Thoughts of Ruin

Sorcery

Each player sacrifices a land for each card in your hand.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (30)

Femme_Fatale on Commander bracket recommendation

3 months ago

It had not been implemented yet as I was asked to try and reduce some of the complexity. I don't think I succeeded.

Tutor:

"search your library for ... card..."
"searches their library for ... card..."
"may search their library for ... card..."
"search target opponent's library for ... card ... you may"
"search target opponent's library for ... card ... that card onto the battlefield under your control"
Exception: Any string that replaces the first elipses that has the words basic, Plains, Forest, Island, Mountain or Swamp.
Exception: Any string that replaces the first elipses that has a period in it.
Exception: Any string that replaces the second elipses that starts with "s named" or " named" or " with the same name"

This should catch instances of multiple cards being tutored. Note the lack of an inclusion of a period at the end for the first three.

All instances of the word "your" can be swapped for "target player" or "each player".

Individual cards: Demonic Consultation, Divining Witch, Emergent Ultimatum, Quiet Speculation, Tunnel Vision

Individual exceptions: AEther Searcher, Boldwyr Heavyweights, Hired Giant

Mass Land Denial:

"sacrifices ... lands"
"return ... lands to their owner's hands."
Exception: If the above ... has "two" or "three" in it for any of them.

"each player ... chooses ... land(s) ... sacrifices the rest."

"lands don't untap"
"players can't untap ... land"
Exception: If the card is instant or sorcery.

All instances of the word "land" dictated as a requirement in the strings above can be swapped for "permanent".

"lands are (land subtype)."

All instances of the word land dictated as a requirement in the strings above can be swapped with "nonbasic land", "Plains", "Forest", "Island", "Mountain" or "Swamp".
All instances of the word "sacrifices" can be swapped for "destroy" or "exile".
All instances of the word "player" can be swapped for "opponent".

A global expection for all Mass Land Denial is made if "nonland" is in any elipses.

Individual cards: Desolation, Equipoise, Hall of Gemstone, Land Equilibrium, Limited Resources, Mana Breach, Mana Vortex, Overburden, Pox, Quicksilver Fountain, Sands of Time, Storm Cauldron, Tangle Wire, Temporal Distortion, Thoughts of Ruin, Wake of Destruction, Ward of Bones, Words of Wind, World Queller

Individual exceptions: Hibernation, Scourglass

Nothing is case sensitive

Femme_Fatale on Commander bracket recommendation

4 months ago

note that the list hasn't been implemented yet. That specific part does hit Magus, Balance and Cataclysm but doesn't hit Razia's Purification, Balancing Act nor Pox. I can add in an additional option for permanents, Pox has unique wording so will have to be manually added.

This is what I have so far.

Mass Land Denial:

"sacrifice ... lands"
"each player sacrifices ... lands"
"return ... lands to their owner's hand"
Exception: If the above ... has "two" or "three" in it for any of them.
Note the requirement for the word land to be plural.

"lands don't untap"
"Players can't play lands"
Exception: If the card is instant or sorcery.

"each player ... chooses ... land(s) ... sacrifices the rest."

"return all lands to their owners' hands"

All instances of the word "land" dictated as a requirement in the strings above can be swapped for "permanent".

"Whenever a player .... that player returns a land they control to its owner's hand."

"lands are (land subtype)."

All instances of the word land dictated as a requirement in all the strings above can be swapped with "nonbasic land", "Plains", "Forest", "Island", "Mountain" or "Swamp".
All instances of the word "sacrifice" can be swapped for "destroy" or "exile".
All instaces of the word "player" can be swapped for "opponent".

A global expection for all Mass Land Denial is made if "nonland" is ever in the textbox.
Individual cards bypass exceptions.

Individual cards: Desolation, Equipoise, Hall of Gemstone, Mana Vortex, Mist of Stagnation, Parallax Tide, Pox, Quicksilver Fountain, Sands of Time, Smokestack, Storm Cauldron, Tangle Wire, Temporal Distortion, Thoughts of Ruin, Words of Wind, World Queller

Femme_Fatale on Commander bracket recommendation

4 months ago

Anything anyone thinks is missing with this?

Tutor:

"Search your library for ... card"
Exception: Tutors that, within the above string, have the words basic, Plains, Forest, Island, Mountain or Swamp.

This should catch instances of multiple cards being tutored.

Individual cards: Demonic Consultation, Divining Witch, Tunnel Vision

Mass Land Denial:

"Destroy/Exile ... lands"
"Each player/opponent sacrifices ... lands"
"Return ... lands to their owner's hand"
Exception: If the above ... is "two" or "three" for any of them.
Note the requirement for the word land to be plural.

"Each player/opponent ... chooses ... land(s) ... sacrifices/destroys/exiles the rest."

"Return all lands/permanents to their owners' hands."

"Whenever a player .... that player returns a land they control to its owner's hand."

"lands don't untap"
"Players can't play lands"
Exception: If the card is instant or sorcery.

All instances of the word land dictated as a requirement in these strings can be swapped with "nonbasic land", "Plains", "Forest", "Island", "Mountain" or "Swamp".
All instances of the word land/lands must not be nonland.

Individual cards: Blood Moon, Desolation, Equipoise, Hall of Gemstone, Mana Vortex, Mist of Stagnation, Parallax Tide, Sands of Time, Storm Cauldron, Tangle Wire, Temporal Distortion, Thoughts of Ruin

edit: quietly adds "Hall of Gemstones" as a synonym to Hall of Gemstone

SufferFromEDHD on Tsabo Tavoc Havoc

11 months ago

I remember Baneslayer hype! That's around the time I started my shift from Legacy into EDH.

An-Zerrin Ruins this is a blue card. Maybe white. How it ended up in red is beyond me. Look thru any non tribal deck you have. Now check out the creatures. I guarantee there is unintentional tribal overlap. Worse case scenario it only locks down one commander. In Rakdos? Worth it.

Bend or Break and Do or Die are just nice niche Invasion rares in solidarity with the commander. Was originally Thoughts of Ruin.

Blessing is a fantastic pauper card but Gift of Doom is forever :) yes it cost more but if Bitterblossom or Nether Spirit are online than Tsabo reaches her final form for 3 colorless.

McDeity on Korvold

2 years ago

To fortify a misery package, Burning Sands, Earthlink, Destructive Flow, Tainted AEther, Desolation, Thoughts of Ruin, and Destructive Force.

GhostChieftain on Jund vs Gruul

4 years ago

Also, I just realized that Rite of Ruin with korvold is make everyone sac 6 permanents and you will draw 6 for 7 mana. Thoughts of Ruin also gets real good with korvold since you will draw a lot.

SueMe on MLD Werewolves

6 years ago

You want to make sure someone isn't playing anything so you can flip your werewolves? Mindslaver .

Also use: Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger , Tectonic Break , Thoughts of Ruin ... I'm getting all of these from EDHREC's top 100 saltiest cards list.

Mick-Tis on Numot's Recurring Prison of Taxes and Regulations

6 years ago

Tectonic Break & Thoughts of Ruin are nice. So is Impending Disaster