or Vizkopa Guildmage . I know you'll probably grit your teeth about losing a Chalice of Life Flip , but I think 3 is still plenty. :P
April 6, 2013 10 a.m.
As amazing as Vampire Nighthawk is (by far my favourite card, EVER!) I don't think it is as essential in this particular deck. Then again it is my only creature that can stand a chance against, well, any other. All my 1CMC creatures will get owned by almost everything else if it comes to it. So I could drop 1x Vampire Nighthawk instead of 1x Chalice of Life Flip since the chalice is my quick win focus. I'm not really sure because in my other deck, RB Vampires "Bleigh!", I find that 3x Lightning Greaves don't have a good enough draw chance. Bit concerned that 3x Chalice of Life Flip will have the same affect.
April 6, 2013 10:30 a.m.
It looks like the deck mechanic for this is sound, but you are lacking the "finishing blow" that would be required to make this deck deadly. I ran a White/Green Elf deck that had a huge life-gain strategy and I suffered the same problem.
My advice would be to throw in cheap cards that have huge effects for when you gain life. Ajani's Pridemate would be a fantastic card to include, and it looks like you have it on your Maybe Board. I would keep the Vampire Nighthawk , and reduce all of the creatures that you have four copies of down to three; that will give you room to include four Ajani's Pridemate cards.
For card draw mechanics, Mentor of the Meek could be a way to go, since most of your creatures are low-power. Due Respect is a cheap way to draw a card and screw over your opponent on their turn, but it is a one-shot. Survival Cache fits the life-gain theme AND gets you a card, as long as you have more life than your opponent (plus the Rebound is nice). For Black cards that have the draw ability, I would go with either Altar's Reap or Sign in Blood .
April 6, 2013 11:27 a.m.
yeh the non-budged version of this deck has a few more win conditions. It is no where near finished but here is the link Life Steal. In this deck I include Serra Ascendant which basically does the same job as Ajani's Pridemate , to some extent.
I think the only 4x creature I can reduce would be Cathedral Sanctifier but even then that card does speed up my life gain. I guess my main win condition for this deck as it stands is the Chalice of Death Flip or the Vizkopa Guildmage + Exquisite Blood .Survival Cache and Due Respect could be ok but Mentor of the Meek seems a little more permanent.April 6, 2013 11:34 a.m.
or even just summoning a swarm of cheap 1/1 creatures...
April 6, 2013 11:36 a.m.
i was wondering when Ajani's Pridemate was going to come up. its very effective when your using the soul sisters, but it also needs someway of getting through. you could add Gift of Orzhova for attacking or blocking purposes. just to get your own big guy to keep your opponent cautious. some other cards to think about are Life Burst (better than Rest for the Weary if you have 4) and Congregate . its a little different from Divine Congregation but the main point is that it includes all creatures on the battlefield
April 7, 2013 11:01 a.m.
Thanks w999
Ajani's Pridemate could be a replacement for Vampire Nighthawk but i'm still not fond of it yet. Need a bit more convincing. And with Gift of Orzhova I'm not really sure I have the room. I'm already struggling to figure out how to include my draw mechanic.
Life Burst seems better in the long run but Rest for the Weary is faster. by turn 2 Rest for the Weary could have given me 8 life and have me a lot closer to flipping the chalice. Also, Life Burst isn't legal in modern. Maybe I could change to casual if needed.
Congregate is definitely better than Divine Congregation since it is instant speed and the same cost. But I have the same problem as with the Pridemate. also not sure its needed with the life gain I already have. I can't think of anything less important that it could replace.
April 7, 2013 11:51 a.m.
all true reasons. maybe remove Lingering Souls ? if you're drawing that many cards, you should be able to draw into more creatures. it also prevents your mana curve from getting too wacky
KrazyCaley says... #1
As with the other deck, one or two more lands, get rid of Transguild Promenade and replace it with duals if you can, or basics if you have to, and consider Heroes Remembered .
April 5, 2013 4:44 a.m.