Jeweled Lotus

Artifact

{T} Sacrifice Jeweled Lotus: Add three mana of any one colour. Spend this mana only to cast your commander.

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Freeform	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Tiny Leaders	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (45)

legendofa on Hybrid rule change

2 weeks ago

From what I've seen online so far, it's a pretty even split between yes and no. At the risk of bringing in another contentious topic, it's honestly pretty similar to what was going around after the Jeweled Lotus bans, with how balanced (and loud) each side is against each other.

"Hybrid should be allowed! It's how every other format works, and they're all in color anyway!"

"Hybrid shouldn't be allowed! Color identity is what makes Commander unique, and it should be kept that way!"

I do believe there's a bunch of hybrid cards in Lorwyn Eclipsed that would influence the decision, but I've seen this discussion going in the background pretty much ever since I started Commander-ing. I'm softly against it--like I said above, I'd welcome the opportunity to brew around some more, but I think there's a strong risk of abuse against the spirit of the rules as an unintended consequence. As long as people don't start hurling more death threats around over a card game.

Personally, I want to see the "banned as commander" list come back, but that seems to be the minority opinion.

legendofa on Commander bans, a year later

1 month ago

In a few days, it will be one year since Jeweled Lotus, Mana Crypt, and Dockside Extortionist were banned in Commander. I'm not here to discuss the immediate results of that, I think I made my feelings clear when it happened. But I do want to put a couple thoughts out there, now that some time has passed.

First, and more specifically, some content creators were theorizing that WotC would immediately unban these cards, or print something at or even above their power and efficiency level. I think it's safe to say that that didn't happen. Have those creators revisited this topic at all? I don't really follow a lot of this sort of content, so I'm interested in hearing their thoughts now.

Second, and more generally, have you and your group adapted, stopped playing, or just ignored the bans? In the spirit of EDH, I'm going to say that all of these are valid responses, as long as it makes the most fun for you and doesn't hurt anyone else's experience. Or did the bans just not affect you and nothing changed for you? Any other thoughts?

fuster on Mana flooding is a good thing?!?!?!

5 months ago

Craeter Sorry for the late reply; I actually took a bit of hiatus from the game. The problem with Druid Class and Ovinomancer is that they're both a bit too slow for the deck. For 3 mana, I'd rather run Beast Within and have extra versatility to remove non-creature permanents.

Lifegift isn't really something I'd benefit from. The lifegain of my commander is just incidental and my deck doesn't revolve around lifegain. This card doesn't actually do anything to help me further advance my gameplan.

I did try playing Conduit of Worlds in the deck when it first came out, but I actually cut the card for Ancient Greenwarden because Reach and double triggers are more useful abilities for me. Conduit is further hampered by the fact that I can't use it to recur instants or sorceries, which is what I find myself recurring most often with this deck.

I think my top priority now is figuring out replacements for Mana Crypt and Jeweled Lotus, since apparently they both got banned while I was taking my hiatus.

legendofa on Beta Brackets Update Today

6 months ago

TheoryCrafter I can see a Bracket 6 that basically acts as the banlist/anything goes area, but some of the stuff on the banlist makes Dockside Extortionist and Jeweled Lotus look like Strike it Rich and Chromatic Star. Even in the rarefied airs of Bracket 5, what would happen?

Usual disclaimer that I don't cEDH at all, but something like Oloro + Lotus + Lurrus (even in the 99--tutors ahoy!), or Temur Tolarian Moxen 'n' Treasures into copy-spammed Tinker and Upheaval with a side of Fastbond, sounds eye-rendingly miserable to my Bracket-3-or-less-dwelling carcass.

DemonDragonJ on The New Commander Brackets Beta

8 months ago

Azdranax, I fully agree that I would prefer that Mana Crypt and Jeweled Lotus remain banned in EDH, since the rules committee banned them for a reason, although I still am hoping for Prophet of Kruphix to be unbanned, at some point, since I feel that the format has evolved sufficiently for the prophet to no longer be a major issue in it.

Mortlocke on The New Commander Brackets Beta

8 months ago

I'm just wondering if there is a forums post already made about the new Commander Brackets Beta that was recently announced? Article and Video links are here in case anyone missed it. I'll just weigh in with my two cents - then when an Admin comes along to let me know that this is a duplicate thread i'll just post my opinion there.

I just have to get this out of my system first and foremost:

The RC hardly ever interacted with the community they supposedly represented. They didn't go to conventions to poll players on their experiences, or actively see what they could do to improve the average experience of the game. At times I viewed their opinions as reductive especially in regards to their banning of Mana Crypt:

"In games going over twelve turns, the accumulated threat of damage from Mana Crypt provides a reasonable counterbalance for its explosive effect, but when you are snowballing to a turn-six to -eight win, it's a meaningless drawback. Source

That statement alone is invalidating a whole portion of the group they supposedly represented - effectively stating that anyone who wants to play High Powered or cEDH decks just shouldn't. Not to mention the inconsistency of that logic - why not also ban Sol Ring, Dark Ritual or anything that leaves the player at a net positive for mana? Commander wouldn't be where it is today if games always had to be well beyond turn 8. At best, the RC banned a card because it was too easily abused, at worst they banned a card due to anecdotal evidence. I get that they wanted to help, but ultimately their execution left a lot to be desired.

I'm grateful for Gavin Verhey and his team starting the format down the right path. Now we as players are starting to have a common language to better understand the intent of our fellow players and craft an experience where we can all have fun. I am very optimistic for Commander's future, and will be participating in the Beta at my local venue.

Also, I think that Mana Crypt and Jeweled Lotus will likely see an unbanning in late April - early May.

What say you all?

GutterbonesMan on This Deck Does Not Believe In Free Will

8 months ago

@sufferfromedh thank you! I haven’t given this deck much attention in the past couple of years as you can see I haven’t updated Jeweled Lotus out, but these are some suggestions to ponder, I am actually considering swapping the commander for Fumulus, the Infestation

Flarhoon13 on Imoti and the Dino Hippo--Explosive Fatties

11 months ago

Having completed my quest to play all 52 of my decks, I decided to try getting a win with all of my decks.

Aug 30

Imoti and the Dino Hippo loss Turn 4. Played no spells after a mulligan. Kurtis created infinite Basalt Monolith 1/1 tokens via Urza, Prince of Kroog, which he played Turn 1 via Jeweled Lotus, and Training Grounds. Only this deck's third or fourth loss. 0-4