Ib Halfheart, Goblin Sac-tician [PRIMER]
Commander / EDH
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400 Upvote Party: Ib Drops His Drawers! —March 14, 2018
Ib has cleared another historic milestone, so in celebration he is going to drop his drawers!
And by that, we mean his draw spells. Ib is trying a different tactic this time around, and will be running strong symmetrical draw spells. If all goes according to plan, the whole table gets fuel, but being a low-to-the-ground mono-color deck means we are situated to take the most advantage of that draw. Gone are the days of feeling one turn away from winning, or winning by the skin of our teeth, instead of by leaps and bounds.
When Kim Jong Il called up Ib and spoiled M25 for him, Ib was ecstatic. Imperial Recruiter is finally getting a desperately needed reprint, and Ib immediately set out to get him onboard.
We've also added some more removal, more haste, more ramp, and brought in some more wide-eyed Goblins looking to make their mark (literally) on the battlefield.
Stay tuned for more updates from Ib Halfheart, the inspiration for the book "Conan The Barbarian" and the movie "Braveheart".
All Hail!!!
Liquidbeaver says... #2
KillJoyChief: It is a ton of fun to play!
I spent a lot of time working on finding a balance of buffs that didn't make me leery of sacrificing Goblins. I think the biggest things that helped with that was Raid Bombardment and Shared Animosity. Goblin Chieftain and Goblin King do a good job of making a few tokens feel more impactful, but Bombardment and Animosity manage to do it without making them feel indispensable.
I'm really happy with where the deck has ended up, as it is really rare that I don't have a huge impact on every game, even the ones I don't win.
November 28, 2017 3:33 p.m.
Liquidbeaver says... #3
I can't shake the feeling I have that I am short by one or two solid sac outlets for Goblin tokens. I've felt this way since I removed Ashnod's Altar, not that I think bringing it back would help. There have been a few instances where more sac outlets would have increased by chances of drawing one, which makes it easier to shape a Blasphemous Act, Skirk Fire Marshal, or Repercussion into a game winning play.
Looking forward to Dominaria in the hopes that I get something that unintentionally buffs Ib, as I don't think WotC is ever going to do something like that on purpose, haha.
If anyone knows a good sac (creature or permanent) outlet that would tie into the deck well (think Goblin Sledder), please speak up so that Ib can say that it was his idea in the first place and he was just waiting for you to draw inspiration from him!
November 28, 2017 3:40 p.m.
Hey bro Im brand new to magic but I just want you to know this is exactly the type of deck Im looking for. Something unique and has goblins in it, thanks for the guide and the list!
November 29, 2017 12:41 a.m.
I'm curious, have you seen anything out of Ixalan that you'd find helpful to this deck? I didn't see anything but I'm also new to this.
December 3, 2017 12:17 a.m.
Liquidbeaver says... #6
kyeu: Welcome to Magic!
I'm glad you like it! It is definitely a unique deck, but still has a very Gobliny feel to it that I obviously love.
If you haven't already, definitely check out the budget version of this deck that I have listed at the end of the primer. A lot of the stuff in my main deck can be meta specific, or a very expensive card that is only marginally better than another one, so the budget version is a great place to start.
December 4, 2017 4:31 p.m.
Liquidbeaver says... #7
Cyfer: Thanks for the comment!
While Ixalan didn't bring anything that I would use for my regular deck, it did bring quite a few I would consider running in the budget version:
Pillar of Origins - Not that bad of a manarock, the only qualification being, when speed is less important I would rather run a higher landcount and more extra-land effects than I would offloading that to manarocks. Unless of course the meta had land destruction.
Sentinel Totem - Solid choice depending on your meta.
Sorcerous Spyglass - More of a 1v1 EDH card, but still good.
Vanquisher's Banner - This is probably the most promising card in the bunch, and I almost ran it in my regular deck, but there aren't a lot of high CMC cards that make the cut in this deck (part of the reason I don't have a Caged Sun for instance). The budget deck has even more room for creatures, so you can proc the draw more often, and draw is still the biggest issue this deck has, period. I like this card a lot, it just needed to be 1 mana cheaper, or the same CMC but give creatures haste or something.
December 4, 2017 4:48 p.m. Edited.
BogatyrOfMurom says... #8
Wow, that's a very impressive commander deck, check out my Sliver Horde EDH, you will like it :)
December 5, 2017 10:34 a.m.
Hey dude, you said you were looking for good sacrifice cards like Goblin Sledder, there is a card that does the same: Mogg Raider, also you might like Clickslither. =)
December 5, 2017 10:51 a.m.
Liquidbeaver: thanks for the reply, I was also eying Vanquishers Banner from that set (I'm currently running gauntlet of might) and have been thinking about caged sun as well, right now I had extraplanar lens in. I also slotted in Mind's Eye to help with draw but i haven't had a chance to test it yet. I absolutely love In ever since I played him in the Goblins vs Elves duel deck, I'm glad you've put in a ton of work and found a lot of stuff I wouldn't even have considered (as a recently returned and relatively inexperienced magic user). Keep up the good work! I'll be checking in here for discussion relatively regularly whenever I can get my group back together after the holidays.
December 5, 2017 11:01 a.m.
Quite frankly I just don't like Siege-Gang Commander. Is there something I'm missing that makes him desirable past putting a few tokens down? His ability is kind of expensive i feel like.
December 5, 2017 11:11 a.m.
Liquidbeaver says... #13
mlequesne: That is really interesting.... I had always included Sledder over Raider because it was half the cost, but I had never seen the other printing before. I am seriously going to look into that, thank you!
December 5, 2017 11:28 a.m.
Liquidbeaver says... #14
Cyfer: In the same realm of Mind's Eye there is also Farsight Mask which you will probably like. The pseudo-protection is nice, and also the draw is for each time you take damage, so if you get attacked with 10 tokens, you draw 10 cards.
December 5, 2017 11:38 a.m.
Liquidbeaver says... #15
Cyfer: Siege-Gang Commander has a slot in my deck only because he is pretty good at 2 different things, rather than being amazing at one.
His most direct comparison is Beetleback Chief. They both tie into Purphoros, God of the Forge really well, they both can be copied with Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker, but Siege-Gang is unique in that he has a (heavily) costed sac ability. Because it is an activated ability with a cost, it can be copied with Rings of Brighthearth or Illusionist's Bracers (if you are desperate), and he is not even on the radar when opponent's know you run Purphoros and Impact Tremors. Of the 25+ times I have cast him, I don't think he's ever been the target of spot removal, which just means you get to surprise people later with the last bit of damage to need to finish someone off. The cost of the sac is a lot less noticeable later in the game when you have no cards in hand and nothing to spend the mana on, haha. Admittedly though, I don't use his sac ability much, but it's why he edges out Beetleback Chief for me.
Being able to free-cast him with a Goblin Lackey, Warren Instigator, or a Moggcatcher also helps to justify the include.
I wouldn't call him a game changer in any regard, but he has been a solid play every time I cast him, even just based on the bodies alone. I just make it a habit with all my creatures that, with Ib out, at the worst each one is still worth 4 creature damage during an attack. As you probably already know, this deck snowballs in really awkward ways, and sometimes it just takes a handful of tokens.
December 5, 2017 12:01 p.m. Edited.
Liquidbeaver: thanks for the suggestion, I definitely added Farsight Mask to my sideboard in case I find I'm drawing way more aggro than I normally would be. I can dig your justification for Siege-Gang Commander, it makes sense. He may just be one of the first to bite the dust should I find a better creature. Do you think Anger on top of Urabrask the Hidden is overkill?
December 6, 2017 4:37 a.m.
Liquidbeaver says... #17
Cyfer: I think Anger is definitely welcome, as you can see from my sideboard I am trying to find a spot for one more Haste effect myself.
December 6, 2017 11:27 a.m.
Tristanraid says... #18
Great deck! Ive shown it to my meta. They love it.
December 8, 2017 9:52 a.m.
Liquidbeaver says... #19
Tristanraid: That is awesome to hear! It means a lot to me that you all liked it.
December 8, 2017 3:01 p.m.
Eon_of_Chicanery says... #20
Love the deck! Do you have a particular reason to run Scour from Existence over Spine of Ish Sah? It has great synergy with Goblin Welder.
December 10, 2017 7:19 p.m.
Liquidbeaver says... #21
Eon_of_Chicanery: I added Scour so I would have a colorless permanent exile for some of the big Eldrazi, but more specifically because Red sucks so bad at enchantment removal, which what was giving me the most trouble. I hadn't actually thought about Spine in a long time, and now that I am thinking about it again, having the chance of recasting it multiple times a game is going to be more consistently useful to me than being able to specifically exile something, like in the case of a Blightsteel Colossus, which never really comes up in my playgroup.
I am definitely going to say that is a meta-dependent call, but it just so happens Spine of Ish Sah is a better meta call for me than Scour from Existence is. I am going to switch that before I play next.
Great suggestion!
December 11, 2017 4:53 p.m.
CantaPerMe says... #22
What about Vicious Shadows? Works pretty well with all the sac outlets and can close up games
December 12, 2017 1:54 p.m.
Liquidbeaver says... #23
Pallino: It's hard to argue the strength of Vicious Shadows. It's in the same realm as Boggart Shenanigans, and I think falls to personal preference as to how and when you want to do damage, how well you dodge table hate, and what your meta is like.
Shadows hits a lot harder, and more often, but draws a lot more attention from the entire table, where Shenanigans is more like subtly persuading someone not to wipe your creatures (so they are still free to wipe everyone else's), under the threat of you using all the death triggers against them in retaliation. The fact that you can direct the damage from either card to any player you want is great.
Personally I like keeping my CMC as low as possible to make it easier to rebuild after multiple wipes. The obvious problem with that is that I lack a lot of the higher CMC, more impactful cards (like Shadows), that can be used to end games.
That's definitely a tough choice, but I don't think you can make the "wrong" one in that situation.
December 13, 2017 1:09 p.m.
Liquidbeaver says... #24
Well it took a really long time, but I finally got Skirk Fire Marshal and Basilisk Collar out at the same time the other night. 4 players and 8 creatures hit for total of 120 health gained. Went from probably being the first player to die (Reaper King and Grenzo decks at the table and a Coat of Arms out), to winning the game the turn after with just a few Goblins created by Ib after the wipe.
This deck is never not fun to play. I love it.
December 13, 2017 1:52 p.m.
Liquidbeaver says... #25
Mox Diamond out for Chrome Mox. While the Diamond arguably is better, in this deck where you rely so heavily on basic mountains, and I run so few of them, exiling one has been a death sentence more often than it has been a benefit.
I considered Mox Opal as well, but I think I would be more comfortable with that if I was closer to 25 or so artifacts.
KillJoyChief says... #1
Very fun! And it looks like it completely solves the Ib deck I home brewed's problem which basically makes it to where I don't even want to sac the little goblins since they become so strong
November 28, 2017 3:06 p.m.