You do know that Shefet Monitor only triggers when it itself is cycled right? Also I'm pretty sure Shadow of the Grave is a trap because of the two words "this turn"... this hinders your cycling plan because you have to hold up all of your cycling cards and can't do anything until you have one really cool turn.
April 17, 2017 8:48 p.m.
This deck is awesome! +1. Took a bit to get use to it during playtests but man is it fun to pilot! It kind of feels like I am piloting a standard version of eggs... Only suggestion... sometimes I really wanted a forest when cycling monitor. Maybe throw a single ton basic in there?
April 17, 2017 8:58 p.m.
This combo seems really fun to play. I can't wait to see the look on people's faces when we play STANDARD, I get to 6 mana, draw my entire deck and win by casting two Approaches. I doubt any one of them knows that combo.
I playtested it against Minotaur Aggro and I managed to pull the combo off twice, although one was really lucky (2 hp, 6 mana - I have only 2 cycling cards after drawing 3, fortunately I draw two Viziers and this enables my first Shadow... etc etc). Once again, it seems really fun to play, even if just a few times.
If I get the needed cards after Amonkhet is released, I will probably use this as a fun deck.
April 17, 2017 9:51 p.m.
Yes, I know it only triggers when it itself is cycled. What made you think otherwise? It still generates untapped mana and is amazing. I also know that Shadow of the Grave only returns card cycled "this turn". Why does that matter here? In no way does that hinder my deck's plan of casting New Perspectives and immediately cycling my whole deck. I really don't want to come across as rude, but did you even read the deck description or test the deck before you commented? New Perspectives also draws me 3 cards on etb, so I can definitely cast other spells for utility before I combo out.
Thanks! I'm happy you like the deck. Eggs may be boring to watch, but yea it's fun as hell to play haha. What would adding a Forest do? The purpose of monitor is to generate mana during your combo turn, not really to ramp unless absolutely necessary. Again, I have no problem with advice and ideas, I'm just not sure what the Forest would help with.
Yea this deck is pretty cool imo, and in testing has been able to pull out some pretty clutch wins. Minotaurs is pretty cool too, and a deck I do hope to see at some point. I think this deck is pretty strong, and should be able to pull its weight against even decks with hyper-aggresive starts like vehicles and (in this case) minotaurs haha. Thanks for the compliments!
April 17, 2017 10 p.m.
Nvm you are correct! Sometimes I forget about the untap triggers... the deck is a bit of a learning curve XD
April 17, 2017 10:28 p.m.
Haha no problem mate. The deck takes some practice, but is pretty quick to nail down.
April 17, 2017 10:34 p.m.
Be careful about making #1 Mardu Vehicles one of your goals to beat.
I'm pretty sure that few people will be playing it after the Pro Tour, as it is just too easy to shut down with all the new cards.
I would aim more to beat decks like any of the ones in my 2. Amonkhet folder.
I think a lot of the Pros will be making brews that are Zombie heavy.
April 18, 2017 11:48 a.m.
I know the meta will vastly shift after amonkhet drops (probably apart from sheeli combo), but if this deck can fight above par with the current aggro and combo decks then it hopefully at least stands a chance with the new decks. Most of the decks that seems playable post-akh seem to be aggressive and not run a lot of counters, meaning that this deck should be able to thrive. Thank you for the advice however, and I have yet to test vs any zombie decks, so I'll give that a few shots to test the waters. Any recommended lists I should look at?
April 18, 2017 12:44 p.m.
Oh Hi, btw Scorpy.
Didn't realise you built this deck.
You can use this list to test against: zombie amonkhet
April 18, 2017 1:11 p.m.
You should include a safety valve for the deck like Perpetual Timepiece.
April 18, 2017 2:31 p.m.
By the way add (AKH) to the end of Approach of the Second Sun its not displaying the card to view and rather is linking another deck.
Anyways the deck looks good from the quick glance over I only have right now too look at it, +1.
April 18, 2017 11:42 p.m.
You should be able to win if you have your entire deck in hand so you shouldn't need any safety net.
Ah thanks! It was really annoying me how it kept linking me to a deck haha.
April 18, 2017 11:49 p.m.
I think perpetual timepiece is a nice one of in this deck since it can definitely save you. I just lost against a geier reach sanitarium x)
April 19, 2017 12:55 a.m.
My only problem is that if you run into lost legacy you are screwed. Maybe try to find a second win condition... But I really love this deck because I play jank all the time but this is really good jank. I playtested and super consistent love it!
April 19, 2017 2:35 a.m.
Yea that card kinda blows for me, but usually opponents won't draw their hate cards anyways so I'm hinging on that mostly.
April 19, 2017 12:33 p.m.
Love this idea! Thanks for sharing!
BTW, have you considered adding Sunscorched Desert to stop Saheeli combo with Shefet Monitor?
April 20, 2017 2:09 a.m.
What's going on with ChannelFireball?
Are they complimenting you or putting you down?
It wasn't clear to me without context.
April 20, 2017 12:20 p.m.
Also thanks! Sunscorched Desert is something I looked into earlier, but in the end is just a waste of space. It almost never works or helps since you have a bunch of fogs and counters anyways, and spending a Shefet Monitor can legit cost you the game.
Nah I'm just proud I came up with a sweet deck almost a whole week before a whole team of sweaty pro-players lol.
April 20, 2017 12:26 p.m.
Great idea, but it's definitely weak to aggro, so you really need some sort of sweeper in SB. +1
April 20, 2017 3:36 p.m.
Actually, it's the other way around: This deck has been great vs aggro. Like, absolutely incredible. However, it does struggle vs counterspells, so against control you really need to dedicate most of your SB slots.
April 20, 2017 11:20 p.m.
it doesn't haha. Unless your opponent is really dumb an plays into Censor, you kind of just lose to them. However, people barely play that card, and when they do it is as a one or two of, so the likelihood of them actually drawing it is incredibly low, so that isn't really an issue.
April 23, 2017 8:20 p.m.
lol i've been playing with it for the past couple of hours and it actually is consistently winning on t5 and t6. Lost legacy is giving me trouble tho but other than that, everything looks good. Good deck man! +1 from me
April 23, 2017 11:29 p.m.
This is beyond beautiful if copy cat gets banned ill be switching right into this massive gratz for beating channel fireball to this!
April 23, 2017 11:55 p.m.
Each duel land is around $5 and you run 20, thats 100 dollars right there, not very budget
April 24, 2017 12:09 a.m.
Thanks, that's very nice of you to say. :)
This deck is about $15 apart from the lands, which you can EASILY pick up online each for about $2-4 (depending on the colors). So yes, this deck is indeed budget as you can buy the entire thing for around $70-80.
April 24, 2017 9:15 a.m.
Hi! I've been messing around with a similar list, and I just love the deck!
I get that Hedron Archive ramps faster, but I feel like having access to colored mana when comboing off and mana fixing in the early game is better.
Here's the link to my list if you want to check it out: Cycling Eggs
April 24, 2017 7:17 p.m.
Huh Weirding Wood seems ok. The only issue I see is that it requires green to cast, which can be tricky sometimes. The colored mana is definitely a significant upside. I am very interested about how it has held up in testing, as it also might be good as Wood plays around Dissenter's Deliverance. It feels like I'd have to make some pretty significant manabase changes, but is that sacrifice worth the upside. I'm also not sure how played Natural State will be post-amonkhet, so that may also make me switch these around. Any recommendations from testing?
April 24, 2017 10:19 p.m.
To be honest, I have done little testing besides goldfishing, but this is mainly a goldfish deck so I guess it's fine.
Looking at Amonkhet, I believe Natural State is going to get replaced by Dissenter's Deliverance and By Force in most sideboards. Dissenter's Deliverance is just better in most cases, as there are only a couple enchantments worth hitting in standard right now, especially with Stasis Snare being replaced by Cast Out.
In addition, many are already maindecking Manglehorn since it deals with both Mardu and Saheeli.
Returning to Weirding Wood, the main problem is that you need a 5th land to play New Perspectives. Plus, that land needs to enter untapped. This is partially fixed by playing more basics, which works well with Shefet Monitor.
I think that, even with the necessity for a 5th land, Weirding Wood is better because of all the artifact hate that all decks run now.
April 25, 2017 3:42 a.m.
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This deck is not Standard legal.Highlight illegal cards
|Illegal cards||Approach of the Second Sun, Canyon Slough, Cast Out, Censor, Fetid Pools, Haze of Pollen, Irrigated Farmland, New Perspectives, Scattered Groves, Shadow of the Grave, Shefet Monitor, Sheltered Thicket, Vizier of Tumbling Sands, Dissenter's Deliverance, Faith of the Devoted|
|Folders||AKH Standard, Great decks, 2. Amonkhet, Stupid silly deck, Dino, test, Potential, Standard (AKH) - Misc, Decks, AMK, See all 33|
|Top rank||#2 on 2017-04-24|