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Jeweled Lotus
Artifact
Sacrifice Jeweled Lotus: Add three mana of any one colour. Spend this mana only to cast your commander.
Niko9 on Was it Inevitable that WotC …
3 days ago
To be fair, I think wotc has had pretty good control of commander ever since they started printing straight to commander cards. The amount of things the RC banned or flagged never had anywhere near the impact of wotc introducing cards that were never balanced for play in standard. I mean, there are probably more Doctor Who Doctors than there are commanders banned under the RC. I didn't check the number, but really, maybe?
I guess I just think that the people that printed Jeweled Lotus have way more influence over the commander meta than the people who banned it.
MTGBurgeoning on The Chitter-Chatter(Fang) of So Many Little Feet
2 weeks ago
Thank you for commenting on my deck! I appreciate it. FULL DISCLOSURE: I have not played with this Chatterfang, Squirrel General deck since the banning of Jeweled Lotus and Mana Crypt, both of which were in this build prior to being showcased on tappedout. They were replaced with Llanowar Elves and Fyndhorn Elves. Since these two zero-mana artifacts were replaced, there did not seem to be a need for Urza's Saga anymore, which was replaced by a basic Swamp. Anyway, in the rare instances when one of these artifacts was in my opening hand, a turn one Chatterfang was almost always game over, especially if that artifact was Jeweled Lotus, which allowed me to cast a one-drop in addition to casting our General. Aside from these occurrences, the deck is still lightning fast. There are so many different ways to combo-off and so many ways to find the needed pieces, it is almost a detriment to playing this build: Often times I have focused TOO MUCH on the combo pieces as opposed to engaging in some aristocratic game-play from turn to turn by whittling opponents' life totals down here and there. I admit that once a copy of Old Gnawbone becomes available, then it would easily replace Beledros Witherbloom. I originally had token doublers in this build like Parallel Lives and Doubling Season, but decided to take them out because Chatterfang is a token-doubler, should almost always be on our side of the battlefield, and I could use those cards in other decks. They ain't cheap! Tree rats 4life. Happy brewing!!
StarRushford on No Budget Black Stax Dream Deck
2 weeks ago
Maybe replace Mana Crypt and Jeweled Lotus for them? They are banned now.
May your flight be swift
Andrewsonic007 on Crouching Curie, Hidden Urza
1 month ago
Thought Vessel + Sapphire Medallion ------> Mana Crypt + Jeweled Lotus
hyalopterouslemur on MASSIVE EDH RC ban list …
1 month ago
Mostly it was because these cards were so high in price, and now, as I said, Jeweled Lotus is literally worthless (from $90), so, no, I don't think Pauper will attract this particular madness.
Death threats, man, that's when it stops being fun;]. I always liked what Hideaki Anno did when he received death threats for the ending to Neon Genesis Evangelion by showing them in the sequel? (Really, what is the word for what End of Evangelion is?) So, until (if) the RC ever returns, I trust WotC to be good caretakers of the format. (And have many lawyers in case anyone pulls this kind of stunt again.)
Niko9 on MASSIVE EDH RC ban list …
1 month ago
One thing I was thinking about with all this was, I wonder if a good split in the format would be combat damage vs alternate wincon, rather than necessarily cEDH and commander. Just as much as Mana Crypt and Jeweled Lotus are broken when everyone is swinging Serra Angels High damage commanders like Slicer kind of play weird in cEDH because they generally knock out one or two players and then lose.
hyalopterouslemur on MASSIVE EDH RC ban list …
1 month ago
@Caerwyn: Exactly. I'd argue that free mana (excepting Lotus Petal maybe) is inherently OP. Notice that the Power Nine includes no fewer than six free mana artifacts. Would it make a lot of people who have Mana Crypt or Jeweled Lotus happy? Obviously it didn't. (Jeweled Lotus in particular is literally worthless now, but that's the cost of thinking of Magic cards as an "investment". The same thing happened to comic books in the 90s and nearly destroyed the industry.)
The RC can't make everyone happy. I'm still smarting over the ban on Primeval Titan and later, Sylvan Primordial; I'm eyeing Overlord of the Hauntwoods with skepticism because it so reminds me of PT. (At the time my reasoning was that ramp at six or seven mana isn't bannable when mana accel for free is still in the game; all mana accel is very dependent on mana cost.) But I understand why the ban was done, and you know? These new bans suggest the RC is starting to agree with me, by simply banning Mana Crypt and the like as well.
hyalopterouslemur on MASSIVE EDH RC ban list …
1 month ago
TBH, I usually don't support bans, but in Mana Crypt's case, yeah, it's arguably past time. And I've done basic land, Sol Ring, signet once, but at least I couldn't play anything else with my four mana that turn. Mana Crypt is arguably worse since you now have three mana available on turn 1.
Jeweled Lotus has the same problems as all lotoi: Three mana for nothing is just too much.
Mortlocke says... "This new found RC philosophy which desires to force players into slower games might continue with the sudden banning additional favorites like Mana Drain, Sylvan Library, or Smothering Tithe."
That's actually pretty funny, I actually think of Sylvan Library as somewhat overrated. It's great if you can either double your card draw or consistently scry/reshuffle the rejected cards away, but otherwise, you will have the same two remaining cards, just with a new one on the bottom. Unless you're paying 4 (or 8) life every turn.
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