Defend the Door
Modern
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Nov. 20, 2012
Dropped both Tree of Redemption, one Fog Bank, one Increasing Ambition, and one Clinging Mists for two more Diabolic Revelation, one Devil's Play, one Elixir of Immortality, and one Cyclonic Rift. Also switched around the lands a bit so I can tutor for a Mountain or two Swamps with Gatecreeper Vine in order to cast Diabolic Revelation and Devil's Play.
Also changed around the Sideboard, dropping one Golgari Charm, all of Naturalize, Grafdigger's Cage, and Trading Post. During playtesting, Naturalize was never doing anything Golgari Charm couldn't do, Grafdigger's Cage hurt me as much as them due to Increasing Ambition, and Trading Post never helped at all. In their place, added three Doorkeepers, two Otherworld Atlas, and two Druid's Deliverance, allowing the deck to sideboard and become a mediocre Turbofog deck, which opponents may not be expecting.
thebeardedshuffler says... #2
Clinging Mists is good when fateful hour triggers, but it costs more than card:Druid's Deliverance. When you need to tutor for the effect you might find every mana counts.
November 10, 2012 11:47 a.m.
@thebeardedshuffler I'd work around that by casting Increasing Ambition from my hand for Clinging Mists , and from the graveyard for Fog . The fact that card:Druid's Deliverance's secondary effect does nothing for me, whereas Clinging Mists could win me the game by stalling for more than a single turn, leads me to prefer the latter.
November 10, 2012 5:33 p.m.
thebeardedshuffler says... #4
True but the secondary effect is a potential boon, whereas the lower mana cost is a consistent one. I think I'd go for the deliverence, but I guess they both do the same job.
November 10, 2012 6:30 p.m.
@helluween What I'd consider the ideal starting hand against most matchups is Arbor Elf , two Gatecreeper Vine s, Axebane Guardian , Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker , one Forest, and one of any land. Turn 1: Forest, Arbor Elf; turn 2: land, Axebane; turn 3: Gatecreeper, land, Gatecreeper, tap Axebane for something if you want; turn 4: land, Nicol Bolas. Proceed to hope they don't just Dreadbore him.
Against Control, it's a bit different. I think I'd prefer to draw both Syncopate s, an Arbor Elf , a Forest, an Island or Hinterland Harbor , a Swamp, and an Increasing Ambition . Play carefully and tutor as soon as it's safe. Save your counters for either their counters on things you care about (mostly just Door or Nicol Bolas, maybe Chromatic Lantern) or their win conditions.
November 12, 2012 10:22 a.m.
@Frozensun07 While it is amusing to go infinite with Galvanic Alchemist , I feel it's unnecessary, because I only need 10 mana and no more. Were I running Increasing Confusion or some such, I would almost certainly have it in the deck list, but that'd add another level of complexity and force me to drop some cards that I need in order to stop my opponents, who would just beat me down while I get the infinite mana set up.
It is also difficult against many matchups to keep that many creatures on the field. I'd need Axebane Guardian , 3 other defenders, and Galvanic Alchemist, and, while this is possible against some matchups, against any sort of control deck I actually tend to just have Axebane out as a distraction, because he's bound to get Oblivion Ring ed or Detention Sphere ed.
November 12, 2012 3:46 p.m.
Frozensun07 says... #9
i see what you mean, very well thought out deck. +1
November 12, 2012 10:35 p.m.
UmbrotheUmbreon says... #10
If only you could work your way to a second Ludevic. Other than that, +1 Love it :)
November 15, 2012 8:17 p.m.
As far as i can tell, it seems to me that Syncopate is primarily used to stop potential opponent's interruption spells. This sounds slightly "noobish" but might i recommend Dispel in place of Syncopate ?
Thoughts?
November 15, 2012 8:43 p.m.
UmbrotheUmbreon says... #12
Dispel is better sideboarded Keiithy. Reason for that is Syncopate doesn't restrict what kind of spell you can counter. All they have to do is play a sorcery spell that can kill your win condition or you, and Dispel can't stop it.
November 15, 2012 9:03 p.m.
@Keiithy I've used the Syncopate s for a bunch of things, including planeswalkers and such. However, I've mostly only added the Dissipate s in the sideboard in to counter other counterspells. I think I will replace them, as well as the card:Faith's Rewards, with Dispel s.
November 15, 2012 9:11 p.m.
I have to admit, I love this and the overall idea. It's fairly easy to build too, which is awesome. I might try this out. +1
November 16, 2012 1:02 a.m.
+1 Door to Nothingness +1 Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker , seriously only having 1x of each will be too easy to remove.
November 16, 2012 3:30 p.m.
I like this, but there's so much more that can be done with this and that makes me sad.
November 16, 2012 4:01 p.m.
@Sniper There are only 2 instant speed artifact removal spells in standard right now, Naturalize and Rakdos Charm . Both are counterable. If I suspect that my opponent may be holding one back, I can easily save the mana for a Syncopate . As for Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker , he has most often simply been used for distracting an opponent or getting rid of a single threat. What I'd actually prefer is at least one alternate win condition in color, because right now, Slaughter Games naming Chromatic Lantern simply wins against me if I don't already have one out. I'm considering Tamiyo, the Moon Sage and Primordial Hydra for that role.
@Belias22 How so? I'm still taking feedback for the deck, so mentioning anything you think can be done would be appreciated.
November 16, 2012 5:07 p.m.
Apparently haven't heard of the following: Ancient Grudge Crushing Vines Natural End Smelt Sundering Growth
November 16, 2012 5:16 p.m.
You've got four different sources of mana, mid game you'll have so much mana, its just a shame not to do something more active with it...Bonfire of the Damned would be an incredible addition with so much mana available.
November 16, 2012 5:23 p.m.
card:Devil's Play might actually be a better choice than Bonfire of the Damned in some situations.
November 17, 2012 4:07 p.m.
@Sniper I should have specified "only 2 instant speed artifact removal spells in standard right now that are seeing any play", but I do admit that I completely forgot about Sundering Growth .
@Belias22 You're right, I could easily throw out a five damage Bonfire of the Damned mid-late game while paying the non-miracle cost, but the issue with that is price. I'd only need one, but it would still set me back $30, which is a lot considering that the most expensive card in the deck now (not including dual lands) is Chromatic Lantern . I'd have the same issue with Tamiyo, the Moon Sage , except that a friend of mine has it, and I'd be able to trade him. card:Devil's Play definitely isn't out of the question, though, and I'd be able to add a single Mountain that I could tutor for with Gatecreeper Vine and use it as an early removal spell, then flash it back later for direct damage.
November 18, 2012 1:17 a.m.
thebeardedshuffler says... #23
There's a lot of potential to sideboard against Slaughter Games . You're in blue/green which is the perfect colour set for Turbofog. Take out door, lantern and add in either Doorkeeper s or Stern Mentor s, etc. It's not perfect, but it's an option.
pelolep says... #1
@thebeardedshuffler Funny, I just ran it today at FNM and won all my aggro matchups. Using the Increasing Ambition s to get any Fog s I needed helped a whole bunch in that regard.
November 10, 2012 2:05 a.m.